Maria Caliban wrote...
Right now, the resolution of the Merrill quest is based on your friendship or rivalry.
DoNotIngest wrote...
By the way, all I meant about not seeing Flemeth again is that I'd like at least three years before the next DA game, so Bioware can go into more depth with their storyline.
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
DoNotIngest wrote...
By the way, all I meant about not seeing Flemeth again is that I'd like at least three years before the next DA game, so Bioware can go into more depth with their storyline.
I understood
I don't care about DAIII right now, because it (hopefully) won't feature Merrill too much. I want an expansion.
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, but the resolution of the quest happens prior to you going to Sundermount. I don't know what triggers it if everything works.
Anyway, we debated earlier as to when Merethari lets the demon into her, I think it's at the beginning of Act 3. In Act 2, there's a shimmering barrier in front of the cave entrance. At the beginning of Act 3, it's gone. When Merrill asks you to take her to the demon, she tells you that she tried to contact the demon but wasn't able to do so.
ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, but the resolution of the quest happens prior to you going to Sundermount. I don't know what triggers it if everything works.
Ugh, damn bugsAnyway, we debated earlier as to when Merethari lets the demon into her, I think it's at the beginning of Act 3. In Act 2, there's a shimmering barrier in front of the cave entrance. At the beginning of Act 3, it's gone. When Merrill asks you to take her to the demon, she tells you that she tried to contact the demon but wasn't able to do so.
That makes sense. When I got to the climax of the quest, I never had the impression that Marethari had just done it. I'd never thought about that barrier, though. I just know that if you run into it in Act I, you get a cool fight. Now that you bring it up, I'll bet that it's gone because of Marethari.
Whacka wrote...
Buttercups!Somebody wrote...
She only destroys it in the rival path. In the friendship path she keeps it, and still works on it.Northern Sun wrote...
Looks like she's smirking.
I just read on the wiki that Merrill is supposed to destroy the mirror if the clan gets slaughtered regardless of friendship/rivalry. Anyone able to confirm?
Then I think I'm gonna rivalmance her from now on...
Torax wrote...
Whacka wrote...
Buttercups!Somebody wrote...
She only destroys it in the rival path. In the friendship path she keeps it, and still works on it.Northern Sun wrote...
Looks like she's smirking.
I just read on the wiki that Merrill is supposed to destroy the mirror if the clan gets slaughtered regardless of friendship/rivalry. Anyone able to confirm?
Then I think I'm gonna rivalmance her from now on...
Even when I've not romanced Merrill. The mirror is gone from her home once you have completed her act 3 mission regardless. Even when I've freindmanced her the mirror wasn't there anymore. I went to my estate and didn't see the mirror there either. I've also always used the line about how Merathari loved her. Unless it's broken from that mindset. She stops using the mirror. The demon who was helping her is gone. Basically her 2nd mother sacrificed herself to protect her.
I never noticed evidence of her still working on the mirror after that.
I'll have to check again after my next playthrough, unless someone else mentions it.
Torax wrote...
Whacka wrote...
Buttercups!Somebody wrote...
She only destroys it in the rival path. In the friendship path she keeps it, and still works on it.Northern Sun wrote...
Looks like she's smirking.
I just read on the wiki that Merrill is supposed to destroy the mirror if the clan gets slaughtered regardless of friendship/rivalry. Anyone able to confirm?
Then I think I'm gonna rivalmance her from now on...
Even when I've not romanced Merrill. The mirror is gone from her home once you have completed her act 3 mission regardless. Even when I've freindmanced her the mirror wasn't there anymore. I went to my estate and didn't see the mirror there either. I've also always used the line about how Merathari loved her. Unless it's broken from that mindset. She stops using the mirror. The demon who was helping her is gone. Basically her 2nd mother sacrificed herself to protect her.
I never noticed evidence of her still working on the mirror after that.
Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 mars 2011 - 01:50 .
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, but the resolution of the quest happens prior to you going to Sundermount. I don't know what triggers it if everything works.
Modifié par Zjarcal, 28 mars 2011 - 01:50 .
Zjarcal wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, but the resolution of the quest happens prior to you going to Sundermount. I don't know what triggers it if everything works.
Wouldn't it trigger right after finishing her quest? As in, you'd get the quest to go check on her at her house.
I used the console to see the proper resolution and how it varied depending on friendmance or rivalmance. Pretty awesome to actually see the proper scene...
FIX THIS BIOWARE!!
DoNotIngest wrote...
It's supposed to be in the "next patch", with the rest of the companion issues. Of course, there hasn't been any patch so far, so when the "next patch" is, nobody knows.
Modifié par Maria Caliban, 28 mars 2011 - 01:54 .
I think the game assumes that only keeper died in her quest.Zjarcal wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, but the resolution of the quest happens prior to you going to Sundermount. I don't know what triggers it if everything works.
Wouldn't it trigger right after finishing her quest? As in, you'd get the quest to go check on her at her house.
I used the console to see the proper resolution and how it varied depending on friendmance or rivalmance. Pretty awesome to actually see the proper scene...
FIX THIS BIOWARE!!
Modifié par Somebody, 28 mars 2011 - 01:54 .
Maria Caliban wrote...
I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.
But the apology scene is nice.:innocent:Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, it's a bug. If you are her friend, she keeps the mirror and continues with blood magic. If you are her rival, she destroys it and give up blood magic.
I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, it's a bug. If you are her friend, she keeps the mirror and continues with blood magic. If you are her rival, she destroys it and give up blood magic.
I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.
Somebody wrote...
And what outfit do you guys like better, Merrill's green or white one? (I personally prefer the green one)
Maria Caliban wrote...
They released the first patch last week.
You use the face mod as well?Zjarcal wrote...
Somebody wrote...
And what outfit do you guys like better, Merrill's green or white one? (I personally prefer the green one)
Hmm, normally I like the green one better, but I've been using this mod that alters her secondary outift a bit, and I think I like it better overall.
Link to mod
Bible Doctor wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
They released the first patch last week.
Haven't patched it on my 360 yet.
Somebody wrote...
You use the face mod as well?
(I do like that clothing mod though)
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, it's a bug. If you are her friend, she keeps the mirror and continues with blood magic. If you are her rival, she destroys it and give up blood magic.
I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.DoNotIngest wrote...
It's supposed to be in the "next patch", with the rest of the companion issues. Of course, there hasn't been any patch so far, so when the "next patch" is, nobody knows.
They released the first patch last week.
Like Mary Kirby said, its just tough love. It really depends on what you think is right.ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
Maria Caliban wrote...
Yeah, it's a bug. If you are her friend, she keeps the mirror and continues with blood magic. If you are her rival, she destroys it and give up blood magic.
I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.
Mean, and I think the she should continue with the mirror/blood magic. Concepting a character who thinks otherwise will be different, because I can't justify it to myself logically without demeaning poor Merrill.
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