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belwin wrote...

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I think it's annoying too. I'm awful at playing as a healer, and since I'm going as a mage first, I'm worried about putting Merrill into my party.
 


yee,
maybe i'll be able to play half the game without a healer like i did once in DA:O.
oh, that was good times. Posted Image

from what i say in the demo, healing is less demanding though. longer cooldowns and the basic heal spell heals alot more. same with the potions.

so i think we'd be good to have merrill and another mage in the party, even if my hawke only has a few things from the creation tree.


Yeah, but it WAS early on in the game. When you reach level 10, it'll be a lot harder I suspect.

I suppose I could make Hawke a healer, then just play as Merrill the whole game.

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Elfman wrote...

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Wales is part of Britain too, you know.


The UK and Britain mean the same thing. By saying I'm British, I'm saying I have ancestors that are Scottish and Welsh, as well as English.

And, it's probably just me, but they sound nothing like Irish crossed with Scottish. They sound........Welsh. Watch Little Britain clips with Daffyd, (think that's his name). You'll learn it pretty quickly.

The UK and Britain aren't quite the same thing. Britain doesn't include Northern Ireland.

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Yeah, but it WAS early on in the game. When you reach level 10, it'll be a lot harder I suspect.

I suppose I could make Hawke a healer, then just play as Merrill the whole game.


yeahh, i might end up doing this.
i always feel more disconnected from the protagonist when i do so though.

maybe i'll even try healing this time around.

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Wales is part of Britain too, you know.


The UK and Britain mean the same thing. By saying I'm British, I'm saying I have ancestors that are Scottish and Welsh, as well as English.

And, it's probably just me, but they sound nothing like Irish crossed with Scottish. They sound........Welsh. Watch Little Britain clips with Daffyd, (think that's his name). You'll learn it pretty quickly.

The UK and Britain aren't quite the same thing. Britain doesn't include Northern Ireland.


Technically, it's called Great Britain and Northern Ireland or something. But I in my insanity I just group together England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Island. Probably because their all in the British Isles. But trust, me that mistake is tiny. I know someone, she's really bad a Geography but otherwise really bright, she's 18 and she thought the UK included France and Iceland. And that there was a time difference between Stockton-on-Tees and Sunderland.

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belwin wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Yeah, but it WAS early on in the game. When you reach level 10, it'll be a lot harder I suspect.

I suppose I could make Hawke a healer, then just play as Merrill the whole game.


yeahh, i might end up doing this.
i always feel more disconnected from the protagonist when i do so though.

maybe i'll even try healing this time around.


I guess it's nice to give something back once in a while.

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Elfman wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Wales is part of Britain too, you know.


The UK and Britain mean the same thing. By saying I'm British, I'm saying I have ancestors that are Scottish and Welsh, as well as English.

And, it's probably just me, but they sound nothing like Irish crossed with Scottish. They sound........Welsh. Watch Little Britain clips with Daffyd, (think that's his name). You'll learn it pretty quickly.

The UK and Britain aren't quite the same thing. Britain doesn't include Northern Ireland.


Technically, it's called Great Britain and Northern Ireland or something. But I in my insanity I just group together England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Island. Probably because their all in the British Isles. But trust, me that mistake is tiny. I know someone, she's really bad a Geography but otherwise really bright, she's 18 and she thought the UK included France and Iceland. And that there was a time difference between Stockton-on-Tees and Sunderland.

Haha. Iceland I can understand, she probably just confused it with Ireland.... but France? Really?

Anyway, the technicalities are thus:

- The UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and contains England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
- Great Britain contains England, Scotland and Wales.
- The British Isles is a geographical rather than political descriptor. It includes England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.

Modifié par Gill Kaiser, 27 février 2011 - 01:28 .


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Suron wrote...

the fact she looks like an adolescent is goddamn disturbing BioWare.

Sorry but I can't be happy about some chick, "made up race" or not, that looks like a pre-teen girl.  I dont' get off on children.

and I'm surprised so many seem to be.


And Isabella breasts are too big bla bla. 

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Hmm, when I first saw Merrill's screenshot it was like "OMG-what-is-this-with-her-face-she-looks-like-a-little-something-from-the-Moon!". In that screen with Hawke... well, not so moony. She looks older, and she's not so pale. Nice. Anyway, Merrill is one of the most interesting companions to me, at least for now. Looking forward to meeting her in the game as soon as possible.
And I'm also going to have this mage-kind problem)) 'cause my first char will be a mage, and I want Merrill and Anders both in my party.

Modifié par GreenClover, 27 février 2011 - 01:29 .


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Some people claim one dev said "Good luck trying to spec her as a healer" which suggests she lacks the Creation tree, I can't seem to find this post anywhere however so I'm taking it with a grain of salt, also you can always bring 2 mages in your party, that's what I always do anyway and Heal isn't gonna be very useful this time as it has a 40s cooldown.


Isn't a Keeper supposed to be a healer? 

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Gill Kaiser wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Elfman wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Wales is part of Britain too, you know.


The UK and Britain mean the same thing. By saying I'm British, I'm saying I have ancestors that are Scottish and Welsh, as well as English.

And, it's probably just me, but they sound nothing like Irish crossed with Scottish. They sound........Welsh. Watch Little Britain clips with Daffyd, (think that's his name). You'll learn it pretty quickly.

The UK and Britain aren't quite the same thing. Britain doesn't include Northern Ireland.


Technically, it's called Great Britain and Northern Ireland or something. But I in my insanity I just group together England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Island. Probably because their all in the British Isles. But trust, me that mistake is tiny. I know someone, she's really bad a Geography but otherwise really bright, she's 18 and she thought the UK included France and Iceland. And that there was a time difference between Stockton-on-Tees and Sunderland.

Haha. Iceland I can understand, she probably just confused it with Ireland.... but France? Really?

Anyway, the technicalities are thus:

- The UK is "The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and contains England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
- Great Britain contains England, Scotland and Wales.
- The British Isles is a geographical rather than political descriptor. It includes England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.


Oh I've got so many stories. She thought Wales was its own island, Cornwall was a country, she didn't understand how a map could be put onto a globe, (if you understand what I mean), Africa was a country, not a continent, and all the African countries were in Asia and that Canada existed.

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Gerudan wrote...

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Some people claim one dev said "Good luck trying to spec her as a healer" which suggests she lacks the Creation tree, I can't seem to find this post anywhere however so I'm taking it with a grain of salt, also you can always bring 2 mages in your party, that's what I always do anyway and Heal isn't gonna be very useful this time as it has a 40s cooldown.


Isn't a Keeper supposed to be a healer? 


Marethari supposedly knows lots of healing magic so I don't understand why she didn't teach Merrill that. Seems bad Keepering if you ask me.

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Okay, armed with massive amounts of free time and patience I removed Merrill from the early concept art just using my mouse and photoshop's pen tool :), I'm crazy I know, but I like the final result :P

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Most horrible concept art...ever.

The uglyness factors is off hte scale.

Seriously. As the art stlye, face and everything else goes, I don't recall seeing anything more repulsive in a looong while.

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I think this concept art is better than the one provided on the site for Merrill. Maybe it's even the one they talked about being "too sexy"?

Modifié par ankuu, 27 février 2011 - 01:51 .


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Gerudan wrote...
Isn't a Keeper supposed to be a healer? 

I don't remember Velanna having a lot of healing skills in 'Awakening' , but who knows, Merrill may be different. Why a keeper must be a healer, anyway? I think, we just subconsciously associate keepers with healing, because they're supposed to be close to nature and so on, and healing spells in DAO were one of the most "natural" things mages cold have.

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On to Merrill again, there was something little written about her in some recent preview/review that if you are a mage with blood mage specialization that it gives a fair amount of friendship points with her or something. Anyone knows something about this ?

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Gerudan wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

Some people claim one dev said "Good luck trying to spec her as a healer" which suggests she lacks the Creation tree, I can't seem to find this post anywhere however so I'm taking it with a grain of salt, also you can always bring 2 mages in your party, that's what I always do anyway and Heal isn't gonna be very useful this time as it has a 40s cooldown.


Isn't a Keeper supposed to be a healer? 


They're all supposed to know old healing magic, hell even Flemeth doesn't know a cure for the darkspawn taint but Marethari in Origins managed to slow its effects on the Dalish warden considerably till he got to do the joining, if it's true and Creation is taken away from Merrill I want a lore reason for that, otherwise it's an inherently bad decision.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

Okay, armed with massive amounts of free time and patience I removed Merrill from the early concept art just using my mouse and photoshop's pen tool :), I'm crazy I know, but I like the final result :P

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Most horrible concept art...ever.

The uglyness factors is off hte scale.

Seriously. As the art stlye, face and everything else goes, I don't recall seeing anything more repulsive in a looong while.


Woah, really? because I find it incredibly awesome... it exaclty says "I'm a dangerous witch, keep your distance".. and at the same time has some kind of attractiveness to it, at least it's a hundred times better than the stupid placeholder in the official site... take about neglect.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 27 février 2011 - 02:04 .


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Grumpy young man wrote...

On to Merrill again, there was something little written about her in some recent preview/review that if you are a mage with blood mage specialization that it gives a fair amount of friendship points with her or something. Anyone knows something about this ?


Really? in which review? because I never stumbled across one that even mentions Merrill... and trust me I've been keeping an eye out.

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Lotion Soronnar wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

Okay, armed with massive amounts of free time and patience I removed Merrill from the early concept art just using my mouse and photoshop's pen tool :), I'm crazy I know, but I like the final result :P

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Most horrible concept art...ever.
The uglyness factors is off hte scale.
Seriously. As the art stlye, face and everything else goes, I don't recall seeing anything more repulsive in a looong while.

I also don't like it but I wouldn't say she's ugly.

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ViSeirA wrote...

Grumpy young man wrote...

On to Merrill again, there was something little written about her in some recent preview/review that if you are a mage with blood mage specialization that it gives a fair amount of friendship points with her or something. Anyone knows something about this ?


Really? in which review? because I never stumbled across one that even mentions Merrill... and trust me I've been keeping an eye out.


I just vaguely remember that there was written something about it. Don't take my word for it.

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Why a keeper must be a healer, anyway? I think, we just subconsciously associate keepers with healing, because they're supposed to be close to nature and so on, and healing spells in DAO were one of the most "natural" things mages cold have.

I think it's more because healing feels like natural part of "looking after one's tribe" and its survival.

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I believe I brought this up in another thread, but since it was mentioned here I felt the need to chime in. The whole concern of Anders being the only Healer companion (i.e. Wynne) does give pause for concern. As someone here observed, if Merril does not have the ability to become a Healer via respec, and one plans to play thier Mage Hawke as DPS/CC, it adds a massive degree of difficulty in that A) If you want to Romance Merrill it only makes sense that she be in your party regardless, and B) If you want to play the game with a Rogue in your party (which is a *must* in my opnion) you're going to have to sacrifice having a Tank in your party to fit said Rogue plus Merrill and Anders.

Now, with all the spells flying around, and your Rogue either Plinking away with a ranged weapon or going all Stabbity Stab I'm sure a party of this sort could hold it's own; however, without a Tank, controling Agro would be a nightmare and your healer would be working overtime. (Sigh) I hope Merrill being some kind of healer is not completely off the table...
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I don't see anything keeping Merrill from the creation tree honestly. I mean I mostly say this due to the fact that Anders has access to the elemental tree, which I presumed was Bethany's.

I feel like a lot of the trees will just be available to the player and party, but in addition they'll all have their own unique tree's as well.

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Which is why I'm gonna be holding aggro with my 2 Handed warrior and Varric... Taunt + Bravery and its upgrades are gonna be a must for me, I don't like Aveline... and also I'm gonna give Varric Goad, which is a good aggro management talent for rogues, I'm most likely going to romance Merrill in my first run so she's in the party, the 4th party member is gonna be a rotation between Bethany/Isabela and Anders... mostly Bethany though, because I want to see her interactions with Hawke and the others.

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I know this is an older topic, but anyone else besides myself interested in seeing what Merrill's "home base" will be? I'm just kind of interested in what the place will be like and what kind of interactions we'll have.