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[Zubie]

Raraptor wrote...

Wait guys, I'm getting skeptical now. Take a good look at the pictures, I actually think they are not real. Why does Merrill's arm looks so strange in the pictures? Because it's supposed to be around the male Hawke's neck instead of the female, so that's why it looks so off? Also when they are lying in bed, it should actually be around the male's chest/shoulder and not be like shown here? .... I think I'll just cry now.

Yep, that was my first thought when I saw the image.

[Twofold Black]

Joint crumpling is making Merrill's arm look weird in e.g. the kiss screenshot, but that's a weight map issue. Her arm is not positioned correctly to go around the shoulders of the much larger male Hawke model.

[RVonE]

KateKane wrote...

Raraptor wrote...

Wait guys, I'm getting skeptical now. Take a good look at the pictures, I actually think they are not real. Why does Merrill's arm looks so strange in the pictures? Because it's supposed to be around the male Hawke's neck instead of the female, so that's why it looks so off? Also when they are lying in bed, it should actually be around the male's chest/shoulder and not be like shown here? .... I think I'll just cry now.

I agree. It doesn't look right. It may well be modded.

OOORRRR... it's just what we've come to expect from Dragon Age: the poses and animations aren't always flawless. Also, remember that this comes from an earlier build of the game.

[robmokron]

I'm just gonna be pissed if I start a femhawke instead of male and end up not Mac-ing her because it's FAKE

[tmp7704]

Xilizhra wrote...

Simply put, male and female Hawkes have different stories written about them. Therefore, the characters are themselves slightly different in each. Hawke isn't changing something predefined, but is simply a participant in a story that differs from that of the other Hawke.

That isn't quite what i'm referring to, though. Even taking each playthrough separately, in each case you get effectively a story where the protagonist just so happens to, purely by accident, wind up grouped with two homosexual characters of his/her own gender. If the PC happens to be homosexual himself/herself the odds of that are somewhere between 0.3-0.0008% depending what statistics you follow. This... just isn't very good odds. (and it drops even lower when we include two characters of the opposite gender who just as randomly happen to be heterosexual. And let's not get into odds of Hawke's particular appearance/personality just happening to be right up the alley of all these people, even though they're wildly different from one another)

And without acting coy we do know this unlikely outcome happens only because of the PC, who is basically shaping the world and the preferences of these he/she meets to fit his/her own persona by his/her mere presence.

Modifié par tmp7704, 02 mars 2011 - 02:15 .

[draken-heart]

MasterScribe wrote...

MasterScribe wrote...

draken-heart wrote...

 i dont know if i want her to be bisexual for some reason.

I agree.

quoting myself as well, sorry. draken-heart, didn't you say that Merrill is straight if Hawke is male and lesbian if Hawke is female?

what i said when you quoted me, that is my personal opinion, what i said earlier is just skeptical logic on my part

just by what i saw, thats speculation, i dont want to be bi, but wouldn't mind if she is by my wacko logic

Modifié par draken-heart, 02 mars 2011 - 02:15 .

[Gerudan]

KateKane wrote...

Edit: Although I suppose it's possible that the scene's animations are the same regardless of the player's sex, and Merrill's animation's don't change to compensate for FemHawke's reduced body mass.

DA2 isn't a movie. Some of the sequences probably won't look that great and the thing with the arm is a little glitch, that nearly allways happens, when arms in games are bend in such an angle.

We will soon learn, that these pics are legit.

[Xilizhra]

Well, Isabela is definitely canonically bisexual, so that might alter the ratio some. And since homosexuality seems to be looked upon with less disfavor in Thedas than on Earth, it might be more common; this is, after all, a world with horned giantlike things using cannons to attack a mage-empowered empire, but for some reason two homosexuals in a party will strike some people as weird.

[tmp7704]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

My reaction.

Wouldn't this one fit better?

[Raraptor]

Excuse my simplicity, but I think it should be like this.




That's why her arm looks so strange, because it's supposed to be on maleHawke's shoulder...

Modifié par Raraptor, 02 mars 2011 - 02:22 .

[tmp7704]

MasterScribe wrote...

but Merrill is female...

surely the medic is thin enough to pass for an elf, though

[Ryzaki]

Raraptor wrote...

Excuse my simplicity, but I think it should be like this.




That's why her arm looks so strange, because it's supposed to be on maleHawke's shoulder...

But then Merrill would be kissing M!Hawke's beard would she not? 

[mesmerizedish]

Ryzaki wrote...

Raraptor wrote...

Excuse my simplicity, but I think it should be like this.




That's why her arm looks so strange, because it's supposed to be on maleHawke's shoulder...

But then Merrill would be kissing M!Hawke's beard would she not? 

In fairness... his beard is very kissable.

[Gavinthelocust]

Ryzaki wrote...

Raraptor wrote...

Excuse my simplicity, but I think it should be like this.




That's why her arm looks so strange, because it's supposed to be on maleHawke's shoulder...

But then Merrill would be kissing M!Hawke's beard would she not? 

Nice man, nice.

[ENolan]

Ryzaki wrote...

Raraptor wrote...

Excuse my simplicity, but I think it should be like this.




That's why her arm looks so strange, because it's supposed to be on maleHawke's shoulder...

But then Merrill would be kissing M!Hawke's beard would she not? 

Ryzaki... When you kiss "M!Hawke," you always kiss the beard. Even if the guy doesn't have a beard, you kiss the face stubble he can't get rid of.

To be serious, no I don't think she would. But then again, who's to say what Merrill like besides the girl (and her writers) themselves? Besides the successful Male Hawke...

[Ryzaki]

I don't know. The lips meet a little too nicely for it to be simply swapping F!Hawke for M!Hawke.
And my Hawke's going to be clean shaven so she'll probably be kissing his chin. 

...Which is gonna be odd. 

Modifié par Ryzaki, 02 mars 2011 - 02:35 .

[NotTale]

I think it looks strange because one could assume a still shot is of minimal action. For all we know the arms are changing between positions, it may not yet be at rest.

Then again, it doesn't look that awkward to me compared to half the things I see in these games.

Modifié par NotTale, 02 mars 2011 - 02:38 .

[ENolan]

Ryzaki wrote...

I don't know. The lips meet a little too nicely for it to be simply swapping F!Hawke for M!Hawke.
And my Hawke's going to be clean shaven so she'll probably be kissing his chin. 

...Which is gonna be odd. 

From beard-deplacement to chin-hating, what has Male Hawke done to you?

And what if it was Captain Qwark's or Jay Leno's chin that Hawke was sporting?

[Blacklash93]

Making a photoshop like that would require at least two seperate playthroughs and taking shots from two different kiss animations and then matching them up (pretty well, too). Do stuff like that for 5 or 6 shots and that's a lot of work and time spent for a little joke.

Still, I'd advise to remain skeptical.

And I don't think that the height thing is really an issue. Photoshop could easily make Femhawke look taller at that angle.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 02 mars 2011 - 02:47 .

[Ryzaki]

The Director wrote...

Ryzaki wrote...

I don't know. The lips meet a little too nicely for it to be simply swapping F!Hawke for M!Hawke.
And my Hawke's going to be clean shaven so she'll probably be kissing his chin. 

...Which is gonna be odd. 

From beard-deplacement to chin-hating, what has Male Hawke done to you?

And what if it was Captain Qwark's or Jay Leno's chin that Hawke was sporting?

He's ugly is what default Hawke has done to me. 

Which is a shame because CGI Hawke is hot. In game tough looks...bleh. 

I'd lol and tell Merrill to kiss it some more.