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[Malevolence65]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...Merrill's making me forget how much I hate elves.

You wouldn't believe what Merrill does to us people who've always liked elves!

I'd read a novel about Hawke and Merrill post-Orsino & Meredith. And I'd put it on The Bookshelf.

I would too.

edit: But I would rather have Hawke be the main character of Dragon Age 3 and have Merrill with him.

Modifié par Malevolence65, 27 mars 2011 - 12:36 .

[flexxdk]

Malevolence65 wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...Merrill's making me forget how much I hate elves.

You wouldn't believe what Merrill does to us people who've always liked elves!

I'd read a novel about Hawke and Merrill post-Orsino & Meredith. And I'd put it on The Bookshelf.

I would too.

I'd read it two times and still not have had enough from it, thus reading it again.

It's an endless loop... of Merrill.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[raziel1980]

Whacka wrote...

Somebody wrote...

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Merrill's making me forget how much I hate elves.

Then slaughter the Dalish clan in Act 3 a few times more. That always reminds me how Merrill is not a typical Elf of this Age.

I imported a playthrough where my Warden killed the Dalish clan with the werewolves. In that DA2 run I killed Merrills clan. 2 less Dalish clans in Thedas. 

Join us, brothers and sister, while we slaughter any Dalish we see.

You should make a group of this.

I'm in this bunch as well...though my reasoning was more for the fact that the werewolves were more useful in the 'siege of denerim' battles than the elves...and because I DESPISED Zathurian...though I did usually just take the middle ground of taking out Zathurian...and saving both the elves n werewolves in that case for the most part.

[mesmerizedish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

She's a character. She's *designed.* Merrill was given a group of traits so she'd seem adorable. They didn't just magically appear.

When the codex tells us that she wanders around Kirkwall and somehow ended up in the Viscount's cupboard, I find it difficult to believe that her adorableness is simply a mask. When the short story has her pondering in her head a spooky award for mountains, I also find it hard to say that's a mask.

I... disagree. But we clearly have different views on what characters are (and probably even what art is).

Okay. And Wonderwall makes me think of Merrill. And it uses acoustic guitars.

Okay. It doesn't me. I hope you didn't think I was trying to argue that acoustic guitars shouldn't make you think of Merrill

Yes, she is.

If we're going to treat skank as a worthwhile term (I'm not inclined to do so, but whatever) Isabela is totally a skank. She's skanktastic. Her skankatude is a healthy 7.6 on the skank-o-meter.

I think the word is inherently a pejorative. Which is why I don't think Isabela is a skank.

A character does not exist outside of our perception of them.

Again, we'll just have to agree to disagree*

I never finished Awakening. All I remember of Anders is his conversation about how robes are useful and that he had a kitty.

His humor in Awakening filled a similar role as Alistair's in Origins. It's one of the reasons he got called "Alistair 2.0."




*I hate the term "agree to disagree." It feels really patronizing. I hope you don't think that. We just have some fundamentally disparate ideas.

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 27 mars 2011 - 12:38 .

[flexxdk]

raziel1980 wrote...
 
*pyra-quote snip*

I'm in this bunch as well...though my reasoning was more for the fact that the werewolves were more useful in the 'siege of denerim' battles than the elves...and because I DESPISED Zathurian...though I did usually just take the middle ground of taking out Zathurian...and saving both the elves n werewolves in that case for the most part.

I only chose the third option, because elves would be a bit more useful than the werewolves.

Mages and Elves for fighting over distance, dwarves and humans for close combat.

Perfecto.

If the werewolves were distance fighters, however... Things would've gone different.

And now that there'll be Dalish elves in DAL too... Let the onslaught continue! 


I also don't care if she's acting or not. She's adorable, and that's what matters. So stop arguing and eat these cookies I just made! EAT!

Modifié par Whacka, 27 mars 2011 - 12:40 .

[Malevolence65]

Merrill is most definitely not faking or acting. She doesn't purposefully act like she does, she's just that way.

[mesmerizedish]

Malevolence65 wrote...

Merrill is most definitely not faking or acting. She doesn't purposefully act like she does, she's just that way.

I know, that was never what I was saying, only that "OMZ cute!" stems from her situation.

[Malevolence65]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I know, that was never what I was saying, only that "OMZ cute!" stems from her situation.

I don't understand, what do you mean by that?

[DoNotIngest]

Whacka wrote...
I'd read it two times and still not have had enough from it, thus reading it again.

It's an endless loop... of Merrill.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I could only be a hypocrite if I didn't tell you... It's a GREAT thing


"I would too.

edit: But I would rather have Hawke be the main character of Dragon Age 3 and have Merrill with him."

I don't have to comment. But I'd prefer DA3 Hawke + Merrill and the novel.


Seems there are quite a few Leliana fans here too. Makes me think that to most here, the dream group would be Warden, Hawke, Leliana and Merrill. Correcto?

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 27 mars 2011 - 12:45 .

[mesmerizedish]

Malevolence65 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I know, that was never what I was saying, only that "OMZ cute!" stems from her situation.

I don't understand, what do you mean by that?

Everything we think is so adorable is a result of her unfamiliarity with human society, the urban environment, etc. I'll bet that if we look at her among her clan from a Dalish perspective, much of the "cute" wouuld be gone, because suddenly she doesn't seem unwitting or naive, she doesn't need a ball of twine to avoid getting lost, and she does understand all the dirty jokes. If Dalish elves make dirty jokes. I don't know.

[Maria Caliban]

Malevolence65 wrote...

Merrill is most definitely not faking or acting. She doesn't purposefully act like she does, she's just that way.

There are a number of times when she uses her adorableness as a mask.

Aveline: This mirror of yours—what does it do?
Merrill: Mostly it stands in my house, looking a bit spooky.
Aveline: But its magic, right? So it can do... magic things? Is it dangerous?
Merrill: It could fall on someone, but you'd have to push it really hard. It's quite heavy.
Aveline: Merrill, is it a danger to the people of Kirkwall or not?
Merrill: Oh! Only to anyone sitting right under it.

Given that she herself has called the mirror dangerous already, I think she's deflecting.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 27 mars 2011 - 12:49 .

[raziel1980]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Whacka wrote...
I'd read it two times and still not have had enough from it, thus reading it again.

It's an endless loop... of Merrill.

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

I could only be a hypocrite if I didn't tell you... It's a GREAT thing


"I would too.

edit: But I would rather have Hawke be the main character of Dragon Age 3 and have Merrill with him."

I don't have to comment. But I'd prefer DA3 Hawke + Merrill and the novel.


Seems there are quite a few Leliana fans here too. Makes me think that to most here, the dream group would be Warden, Hawke, Leliana and Merrill. Correcto?

I could get with that! 

I would also suspect that whomever the DA 3 main character is...if not, Hawke...will probadly have Cassandra as the big LI pull in that game...though she does give off to me atleast a MASSIVE Morrigan vibe. 

[DoNotIngest]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...Everything we think is so adorable is a result of her unfamiliarity with human society, the urban environment, etc. I'll bet that if we look at her among her clan from a Dalish perspective, much of the "cute" wouuld be gone, because suddenly she doesn't seem unwitting or naive, she doesn't need a ball of twine to avoid getting lost, and she does understand all the dirty jokes. If Dalish elves make dirty jokes. I don't know.

Well, as I find elfiness appealing way before any romantic or adorability issues pop up, I think I'd like Noob Merrill and Pro Merrill both.

[mesmerizedish]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Seems there are quite a few Leliana fans here too. Makes me think that to most here, the dream group would be Warden, Hawke, Leliana and Merrill. Correcto?

FUNNY STORY:

My Dalish mage warden + Merrill.

Leliana + my Hawke in Lothering.

And then my warden and Leliana end up together, and Hawke and Merrill end up together.

THERE IS ONLY ONE LOGICAL CONCLUSION: FOURSOME.

[raziel1980]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Seems there are quite a few Leliana fans here too. Makes me think that to most here, the dream group would be Warden, Hawke, Leliana and Merrill. Correcto?

FUNNY STORY:

My Dalish mage warden + Merrill.

Leliana + my Hawke in Lothering.

And then my warden and Leliana end up together, and Hawke and Merrill end up together.

THERE IS ONLY ONE LOGICAL CONCLUSION: FOURSOME.

Ohh but of course...and it is doable...since you could pull off the same situation in origins in the pearl...

[TMA LIVE]

I've sent Mary a PM, since I'm trying to figure out how possession actually works and happens in DA. Same with how Bloodmagic puts you more at risk.

[DoNotIngest]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

Merrill is most definitely not faking or acting. She doesn't purposefully act like she does, she's just that way.

There are a number of times when she uses her adorableness as a mask.

Aveline: This mirror of yours—what does it do?
Merrill: Mostly it stands in my house, looking a bit spooky.
Aveline: But its magic, right? So it can do... magic things? Is it dangerous?
Merrill: It could fall on someone, but you'd have to push it really hard. It's quite heavy.
Aveline: Merrill, is it a danger to the people of Kirkwall or not?
Merrill: Oh! Only to anyone sitting right under it.

Given that she herself has called the mirror dangerous already, I think she's deflecting.

I think Merrill can be adorable quite without realizing it, and adorable purposely. It's distinguishing the two where things can get a bit hazy; Clever, clever Merrill


"I could get with that! 

I would also suspect that whomever the DA 3 main character is...if not, Hawke...will probadly have Cassandra as the big LI pull in that game...though she does give off to me atleast a MASSIVE Morrigan vibe. "


Meh, I don't really care much for Cassandra as of yet. Not that I have anything against here, either; Just rather indifferent right now. With good character developpment (Spelling; writing in French messes with my ingrained English grammar), I could see myself liking her. She'll never beat The Merrill, though

[Emperor Iaius I]

iOnlySignIn wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Merrill's making me forget how much I hate elves.

Then slaughter the Dalish clan in Act 3 a few times more. That always reminds me how Merrill is not a typical Elf of this Age.

Yeah, but it's still her clan. Even though they rejected her and confirm why she's not one of them, she still likes them. Moreover, she still speaks Elvish and enjoys their culture.

It would be easier if she were switched with Fenris, but kept her personality.

raziel: Well, it also helped that lofa was a spirit and I favored spirits too. It was like a double incentive to destroy the elves.

[_Somebody]

Must one consort with a demon to use blood magic? Like do you need to make a deal with a demon to use it?

Or can you just slit your wrist, and use the blood as if it were lyrium? 

[Malevolence65]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I know, that was never what I was saying, only that "OMZ cute!" stems from her situation.

I don't understand, what do you mean by that?

Everything we think is so adorable is a result of her unfamiliarity with human society, the urban environment, etc. I'll bet that if we look at her among her clan from a Dalish perspective, much of the "cute" wouuld be gone, because suddenly she doesn't seem unwitting or naive, she doesn't need a ball of twine to avoid getting lost, and she does understand all the dirty jokes. If Dalish elves make dirty jokes. I don't know.

There are plenty of cute things that she says that have nothing to do with being inexperienced with humans/urban environments. Quite a bit or even a majority of her cuteness does stem from this, though.

[mesmerizedish]

Somebody wrote...

Must one consort with a demon to use blood magic? Like do you need to make a deal with a demon to use it?

Or can you just slit your wrist, and use the blood as if it were lyrium? 

Some people say yes, some people say no. Considering that the Wardens, and even the Chantry, routinely use blood magic, I'll be that demons aren't really required.

But, blood magic is (to my knowledge) the only way to summon demons.

Malevolence65 wrote...

There are plenty of cute things that she says that have nothing to do with being inexperienced with humans/urban environments. Quite a bit or even a majority of her cuteness does stem from this, though.

Such as?

[Malevolence65]

Maria Caliban wrote...
Aveline: Merrill, is it a danger to the people of Kirkwall or not?

She realizes that it's a danger to herself, but she doesn't think that it's a danger to anyone else except for the people very close to her, like Hawke.

[Maria Caliban]

Somebody wrote...

Must one consort with a demon to use blood magic? Like do you need to make a deal with a demon to use it?

Or can you just slit your wrist, and use the blood as if it were lyrium? 

You don't need a demon. You do need to someone to teach you blood magic specific spells. You can also slit your wrist and figure out how to power regular spells though it might not be easy to do.

[_Somebody]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Must one consort with a demon to use blood magic? Like do you need to make a deal with a demon to use it?

Or can you just slit your wrist, and use the blood as if it were lyrium? 

You don't need a demon. You do need to someone to teach you blood magic specific spells. You can also slit your wrist and figure out how to power regular spells though it might not be easy to do.

Ok, so if you read up on the lore and studied it, you could use it without doing anything with a demon.

And ishmaeltheforsaken, when does the Chantry use blood magic?

Modifié par Somebody, 27 mars 2011 - 01:06 .

[Maria Caliban]

Malevolence65 wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
Aveline: Merrill, is it a danger to the people of Kirkwall or not?

She realizes that it's a danger to herself, but she doesn't think that it's a danger to anyone else except for the people very close to her, like Hawke.

She hopes it's not a danger to anyone else. She doesn't actually know and she's aware that she doesn't know how dangerous it is. Merrill is purposely avoiding the question because telling Aveline 'I'm not sure - maybe it could do something horrible' would probably not go down well.

Remember Merrill's little mantra: It's a Keeper's duty to remember. Even the dangerous things.