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I never got this banter... do you have to flirt with Anders to get it?

I think so.  He ninja-flirted with me in Act 1, before I really knew which romance to pursue.  Then, I was ninja-ed by Isabella in Act, thank god she doesn't mind keeping it casual.  It was just funny how jealous he sounded.

On a side note, his armor changed to black.  Hoping the Merrill romance isn't so bugged that it registers Anders as a romance instead.  i'll be so friggen pissed.

Btw, has anyone else had Isabella invite both Hawke and Merrill to travel with her on her ship once their adventures in Kirkwall were over?  Thought that was pretty cute.  Don't know how Merrill will like the open sea, though.

When does Isabela invite you to sail with her?

Damn, I missed out on a lot of dialogue it seems. Maybe it was form act 3, she left me and took the relic.:unsure:

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I think Anders armor changes to black after his personal quest is done. That or max out his friendship/rivalry. I didnt romance him my first run, and I got it too.

It definately changes after you do the last of his quests.

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Shavon wrote...

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I never got this banter... do you have to flirt with Anders to get it?

I think so.  He ninja-flirted with me in Act 1, before I really knew which romance to pursue.  Then, I was ninja-ed by Isabella in Act, thank god she doesn't mind keeping it casual.  It was just funny how jealous he sounded.

On a side note, his armor changed to black.  Hoping the Merrill romance isn't so bugged that it registers Anders as a romance instead.  i'll be so friggen pissed.

Btw, has anyone else had Isabella invite both Hawke and Merrill to travel with her on her ship once their adventures in Kirkwall were over?  Thought that was pretty cute.  Don't know how Merrill will like the open sea, though.

Happened to me too, though the invite was just for me I had to say "I can't just leave Merrill" before she was included.

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I think Anders armor changes to black after his personal quest is done. That or max out his friendship/rivalry. I didnt romance him my first run, and I got it too.

*sigh of relief*

:P

Still have absolutely no idea what her personal quest with the Eluvian is about.  Wish there would be a patch, or something....

@ Samson.  That's right! And Isabella talks about how you have to sail right, and be on the deck.  Well, that would be an interesting fate, Hawke, Izzie and Merrill together out on the open sea.

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Essono wrote...

Shavon wrote...

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I never got this banter... do you have to flirt with Anders to get it?

I think so.  He ninja-flirted with me in Act 1, before I really knew which romance to pursue.  Then, I was ninja-ed by Isabella in Act, thank god she doesn't mind keeping it casual.  It was just funny how jealous he sounded.

On a side note, his armor changed to black.  Hoping the Merrill romance isn't so bugged that it registers Anders as a romance instead.  i'll be so friggen pissed.

Btw, has anyone else had Isabella invite both Hawke and Merrill to travel with her on her ship once their adventures in Kirkwall were over?  Thought that was pretty cute.  Don't know how Merrill will like the open sea, though.

Happened to me too, though the invite was just for me I had to say "I can't just leave Merrill" before she was included.

How do I get this conversation?

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Essono wrote...

Shavon wrote...

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I never got this banter... do you have to flirt with Anders to get it?

I think so.  He ninja-flirted with me in Act 1, before I really knew which romance to pursue.  Then, I was ninja-ed by Isabella in Act, thank god she doesn't mind keeping it casual.  It was just funny how jealous he sounded.

On a side note, his armor changed to black.  Hoping the Merrill romance isn't so bugged that it registers Anders as a romance instead.  i'll be so friggen pissed.

Btw, has anyone else had Isabella invite both Hawke and Merrill to travel with her on her ship once their adventures in Kirkwall were over?  Thought that was pretty cute.  Don't know how Merrill will like the open sea, though.

Happened to me too, though the invite was just for me I had to say "I can't just leave Merrill" before she was included.

How do I get this conversation?


I'd kind of like to know as well.

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To get that conversation: My Hawke was on the friendship path with Isabela, had completed her personal quest in Act 3, and also had hooked up with her in the beginning of Act 2 (which cemented my desire to romance Merrill over her . . . lol)

Not sure if the last one is a requirement, but I'm pretty sure dueling the Arishok on her behalf, maxing out her friendship, will open up that convo during her questioning beliefs quest.

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Isabella annoyed me at first but that was honestly my first impression. The more I hear about her the nicer she sounds. Heck she's even supportive of you if you romance Merrill. What's not to like about Isabella? She seems like a good friend.

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How do I get this conversation?


I think that's Isabela's full-friendship conversation.

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I like lecturing people about how bad blood magic is...while playing a blood mage.

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When does Isabela invite you to sail with her?

Damn, I missed out on a lot of dialogue it seems. Maybe it was form act 3, she left me and took the relic.:unsure:


Indeed. Isabela's Act 3 quest can net her a boat.

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I like that there seems to be a lot of dialog I haven't yet heard.

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Mary Kirby wrote...

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How do I get this conversation?


I think that's Isabela's full-friendship conversation.

Ah, thanks. I was only a few points off from getting her to come back with the relic. Sounds like she has some great dialogue in act 3.

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Part of the reason that makes the DA games so replayable.

Next game, will probably go for the Merrill rivalry romance. Hopefully, is't not like turning Dawn Star bad. That was terrible. I can't imagine trying to harden Merrill >_<

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Merrill is a so nice and interesting character... so naive, smart and resolute at the same time. i think the writers did a very good job with her, props to them!

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Shavon wrote...

Part of the reason that makes the DA games so replayable.

Next game, will probably go for the Merrill rivalry romance. Hopefully, is't not like turning Dawn Star bad. That was terrible. I can't imagine trying to harden Merrill >_<

It's more of a you going "You do realize that this is a stupid idea right?....Right?....I don't think she gets it"
Then Grrarrrarrr!.....Sorry.....it's okay....sexy time.

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Merrill is a so nice and interesting character... so naive, smart and resolute at the same time. i think the writers did a very good job with her, props to them!

Yes I just wish they'd fix that damned conversation bug in act 3!

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MasterSamson88 wrote...

I like that there seems to be a lot of dialog I haven't yet heard.

I think it's because I'm not used to replaying games but I've been pleasantly surprised at how different lines tend to get difference responses from NPCs. I'm also more comfortable with using the various dialogue options. My first play through was diplomatic, and now I'm tending to charming/humorous.

I've intermittently used the aggressive response and figure I'll use it if I do an archer Hawke but...

I think years of BioWare games has conditioned me to avoid the aggressive option. Renegade, dark side, closed fist - I know the DA II system is different but I still always hesitate and tend to avoid the red fist.

Though the times I've used it, I've liked the result.

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Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Zilod wrote...

Merrill is a so nice and interesting character... so naive, smart and resolute at the same time. i think the writers did a very good job with her, props to them!

Yes I just wish they'd fix that damned conversation bug in act 3!

And the import.

I started a new run today, with a Origins import this time. Hoping it wont get corrupted. 

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The only imports that seem to have trouble are witch hunt imports. Lucky me I guess, that I never even bought that expansion.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

MasterSamson88 wrote...

I like that there seems to be a lot of dialog I haven't yet heard.

I think it's because I'm not used to replaying games but I've been pleasantly surprised at how different lines tend to get difference responses from NPCs. I'm also more comfortable with using the various dialogue options. My first play through was diplomatic, and now I'm tending to charming/humorous.

I've intermittently used the aggressive response and figure I'll use it if I do an archer Hawke but...

I think years of BioWare games has conditioned me to avoid the aggressive option. Renegade, dark side, closed fist - I know the DA II system is different but I still always hesitate and tend to avoid the red fist.

Though the times I've used it, I've liked the result.

This so much. I keep thinking of renegade or something. Although in my current run, Im liking the red hammer options.

I also love how Hawke's personality changes depending on what responses you mostly pick. 

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Maria Caliban wrote...

MasterSamson88 wrote...

I like that there seems to be a lot of dialog I haven't yet heard.

I think it's because I'm not used to replaying games but I've been pleasantly surprised at how different lines tend to get difference responses from NPCs. I'm also more comfortable with using the various dialogue options. My first play through was diplomatic, and now I'm tending to charming/humorous.

I've intermittently used the aggressive response and figure I'll use it if I do an archer Hawke but...

I think years of BioWare games has conditioned me to avoid the aggressive option. Renegade, dark side, closed fist - I know the DA II system is different but I still always hesitate and tend to avoid the red fist.

Though the times I've used it, I've liked the result.


I was surprised with the options I chose. I mean from past experience with conversation wheels in Mass Effect I always choose the Paragon routes but in Dragon Age their set up in a bit of a less rigid way, where they're not really routes so much as they are just tones. And so in my first run I found myself taking a very humorous/charming path through the game. Mixed in with some diplomatic positions. I used the red fist a few times but only in pretty aggressive situations. 

The Qunari is a great example actually. When I met the Arishok in the Viscount Keep I used a humorous response when he first addresses me and my Hawke said "I see a man who's ready to start a war on principle." Which I found really fitting.

Then when the Arishok asked me what I was going to do about it I did a rare move for myself and choose the closed fist and my Hawke said "There's only one way to end this." Which I also found to be really great. Because the Arishok had gone way too far and it was past negotiation now.

I don't know, I just really liked the new dialog system. 

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Maria Caliban wrote...
I think years of BioWare games has conditioned me to avoid the aggressive option. Renegade, dark side, closed fist - I know the DA II system is different but I still always hesitate and tend to avoid the red fist.

Though the times I've used it, I've liked the result.


so true...  not to say the lower right corner is the renegade one :P

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MasterSamson88 wrote...

The only imports that seem to have trouble are witch hunt imports. Lucky me I guess, that I never even bought that expansion.

I am importing from Origins, so hopefully it will work out. Id rather they fixed the Merrill bugs more then anything though. I am reluctant to do this run, because I know I'll come across her bug again. 

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MasterSamson88 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

MasterSamson88 wrote...

I like that there seems to be a lot of dialog I haven't yet heard.

I think it's because I'm not used to replaying games but I've been pleasantly surprised at how different lines tend to get difference responses from NPCs. I'm also more comfortable with using the various dialogue options. My first play through was diplomatic, and now I'm tending to charming/humorous.

I've intermittently used the aggressive response and figure I'll use it if I do an archer Hawke but...

I think years of BioWare games has conditioned me to avoid the aggressive option. Renegade, dark side, closed fist - I know the DA II system is different but I still always hesitate and tend to avoid the red fist.

Though the times I've used it, I've liked the result.


I was surprised with the options I chose. I mean from past experience with conversation wheels in Mass Effect I always choose the Paragon routes but in Dragon Age their set up in a bit of a less rigid way, where they're not really routes so much as they are just tones. And so in my first run I found myself taking a very humorous/charming path through the game. Mixed in with some diplomatic positions. I used the red fist a few times but only in pretty aggressive situations. 

The Qunari is a great example actually. When I met the Arishok in the Viscount Keep I used a humorous response when he first addresses me and my Hawke said "I see a man who's ready to start a war on principle." Which I found really fitting.

Then when the Arishok asked me what I was going to do about it I did a rare move for myself and choose the closed fist and my Hawke said "There's only one way to end this." Which I also found to be really great. Because the Arishok had gone way too far and it was past negotiation now.

I don't know, I just really liked the new dialog system. 

Heh, I picked the same. The Arishok respected me though, and we had a 1v1 battle to death.

He was a real pain in the ass to beat.