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[RamonIAm]

namedforthemoon wrote...

Atakuma wrote...

namedforthemoon wrote...

Stephanie Parker might be a good fit for Merrill's new voice actress. She's a Welsh actress.
[img]http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:PZ-beZJ0y1j-yM:http://www.glamourvanity.com/images/stephanie-parker.jpg&t=1[/img]

She's dead.

What? Seriously? ...I hope you're joking. She's so young!

Edit: Nevermind... She hung herself. Well, there goes that theory. Sorry folks.

This made me laugh, I'm a terrible person

[Loc'n'lol]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

But what if her dialogue IS Sten's?

Think about it, could be highly possible

[JediHealerCosmin]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

But what if her dialogue IS Sten's?

Think about it, could be highly possible

Well someone should talk about cookies tbh. It's a very important subject.

Modifié par JediHealerCosmin, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:01 .

[Tamahome560]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

But what if her dialogue IS Sten's?

Think about it, could be highly possible

No.

(See what I did there?)

Edit: Damn got ninja'd  and with a picture.

Modifié par Tamahome560, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:02 .

[RamonIAm]

Dave of Canada wrote...

Haven't read any other post but...

I'm a big fan of the new elf look because it doesn't look human, like many previewers and a few people on the forums I'd forget I would be playing an elf if I had hair over my character's ears. The ears were roughly the only thing that made them stand out greatly, otherwise you could pass them off as human. Hell, I thought Iona was a human until I talked with her in the study.

I'm happy Elves aren't simply the stereotypical "super attractive human" stereotype. If some people will compare them to children, who cares? We have people claiming people who want to romance dwarves are pedophiles and people who romance aliens in ME are into beastiality.

As far as Merrill goes, I'm assuming she'll be the little sister-esque character, though I might be wrong. Wasn't that interested in an elf romance (race doesn't matter, personality does it for me) though a lot of people wanted it, so IF (pretty big if) she is a romance then I hope it'll stop those types of complaints.

IONA IS NOT HUMAN???

[commanderVal]

Loving this!! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]
One of my two favourite playthroughs was as a dalish female warden and I
loved that game. I actually thought Merril was a character that had a
lot of potential and deserved more screentime than that, but I hated her
look in DA:O- (her lipstick clashed with her skin [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]).
And regarding how elves are skinnier: WOOT WOOT! Now I have a real claim to elvishness!! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie] lol

Ya
know what I'd have loved? If there were *one* character from each
origins making a cameo as a nod to those who played it. I loved that
part in Origins when in Orzammar, we go through the carta's dungeon we
find the sidekick dwarf from the casteless origin, and when we find the
sidekick elf from city elf origin when going through Howe's dungeon.
(Can't remember their names!! [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pouty.png[/smilie]) I guess its a tad bit too late for that now but still... "squee" to you too!! lol

[Yes,
I am a guy but I invoke my right to "squee" every now and then, take
offense if you wish- just don't bore me with details. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/joyful.png[/smilie]]

[_Aine_]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

But what if her dialogue IS Sten's?

Think about it, could be highly possible

Merrill:  "And I thought your Chantry was strange when they weren't dedicating temples to corpses." 
Merrill:  "Either this is a trap, or the defenders of this castle are idiots. I suspect both."

You could be right. 

I loved Sten. I hope you are right!

[BTCentral]

shantisands wrote...

Am on my laptop so don't have photoshop to make it easy, but did a quick job at fotoflexer so you can see her face a bit better.

Same idea, but using Photoshop - modified on the left, original is on the middle, from Origins on the right.
Darkened it and managed to get it to look a little more colourful too - you can see the facial tatoos fairly easily now.



Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

Modifié par BTCentral, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:17 .

[RamonIAm]

The Lyons wrote...

RamonIAm wrote...

The Lyons wrote...

Sheryl Chee wrote...

leggywillow wrote...

You know that heart-squeezy feeling you get when you see a basket of kittens or something?  Yeah, that's exactly what I felt when I saw this little elf.  She is unbelievably precious.  Seriously, I have never seen anything so damn adorable in my life.

Yes! This! You guys have no idea how cute Merrill is. I work here and and I still squee when she says things I haven't heard.

There's a lot of this in the writer pit:

Merrill (in-game): (something unbelievably cute)
Sheryl: GIGGLESQUEE!!!!! SO CUTE!!!
Mary: Hee hee.
Sheryl: She's so adorable I love her and want to hug her omgIcan'tbelievehowadorablesheisCAN-I-NOM-HER-HEAD?!
Mary: ... No.

This isn't meant to be a slight or anything, but how does one who acts like this on the internet get taken seriously as a writer? I have not heard so many instances of "squee" and "nom" from women on the 'net since I was early teens. When someone basically says that they behave in a manner similar to a teenager in real life, my faith in their ability to actually write a good story or character diminishes greatly. I really wish the writing team would exhibit Obsidian's level of professionalism in this case, as it reflects better on a title that I -want- to like as I have enjoyed the developers' past work.

I really hope this is not indicative of a shift in the quality of BioWare's future games. 

I completely disagree with you in every possible level. Good writers need good imaginations, and who have better imagination than kids? So a slightly childish writer is not exactly a bad thing.

Remember, a childish person does not mean an imature person, sometimes people just like coloring the world more to their tastes, even if they aknowledge the reality is not as pretty.

I cannot tell if this is a counter-troll or something, but children also think words such as "poop" and "fart" are on the same level of comedy as George Carlin or [insert your favorite comedian here]. There is certainly a time for childishness and playfulness. It is not in front of the people that you are supposed to be convincing to buy your product, and such openness when it comes to puerile behavior suggests either A) an unhealthy relationship with the consumer or that you are, in actuality, someone who still finds that terminology to be sooo kawaii~ and endearing. I am not damning their ability so much as I am saying that it casts the writer in the same light as teenage girls who still write anime fanfic. I can get loud and silly, but not in front of customers or complete strangers. Showing that you are not a robot/a normal human being is great, but acting like you are far younger than your age is somewhat disturbing when you are describing a product you are currently making. Get what I am saying? 

Also, Ramon, you like me less and less? Are we acquainted or something? I prefer people who act professionally in the public forum just as I prefer to dress my best when going to a formal event. It is supposed to be a courtship of the public, not a slumber party. I hold myself up to the same standards that I hold anyone else, and am not targeting them "unfairly." I am just stating a concern, and if they are truly secure with how they act then it will probably go right past their head anyways. They have probably heard far worse criticism in their time. 

I understand your thinking, and I even agree that you haven't been overly rude about it as some people said, but I still completely disagree with you.

Your belief that the way someone acts on a forum, or anywhere else by the way, has something to do with their capacity to perform their jobs makes no sense to me, I've always been of the mind that as long as the job is done, it doesn't matter how it was done.

Let's say I have two salesman as my employees:
One of them plays video-games at work, joke all the time, and only work 4 hours a day.
The other is always serious, and works 10 hours a day.

If the first one sells more than the second, I would keep the first one, no doubt about that.

What I said about liking you less and less... well, it's just that your way of thinking reminded me of the many people with no talent that tends to overvalue professionalism that I know, I'm not saying you are like that and I'm sorry if I gave you that impression.

Well, hope that is at least a bit clear.

[Seb Hanlon]

Folks, let's take the personal attacks and bickering out of the Merrill thread. Consider yourselves warned.

[Taiyama]

Sheryl Chee wrote...

Yes! This! You guys have no idea how cute Merrill is. I work here and and I still squee when she says things I haven't heard.

There's a lot of this in the writer pit:

Merrill (in-game): (something unbelievably cute)
Sheryl: GIGGLESQUEE!!!!! SO CUTE!!!
Mary: Hee hee.
Sheryl: She's so adorable I love her and want to hug her omgIcan'tbelievehowadorablesheisCAN-I-NOM-HER-HEAD?!
Mary: ... No.

Haha, really? Something tells me this is going to be the second time Bioware manages to make me fall in love with a fictional character. The first being Leliana, obviously.

[the_one_54321]

BTCentral wrote...


Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

No, facially she indeed seems to not have changed much at all. It's hard to say what's so off putting. And she is certainly addorable. Perhaps it's something in the head/body ratio. But she just looks a little odd. Cute odd, but odd. The Kokiri reference on page 1 or 2 was fairly astute.

[The Lesser Evil]

BTCentral wrote...

shantisands wrote...

Am on my laptop so don't have photoshop to make it easy, but did a quick job at fotoflexer so you can see her face a bit better.

Same idea, but using Photoshop - modified on the left, original is on the middle, from Origins on the right.
Darkened it and managed to get it to look a little more colourful too - you can see the facial tatoos fairly easily now.



Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

The only thing that's really changed is that her features are more elven. She's more slender and her facial proportions are slightly different. Other than that, not really that much different indeed.

I'm glad she was changed. Ignore the pointed ears and the facial tattoo on the old Merrill and she's pretty much human in appearance. Same goes for any other Elf in DA:O, I actually thought Iona was just a shorter human before I spoke to her.

I guess Cammen didn't look human, but that's just because his face was... inhuman, in its own special way.

[Shepard Lives]

the_one_54321 wrote...

BTCentral wrote...


Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

No, facially she indeed seems to not have changed much at all. It's hard to say what's so off putting. And she is certainly addorable. Perhaps it's something in the head/body ratio. But she just looks a little odd. Cute odd, but odd. The Kokiri reference on page 1 or 2 was fairly astute.

I'm starting to think it may be her ^.^ face. Maybe she'll look less off when we see her without that pout. Said pout is also probably conditioning our speculation on the character. For all we know, she's the elven version of Sten and she's just making that face to mock the Hawke brothers.

[Snoteye]

BTCentral wrote...

http://f.cl.ly/items...errill-face.png

Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

As somebody who has never seen Merrill before, I think the difference is huge (not that I mind). The lighting makes the comparison unfair, though.

[Kimarous]

BTCentral wrote...



Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

The absence of the quite frankly HIDEOUS makeup is perhaps the biggest and most welcomed change to her design.

Kimarous approves +7

[Minxie]

the_one_54321 wrote...

BTCentral wrote...


Looks pretty good I think - the face is slightly smaller, more rounded, and the tones/colors are different but other than that she hasn't changed all that much really.

No, facially she indeed seems to not have changed much at all. It's hard to say what's so off putting. And she is certainly addorable. Perhaps it's something in the head/body ratio. But she just looks a little odd. Cute odd, but odd. The Kokiri reference on page 1 or 2 was fairly astute.

To me it almost looks like she belongs in a different game, like her design doesn't match the artwork of everything else in DA2. That's probably why she looks odd...

But I hate saying this because we only have these few seconds of her to judge.

[SandyWB]

I'm not overly fond of the new direction they are taking the elves in Dragon Age. One of the things I actually liked about the elves in Origins was that they felt and looked "human", for a lack of better word. The only elf male we've seen so far, Fenris, isn't such a stretch from Origins, but Merrill looks too child-like in my opinion. If one compares her Origins appearance to her new look in DA2 she looks to be in her mid-twenties in Origins and her teens (maybe even early teens) in DA2. I know they wanted to differentiate the races in DA2, but c'mon, if she is a love interest as many suspect, I don't want her to look like a kid. She kind of reminds me of the Lalafell race from Final Fantasy 14 (haven't played the game, just remembered it from a trailer), with the childlike eyes and chubby cheeks.

I hope it's just Merrill in that case, and not all elves, since the concept art for the redesign of the races didn't give me the impression that the elves would change that much.

Just wanted to get that off my chest. It's Bioware's game, and I support the direction they want to take it in, but I can't say that I'm happy with elves going from a mature-looking race to something more alien and child-like. Then again, maybe they envisioned Merrill as being younger and more innocent than I remember her to be.

Modifié par SandyWB, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:42 .

[RamonIAm]

Lotion Soronnar wrote...

Elf.
Female.
Cute.
Add nice personality and it will be JACKPOT.

Just the thing I find attractive in women.
And if she's not romancable, then she will be my "little sister".

This is coming from a guy to whom romances are "nice to have, but unimportant" and who picks companions exclusively according to personality (party balance? What is that?)

I always do that as well ;s, can't help it

[Shepard Lives]

SandyWB wrote...

I'm not overly fond of the new direction they are taking the elves in Dragon Age. One of the things I actually liked about the elves in Origins was that they felt and looked "human", for a lack of better word. The only elf male we've seen so far, Fenris, isn't such a stretch from Origins, but Merrill looks too child-like in my opinion. If one compares her Origins appearance to her new look in DA2 she looks to be in her mid-twenties in Origins and her teens (maybe even early teens) in DA2. I know they wanted to differentiate the races in DA2, but c'mon, if she is a love interest as many suspect, I don't want her to look like a kid. She kind of reminds me of the Lalafell race from Final Fantasy 14 (haven't played the game, just remembered it from a trailer), with the childlike eyes and chubby cheeks.

I hope it's just Merrill in that case, and not all elves, since the concept art for the redesign of the races didn't give me the impression that the elves would change that much.

Just wanted to get that off my chest. It's Bioware's game, and I support the direction they want to take it in, but I can't say that I'm happy with elves going from a mature-looking race to something more alien and child-like. Then again, maybe they envisioned Merrill as being younger and more innocent than I remember her to be.

You want elves to look similar to humans? I'm not sure I understand.

[Rawgrim]

Don`t like her ears. Way too big. Still...looks alot better than WoW elves.

[Eorion_Moonwing]

shepard_lives wrote...



You want elves to look similar to humans? I'm not sure I understand.

+100

I hated DAO elves they were human race with some mutations like slightly longer ears, smaller and thats all! Like pygmy!

Rawgrim wrote...

Don`t like her ears. Way too big. Still...looks alot better than WoW elves.

Sorry but most elven NPC`s ears in DAO were big and they were horrible as they were thick and meaty. DA2 ears are pleasant to look at as they not modified human ears-that-are-longer but a unique, slightly animal by design-natural in my eyes.  

Modifié par Eorion_Moonwing, 11 janvier 2011 - 05:04 .

[marquiseondore]

She reminds me of Winona Ryder...ya know before the shopping lifting incident.

[Saibh]

Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

shepard_lives wrote...

You want elves to look similar to humans? I'm not sure I understand.

+100

I hated DAO elves they were human race with some mutations like slightly longer ears, smaller and thats all! Like pygmy!

I think they did look different--angular and slimmer, and it was pretty standard to their face morphs. But they did look like an angular and slim human.

However, for being an entirely different species, they didn't look different enough. I think that's rather important when it comes to the discrimination theme--"you look like me, but not enough".

[Itkovian]

Rawgrim wrote...

Don`t like her ears. Way too big. Still...looks alot better than WoW elves.

I rather like the new look. The ears are more pronounced, yes, but nothing like the WoW/anime "my eye! my eye! aaaargh!" level.

Itkovian