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#8701
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einherjar81 wrote...

Whacka wrote...

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Maybe it is a bug but - Merrill is a bit... crazy right?

Merrill "Oh, I would love to see the Fade, you will bring me wont you?"
Hawke "Alright, you can come"
Merrill "Happy happy joy joy"

Merrill rivalry +15.

Same here. I took Varric, Aveline and Merrill with me.

Only difference here is that I got +10 rivalry... >_>


I'm pretty sure the rivalry is from telling Marethari that you'll make the boy tranquil.

Never said that to her. :?

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Whacka wrote...

einherjar81 wrote...

Whacka wrote...

ashwind wrote...

Maybe it is a bug but - Merrill is a bit... crazy right?

Merrill "Oh, I would love to see the Fade, you will bring me wont you?"
Hawke "Alright, you can come"
Merrill "Happy happy joy joy"

Merrill rivalry +15.

Same here. I took Varric, Aveline and Merrill with me.

Only difference here is that I got +10 rivalry... >_>


I'm pretty sure the rivalry is from telling Marethari that you'll make the boy tranquil.

Never said that to her. :?


It has something to do with Anders and Merrill in the fade. It's a bug I believe.

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 actually night terrors rivalry with merril is based off of weather  you say "i understand" when marethari says that fanyriel might need to be made tranquil.

first points atleast

Link: http://dragonage.wik...i/Night_Terrors

Modifié par draken-heart, 19 mars 2011 - 05:14 .


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Mary Kirby wrote...

MasterSamson88 wrote...

Doesn't she generally give it up either way, when her companion quest is complete and Marethari is dead?


No, she keeps it if you're on her friendship path. It's just confusing at the moment because of the bug. (Which I've been promised should be fixed in the patch.) If you're a rival, she smashes the mirror. If you're a friend, she keeps working on the mirror and remains a blood mage.


please dear mary *-* be quick and lethal

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MasterSamson88 wrote...

It has something to do with Anders and Merrill in the fade. It's a bug I believe.


Im actualy quite often confused by the rival/friendship points we get, especialy often by the amount of points for a certain action in comparison to another. Guess its kinda hard to tell if it really is a bug or we have not quite understand  a certain part of that character which results in those points.

Modifié par Captain Iglo, 19 mars 2011 - 05:40 .


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Completely off-topic, but...

Captain Iglo, your avatar made me lol. :lol:

Anyway, I still have to send out my scouting party to search for that info about an update fixing these Merrill quest bugs.
Is there any real confirmation about it?

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Whacka wrote...

Completely off-topic, but...

Captain Iglo, your avatar made me lol. :lol:

Anyway, I still have to send out my scouting party to search for that info about an update fixing these Merrill quest bugs.
Is there any real confirmation about it?

They're supposed to fix it in a patch.
Which will probably be out in the next few weeks.

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Well Mary Kirby I think kinda hinted at that theyre working on it.
But I think its not a matter of a few clicks and fixed.

Modifié par Captain Iglo, 19 mars 2011 - 06:01 .


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I imagine we won't see a patch for months. They have other things to fix, and they also have to test the patch to make sure it doesn't mess anything else up.

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Captain Iglo wrote...

Well Mary Kirby I think kinda hinted at that theyre working on it.
But I think its not a matter of a few clicks and fixed.

Well there are a few other bugs that they have to fix.
A couple other quests that don't trigger properly.
But I think that the patch should be out by mid April at the latest.

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Captain Iglo wrote...

Well Mary Kirby I think kinda hinted at that theyre working on it.
But I think its not a matter of a few clicks and fixed.

....You my good fellow....have an awesome avatar.
*tips hat*

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I just wanna say that, no matter what, if you have a full friendship or full rival, and have done all personal quests, and have given all gifts, that regardless of the side you choose at the end of the game, all characters will stay with you. The only exception to this is Sebastion. He leaves no matter what you've done if you don't kill Anders. I saw some posts of people talking about it a few pages pack. Just thought I'd let them know.

Edit: It's also not possible to keep Anders around, and at the same time, side with Templars. That's a given though.

Modifié par Zeenof, 19 mars 2011 - 07:16 .


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Zeenof wrote...

I just wanna say that, no matter what, if you have a full friendship or full rival, and have done all personal quests, and have given all gifts, that regardless of the side you choose at the end of the game, all characters will stay with you. The only exception to this is Sebastion. He leaves no matter what you've done if you don't kill Anders. I saw some posts of people talking about it a few pages pack. Just thought I'd let them know.


So... Hawke is actually Shepard?

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Machines Are Us wrote...

Zeenof wrote...

I just wanna say that, no matter what, if you have a full friendship or full rival, and have done all personal quests, and have given all gifts, that regardless of the side you choose at the end of the game, all characters will stay with you. The only exception to this is Sebastion. He leaves no matter what you've done if you don't kill Anders. I saw some posts of people talking about it a few pages pack. Just thought I'd let them know.


So... Hawke is actually Shepard?


Shhhh. You're not suppose to find that out until they merge the series together after Dragon Age 3 and Mass Effect 3.

Edit: Typos.

Edit: Also, the whole getting rivalry with Merrill when going into the Fade for the Night Terror's quest is definitely from agreeing to kill the boy if need be. If you say you can't do that because that's his biggest frear or what not, you'll, instead, gain points with Merrill. I tested it many times when I did it on my first playthrough because I wanna say I'd kill him because I was as evil as possible, but didn't want her to disaprove because I was romancing her.

Modifié par Zeenof, 19 mars 2011 - 09:07 .


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Zeenof wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

Zeenof wrote...

I just wanna say that, no matter what, if you have a full friendship or full rival, and have done all personal quests, and have given all gifts, that regardless of the side you choose at the end of the game, all characters will stay with you. The only exception to this is Sebastion. He leaves no matter what you've done if you don't kill Anders. I saw some posts of people talking about it a few pages pack. Just thought I'd let them know.


So... Hawke is actually Shepard?


Shhhh. You're not suppose to find that out until they merge the series together after Dragon Age 3 and Mass Effect 3.

Edit: Typos.

Edit: Also, the whole getting rivalry with Merrill when going into the Fade for the Night Terror's quest is definitely from agreeing to kill the boy if need be. If you say you can't do that because that's his biggest frear or what not, you'll, instead, gain points with Merrill. I tested it many times when I did it on my first playthrough because I wanna say I'd kill him because I was as evil as possible, but didn't want her to disaprove because I was romancing her.

*whispers* no no that will happen in not announced yet Dragon Effect 4,5 :devil::bandit::devil:

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Marcin R wrote...

Zeenof wrote...

Machines Are Us wrote...

Zeenof wrote...

I just wanna say that, no matter what, if you have a full friendship or full rival, and have done all personal quests, and have given all gifts, that regardless of the side you choose at the end of the game, all characters will stay with you. The only exception to this is Sebastion. He leaves no matter what you've done if you don't kill Anders. I saw some posts of people talking about it a few pages pack. Just thought I'd let them know.


So... Hawke is actually Shepard?


Shhhh. You're not suppose to find that out until they merge the series together after Dragon Age 3 and Mass Effect 3.

Edit: Typos.

Edit: Also, the whole getting rivalry with Merrill when going into the Fade for the Night Terror's quest is definitely from agreeing to kill the boy if need be. If you say you can't do that because that's his biggest frear or what not, you'll, instead, gain points with Merrill. I tested it many times when I did it on my first playthrough because I wanna say I'd kill him because I was as evil as possible, but didn't want her to disaprove because I was romancing her.

*whispers* no no that will happen in not announced yet Dragon Effect 4,5 :devil::bandit::devil:


Watch where you step. That's really high up intel. If you follow this road, you may be in danger.

#8717
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Okay, I have officially decided that using sarcasm when speaking to Merrill produces the funniest responses in the game because the poor thing just doesn't realize it's sarcasm!

I just had the mirror conversation with her that went something like this:

Hawke: Of all the large mirrors in your house, this is the prettiest.
Merrill: Oh, thank you! I knew you'd understand.

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Zeenof wrote...


Watch where you step. That's really high up intel. If you follow this road, you may be in danger.

lol:P

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I just found out that to have a romance with Merrill you need to flirt with her somehwere in Act 2. I didn't take the flirt option when she was talking about the mirrior in her quest, and i didn't give her the arulin holm, which gave a hell of a rise to her rivalry. Is there anywhere else i can flirt with her to initiate some kind of romance before its too late? Or is it already too late?

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Does anyone have a video that shows the kidnapped scene for Merrill?

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Recently started Act 3 and I got the bug where she's crying by the mirror before the quest that's meant to lead to that scene. I then immediately spoke to her again to do her Act 3 "catch up" conversation scene which is one of the triggers for her Act 3 companion quest. I read about the bug on the internet and apparently it doesn't break anything, it just spoils what happens in the later quest. Well I then went on to do On The Loose, the 2nd trigger for her Act 3 companion quest, but only her quest didn't pop up. I went to her house anyway, just in case it would still work, but it doesn't.

Anyone else have this happen to them? Is the official guide just wrong about what leads to her companion quest?

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Captain Iglo wrote...

Well Mary Kirby I think kinda hinted at that theyre working on it.
But I think its not a matter of a few clicks and fixed.


She didn't really hint so much as tell us outright that she was assured that a fix for Merrill's bugs will most likely be released in the next patch. :lol:

So I think our chances are high for it being fixed in the next patch, especially since it's not a little thing, it's an outright fumble really that needs to get fixed.

*Appreciates Merrill some more*

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Teclo wrote...

Recently started Act 3 and I got the bug where she's crying by the mirror before the quest that's meant to lead to that scene. I then immediately spoke to her again to do her Act 3 "catch up" conversation scene which is one of the triggers for her Act 3 companion quest. I read about the bug on the internet and apparently it doesn't break anything, it just spoils what happens in the later quest. Well I then went on to do On The Loose, the 2nd trigger for her Act 3 companion quest, but only her quest didn't pop up. I went to her house anyway, just in case it would still work, but it doesn't.

Anyone else have this happen to them? Is the official guide just wrong about what leads to her companion quest?


While I'm not completely understaind what you're asking, I would like to say this: The guide is wrong in nearly every aspect. There are very few things that are correct in it. So if you're going by the guide, it might just be wrong.

But if I'm understanding what you're saying, then I'm pretty sure you have to get further into the main plot before her quest will pop up. In both Act 2 and 3 you have to be about half way done with the main plot quests for her companion quests to unlock.

Edit: I have the guide. That's how I know it's wrong in almost every way. Haha.

Modifié par Zeenof, 19 mars 2011 - 11:41 .


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Teclo wrote...

Recently started Act 3 and I got the bug where she's crying by the mirror before the quest that's meant to lead to that scene. I then immediately spoke to her again to do her Act 3 "catch up" conversation scene which is one of the triggers for her Act 3 companion quest. I read about the bug on the internet and apparently it doesn't break anything, it just spoils what happens in the later quest. Well I then went on to do On The Loose, the 2nd trigger for her Act 3 companion quest, but only her quest didn't pop up. I went to her house anyway, just in case it would still work, but it doesn't.

Anyone else have this happen to them? Is the official guide just wrong about what leads to her companion quest?


A bug makes Merrill's companion quest wrap up play at the beginning of Act III. We're nearly assured that a fix is on the way. 

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Zeenof wrote...
 The guide is wrong in nearly every aspect. There are very few things that are correct in it. So if you're going by the guide, it might just be wrong.

Really, the Piggyback one? It has often phrased things in a slightly confusing way, mainly due to how the walkthrough section and more detailed quest section are both written in a bullet-pointed, summary kind of way, but I've never actually encountered it being just plain wrong so far (well, I admit, if some stats for items are off, I wouldn't have noticed).

MasterSamson88 wrote...
A bug makes Merrill's companion quest wrap up play at the beginning of Act III. We're nearly assured that a fix is on the way. 

Well I knew it was a known bug but when I googled it, people seemed to be saying that you can still do her Act 3 companion quest and progress normally, it's just that you see the mourning scene before Merrill actually has anything to mourn. I think the Wiki also says a similar thing. But for me it seems to have just totally killed all Merrill quest progress and therefore made her romance impossible to complete. It's annoying, I don't actually want to carry on playing if this is the case but I don't really want to just stop playing DA2 until they eventually release the patch either...

Edit
Reading more online, it sounds as if some people are lucky and the quest line still continues after the scene occurs out of order, but others find that it breaks the quest line right there. God damn it, and I've a good amount of side quests and a main quest since it went wrong.

Modifié par Teclo, 20 mars 2011 - 12:15 .