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She knew what she was doing. The Dalish are also against blood magic but she didnt care, she was so focused on fixing the mirror no matter what. 

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Merrill may be naive about culture outside of the clan, but she isn't stupid. She may be a blood mage, but she's done nothing wrong and hasn't been corrupted(unlike every other blood mage we run into.)

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Too bad you can't have a threesome with Isabella and Merrill like we did with Leliana and Isabella in DAO. Otherwise Merrill was just too naive for me. Y'all can have her. I don't see how some say she's "adorable". Really? Like a child with a handgun. I don't feel safe with her in my party.


Yeah, because she's only a good person if she puts out. Posted Image

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PseudoEthnic wrote...

Merrill may be naive about culture outside of the clan, but she isn't stupid. She may be a blood mage, but she's done nothing wrong and hasn't been corrupted(unlike every other blood mage we run into.)

Actually quite strange how it seems to be that all blood mages but Merrill are crazy buggers Posted Image

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Knight of Dane wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Merrill may be naive about culture outside of the clan, but she isn't stupid. She may be a blood mage, but she's done nothing wrong and hasn't been corrupted(unlike every other blood mage we run into.)

Actually quite strange how it seems to be that all blood mages but Merrill are crazy buggers Posted Image

Gascard Du Puis didn't seem too crazy. I never got to see how crazy he actually was, though, since Varric killed him in the cutscene with him and Quentin.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

Knight of Dane wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Merrill may be naive about culture outside of the clan, but she isn't stupid. She may be a blood mage, but she's done nothing wrong and hasn't been corrupted(unlike every other blood mage we run into.)

Actually quite strange how it seems to be that all blood mages but Merrill are crazy buggers Posted Image

Gascard Du Puis didn't seem too crazy. I never got to see how crazy he actually was, though, since Varric killed him in the cutscene with him and Quentin.

He wanted to learn necromancy too. He was crazy...

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The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.


I sort of have to agree. They're not crazy. They're just douchebags.

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.

Did you turn Fenris over to him?

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MasterSamson88 wrote...

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I'm playing a Femhawke now and romancing Isabela. It's tough, though, because Merrill will be foreveralone.jpg in this version of the DA universe.

She could stay at an alienage somewhere. She can just never return to the Dalish.


I sort of picture her getting a bit more street smart over the years spent with Hawke. So if you don't romance her and she ends up alone like everyone else I kind of picture her wandering Thedas like a bad*ss.

But that's just me. :lol:

For some reason, I keep thinking if Isabela ever got a ship again and needed a crew, Merrill would join.

....
OH GOD-

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Tigerking wrote...

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If you go the rivalry path, will she side with you if you go with the Templars? 

No, it only works if you're friends.


i got her to side with me on the rivalry path with the templars.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.


I sort of have to agree. They're not crazy. They're just douchebags.


Probably why I kinda liked him.

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The character unique specializations are awesome and I love them. The use of a game play mechanic as a storytelling device, specifically characterization, is very subtle and I don't recall any other game doing this. (Feel free to disabuse me of this notion if it's false)

With that in mind, why doesn't Merrill have a healing spell? For some reason, I'd always imagined that Keepers and their Firsts weren't just the advisers and memory of the clan but also took care of healing.

If we were to look at Melathari's 'Keeper' specialization, would it have healing spells?

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Velanna was a Keeper's First also and I don't remember her having any kind of Keeper-healing abilities outside of giving her Spirit Healer or the creation Healing spells outright.

I get the feeling Merrill still had a few decades to go before she would be ready to lead her Clan in any capacity.

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Somebody wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.

Did you turn Fenris over to him?


You bet. I got a very kindly worded letter inviting me to let him know if I was ever visiting Minrathous, saying that he would kindly arrange a tour for me. It was lovely.

I reloaded and kept Fenris though, because it was my first playthrough. Alas.

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Esbatty wrote...

Velanna was a Keeper's First also and I don't remember her having any kind of Keeper-healing abilities outside of giving her Spirit Healer or the creation Healing spells outright.


Of course Velanna didn't have a healing spell in her tree. She was cruel, selfish, and hateful. Why spend the time to learn to help people when you can learn to kill them five different ways?

It's interesting to note that while PC Hawke's specialization takes blood from allies (and even gives you an extra boost for making your allies fall) Merrill's specialization only uses her own blood.

Does this reflect Merrill's own tendency to want no one else to suffer for her?

Or does this say something about human blood mages as opposed to dalish ones?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Of course Velanna didn't have a healing spell in her tree. She was cruel, selfish, and hateful. Why spend the time to learn to help people when you can learn to kill them five different ways?

It's interesting to note that while PC Hawke's specialization takes blood from allies (and even gives you an extra boost for making your allies fall) Merrill's specialization only uses her own blood.

Does this reflect Merrill's own tendency to want no one else to suffer for her?

Or does this say something about human blood mages as opposed to dalish ones?


Velanna also didn't have a tree unique to her. The keeper specialization was the same across all mage characters.

At first, I'd be inclined to say that it was just gameplay balance. But, you might be onto something? It's interesting, and it does make complete sense (either way). I just don't know if it's at the foundation of the spell differences, or if it's something you're applying after-the-fact.

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I was going to bring up that Awakenings didn't have unique specializations for companions but I figured it didn't matter. Even if it did, Velanna wouldn't bother with a healing spell.

I assume there are gameplay considerations as well, but all the specializations reflect the character to some degree.

Aveline's is called "Guardian." It's not just her combat role; it's an important part of who she is. Anders is the only one with mutually exclusive sustainable. One that heals and one that hurts. I'd say that's a mechanical representation of his dual nature.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 mars 2011 - 02:41 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

I was going to bring up that Awakenings didn't have unique specializations for companions but I figured it didn't matter. Even if it did, Velanna wouldn't bother with a healing spell.

I assume there are gameplay considerations as well, but all the specializations reflect the character to some degree.

Aveline's is called "Guardian." It's not just her combat role; it's an important part of who she is.


Yes, absolutely. I'm just saying that I'm not sure which comes first. I don't know who designed Aveline's tree, but did he read Mr. Kristjanson's dossier and tailor the tree to it? Or did he draw up the abilities, which were given names and flavor-text to suit after-the-fact?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

Velanna was a Keeper's First also and I don't remember her having any kind of Keeper-healing abilities outside of giving her Spirit Healer or the creation Healing spells outright.


Of course Velanna didn't have a healing spell in her tree. She was cruel, selfish, and hateful. Why spend the time to learn to help people when you can learn to kill them five different ways?

It's interesting to note that while PC Hawke's specialization takes blood from allies (and even gives you an extra boost for making your allies fall) Merrill's specialization only uses her own blood.

Does this reflect Merrill's own tendency to want no one else to suffer for her?

Or does this say something about human blood mages as opposed to dalish ones?

there IS   a self-healing spell wraith of the elven [its called something like that] then the grabber "arms" power with upgrade-there you go

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.

Did you turn Fenris over to him?


You bet. I got a very kindly worded letter inviting me to let him know if I was ever visiting Minrathous, saying that he would kindly arrange a tour for me. It was lovely.

I reloaded and kept Fenris though, because it was my first playthrough. Alas.

Really?:o

Now I am tempted to do this. Have some wine with Danarius, and tour Tevinter.B)

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Marcin R wrote...

there IS   a self-healing spell wraith of the elven [its called something like that] then the grabber "arms" power with upgrade-there you go


Oh? I guess I need to fully explore her tree.

(That sounds dirtier than I intended.)

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 mars 2011 - 04:43 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

Marcin R wrote...

there IS   a self-healing spell wraith of the elven [its called something like that] then the grabber "arms" power with upgrade-there you go


Oh? I guess I need to fully explore her tree.

(That's sounds dirtier than I intended.)


Wrath of the Elvhen is a mode that damages enemies near her while healing herself. It ticks every four seconds and heals for 1% per tick. I... don't know what the damage coefficient is. And that sounds exactly as dirty as you intended. Don't lie.

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Marethari heals. She used healing magic to keep the Dalish PC alive in DAO when they got sick by the mirror.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The Tevinter magisters aren't crazy! Magister Danarius was extremely gracious. I quite liked him.


I sort of have to agree. They're not crazy. They're just douchebags.


I'd sort of like to see a pro human rights Tevinter at some point in the game. Because at this point it seems the Imperium has been turned into a bad guy dispenser. :lol: