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jlb524 wrote...

thegrimfandango wrote...

Can anyone help me with this? social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/305/index/6755421#6756436
Somehow I managed not to spot this better-suited forum when I posted and I don't think I can move the post.


You are fine as you don't have to have a certain rival level in Act 1 to trigger the rival romance in Act 2.

I was 75% on the friend bar by the end of Act 1 and early into Act 2...I didn't give her the tool and the rival points just flooded in after that.

Yeah, I had the friendship bar almost maxed. When I didnt give her the tool, I got like 140 rivalry points. And everything I did after that got me rivalry with her.

Modifié par Somebody, 25 mars 2011 - 02:28 .


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Captain Uccisore wrote...

Haha, you have a point. And I'm not sure why, but your response made me laugh.

I believe I misused the term. I was struggling to describe my feelings on adult themed fanfiction and that was the first thing to pop into my head. I suppose I agree with Gaider on the subject, at least when it comes to steamier fics. They're just not my cup of tea. Ah well, to each their own.


I'm with Maria as far as how that term is used. I've used "intellectual masturbation" to describe the more arcane styles of jazz. I did not use the term positively :police:

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Oh, I uploaded Varric vid for Malevolence...I think this is the right one?

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Captain Uccisore wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

I'm strongly considering writing a character-driven piece describing the action between Acts and showing how Merrill got used to city life. It'll be the opposite of steamy.


That's the 10% I'm talking about.


:)

I'm glad. I really just want to write about a Tevinter magister, but I feel it'd be self-insertion and I imagine that nobody would want to read it but me. In writing Merrill, I feel an obligation to not only write her properly, but to correct misconceptions about her at the same time. I don't think people realize just how WEIRD Kirkwall is for her. I mean, goodness, at least Morrigan had been to Lothering and such before--this is all new to Merrill, and the only human she'd ever met was Duncan.

So I guess a Merrill story would have a wider audience and be more canon--and really, I always try to stick to canon as much as possible.

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It's difficult for me to respond as I suspect my definition of literary masturbation isn't the same as yours. To me, literary masturbation is when a writer uses self-consciously elegant and stylistic prose in a way that obscures or supersedes content (or often lack of content).

It's something I see in people working for their MFAs while fanfiction tends to be plain* in style.


*middle-class


I would probably use the term the same way: self-satisfactory purple prose. That said, I hate how pedestrian most fanfics are. My work is redolent with random archaisms (the product of reading too many 19th century works in translation), but you'd think that people would recognize that contemporary slang doesn't belong in a fantasy world. That, and it's nice to vary one's prose based on the PoV of the speaker.

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Captain Uccisore wrote...

Haha, you have a point. And I'm not sure why, but your response made me laugh.

I believe I misused the term. I was struggling to describe my feelings on adult themed fanfiction and that was the first thing to pop into my head. I suppose I agree with Gaider on the subject, at least when it comes to steamier fics. They're just not my cup of tea. Ah well, to each their own.


You didn't misuse the term. Everyone seems to use it differently.

Yes, I can appreciate why you're glad that there aren't any stories with Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.


:crying:

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Let's move on and pretend we never read that.

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jlb524 wrote...

Oh, I uploaded Varric vid for Malevolence...I think this is the right one?

No, I was talking about the one when you talk to Varric in the Hanged Man and he expresses his concern about Hawke and Merrill's relationship. Like I said, though, you need to use the console to get to it, it's currently bugged. Here's a thread about it:

http://social.biowar.../index/6753340/1

Thanks for the effort, though.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, I uploaded Varric vid for Malevolence...I think this is the right one?

No, I was talking about the one when you talk to Varric in the Hanged Man and he expresses his concern about Hawke and Merrill's relationship. Like I said, though, you need to use the console to get to it, it's currently bugged. Here's a thread about it:

http://social.biowar.../index/6753340/1

Thanks for the effort, though.

Are we even sure there is one for her?

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There is.

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.

:crying:

...bad?

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 25 mars 2011 - 02:52 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...
You didn't misuse the term. Everyone seems to use it differently.

Yes, I can appreciate why you're glad that there aren't any stories with Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.


:blink::pinched::sick::lol:

That pretty much sums it up. But damn if the delivery of that line wasn't great.

You're funny. I like you.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

There is.

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.

:crying:

...bad?

That simile right there is my reasoning that i am glad that people didn't pump out raunchy fics about her.
lol Merrill is my waifu, desu.

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Malevolence65 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Oh, I uploaded Varric vid for Malevolence...I think this is the right one?

No, I was talking about the one when you talk to Varric in the Hanged Man and he expresses his concern about Hawke and Merrill's relationship. Like I said, though, you need to use the console to get to it, it's currently bugged. Here's a thread about it:

http://social.biowar.../index/6753340/1

Thanks for the effort, though.


Aw, crap...I've never seen that one. 

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Maria Caliban wrote...

LobselVith8 wrote...

I read that Merrill gives 15 rivalry points if you accept responsibility for her in "A New Path."


The problem is that the same action or dialogue can give you rivalry points or friendship points depending on what path you're on. It's possible the person who said this was already on the rivalry path. 


I know what you mean (I always get a negative reaction from Fenris when I give him gifts) but I still get Friendship points with Fenris if I pick certain dialogue options (like telling the slavers that he isn't a slave, or telling him I'd hire the elven woman as a servant instead of a slave) and my apostate Hawke as a hardcore mage supporter who pretty much disagreed with Fenris about virtually everything, so he's well into the Rivalry side when I get Friendship points with him. Interestingly, I read that the same dialogue option (the line about taking responsibility for Merrill) gives 10 Friendship points with Fenris while fighting the Dalish to protect her gives 10 rivalry for him (although he also seems angry when I promise to visit her, so I shouldn't be surprised).

I guess it made me wonder what would be the best option to take - take responsibility or defend Merrill from the Dalish by force. Her dialogue doesn't seem to match the Friendship / Rivalry points if this is true, and I found this similar to dialogue with Morrigan in Origins, where she would say one thing but feel something contrary based on the approval or disapproval it provided.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.

:crying:

...bad?


Well... the Merrill in my dreams is rather feisty. She bites, for example. But that image is... too violently masculine?

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 25 mars 2011 - 03:25 .


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Biting? I like that.

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jlb524 wrote...

Biting? I like that.


;)

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Are they nips or full on bites? I need to know.

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill being pounded like a bent nail.


:crying:



I like the sound of this...^_^

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jlb524 wrote...

Are they nips or full on bites? I need to know.


When I read "nips," I (of course) thought of biting nipples.

Anyway, it depends. She's not beyond full-on bites. She's drawn blood on more than one occasion, though it's been accidental.

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This thread is getting erotic.

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Well, it is frequented by a desire spirit.

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I demand that Maria put her idea into actions Immediately !!!

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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

Are they nips or full on bites? I need to know.


When I read "nips," I (of course) thought of biting nipples.

Anyway, it depends. She's not beyond full-on bites. She's drawn blood on more than one occasion, though it's been accidental.


Haahaaa.

I approve of this.

MassShep93 wrote...

I demand that Maria put her idea into actions Immediately !!!


I'll have to agree.

Modifié par jlb524, 25 mars 2011 - 03:49 .


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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Well, it is frequented by a desire spirit.

Desire demons are sexy.