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[Zjarcal]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

I like the white outfit better, but I wish it came with a scarf.

THIS IS NOT BECAUSE I DON'T LIKE MERRILL'S NECK.

Some people think she has a weird neck. Whatevs is all I have to say to that. I JUST REALLY LIKE HER SCARF?!?!

Her neck is just fine... a good place to nomnom. :happy:

[mesmerizedish]

Somebody wrote...

Like Mary Kirby said, its just tough love. It really depends on what you think is right.

No, I mean the only way I can think of that makes it right is to take the stance that Merrill isn't capable of handling herself. That's what I mean by demeaning.

I suppose I could play a Seb-befriending Chantry zealot, but I think that'd make me sick to my stomach.

[_Somebody]

Zjarcal wrote...

Somebody wrote...

You use the face mod as well?

(I do like that clothing mod though)

OH GOD NO!!!

That was just a pic from the mod page... 

Oh ok. I thought that maybe I had to use the face mod with it. Im all for the clothing mod, but no so much on changing her face.

[congealeddgtllvr]

The Merrill rivalmance is totally worth it to anyone considering it. It seriously might be my favorite Bioware romance ever. You don't have to be mean to her to do it. It's more like Hawke is just worried about her and taking a more active stance. I don't think it's demeaning to her in any way. There are lots of dialogue options where you show support for her.

[DoNotIngest]

Zjarcal wrote...

Somebody wrote...

You use the face mod as well?

(I do like that clothing mod though)

OH GOD NO!!!

That was just a pic from the mod page... 

FEW! The outfit looks great, and it's a nice looking elf, and all, but... Where's my Merrill?


Ah, okay, you meant that patch. I have to play on a 360, so it didn't help me  And I've been wondering, can you only use mods with PC? I couldn't imagine playing Dragon Age on anything less than my flatscreen...

[Zjarcal]

DoNotIngest wrote...
Ah, okay, you meant that patch. I have to play on a 360, so it didn't help me  And I've been wondering, can you only use mods with PC? I couldn't imagine playing Dragon Age on anything less than my flatscreen...

Mods are a PC only thing, sorry.

But they're worth it... like, a lot. 

[Matterialize]

The agreement was between her and the Keeper, so I didn't feel it was my place to step in and confiscate it. Know what I mean?

She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

[Maria Caliban]

Bible Doctor wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

They released the first patch last week.

Haven't patched it on my 360 yet.

I don't think any of the issues fixed in the patch apply to the XBox 360. You don't have a single core processor. You're not being locked out due to the release date check.

Matterialize wrote...

She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

Not killing Anders, the abomination who just murdered an innocent mage girl because she's 'one of them!'

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 28 mars 2011 - 02:10 .

[_Somebody]

Matterialize wrote...

The agreement was between her and the Keeper, so I didn't feel it was my place to step in and confiscate it. Know what I mean?

She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

Well the keeper wants you to keep it and not give it to her.

[mesmerizedish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I don't think any of the issues fixed in the patch apply to the XBox 360. You don't have a single core processor. You're not being locked out due to the release date check.

And you're not being told you don't have anything in your floppy drive every time you try to log into the servers.

[Zjarcal]

Matterialize wrote...
She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

For all we know, convicing her to get rid of the Eluvian could be a mistake... 

[DoNotIngest]

Wow... Guess I'll have to blow another 60$ on DA2 for PC, unless I get it used. Then again, I could trade in Black Ops, I don't really need a game full of loud noises, overpowered weapons and idiotic shouting.


Merrill's scarf should be the 10th companion.

[Matterialize]

Somebody wrote...
Well the keeper wants you to keep it and not give it to her.

Yeah, but Merrill was the one who invoked the Dalish equipment rental whatsit and Marethari agreed to give it to her if we killed the thingamajig. And then she basically went back on her word and gave it to a third party, after the fact. Poor show, I say, poor show.

For all we know, convicing her to get rid of the Eluvian could be a mistake...

Indeed.

Modifié par Matterialize, 28 mars 2011 - 02:13 .

[TMA LIVE]

Zjarcal wrote...

Somebody wrote...

And what outfit do you guys like better, Merrill's green or white one? (I personally prefer the green one) 

Hmm, normally I like the green one better, but I've been using this mod that alters her secondary outift a bit, and I think I like it better overall.

(snip)

Link to mod

That's good. Though I still miss the scarf.

[congealeddgtllvr]

Matterialize wrote...

The agreement was between her and the Keeper, so I didn't feel it was my place to step in and confiscate it. Know what I mean?

She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

Most of the game seemed to consist of my Hawke stepping in where it wasn't really his place.  It wasn't something he worried too much about.  

And on a side note, I liked how Hawke could make mistakes in this game, like with his sibling and mother dying.  

[Maria Caliban]

Somebody wrote...

Well the keeper wants you to keep it and not give it to her.

Hawke: And what am I going to do with a magical carving knife?
Keeper: You can make soup with it, do repair work on your furniture, sew on a button...
Merrill: Jam it into your eye-socket repeatedly.
Keeper: ...or make a nice pair of shoes.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 28 mars 2011 - 02:18 .

[mesmerizedish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hawke: And what am I going to do with a magical carving knife?
Keeper: You can make soup with it, do repair work on your furniture, sew on a button...
Merrill: Jam it into your eye-socket repeatedly.
Keeper: ...or make a nice pair of shoes.

Pfft. Elves haven't had cobblers since the days of Arlathan.

[_Somebody]

Zjarcal wrote...

Matterialize wrote...
She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

For all we know, convicing her to get rid of the Eluvian could be a mistake... 

Or keeping it could be.

I am still undecided on what I will do for my "canon" run.

[_Somebody]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Well the keeper wants you to keep it and not give it to her.

Hawke: And what am I going to do with a magical carving knife?
Keeper: You can make soup with it, do repair work on your furniture, sew on a button...
Merrill: Jam it into your eye-socket repeatedly.
Keeper: ...or make a nice pair of shoes.

lmao you should become a BW writer.

[Zjarcal]

Somebody wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Matterialize wrote...
She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

For all we know, convicing her to get rid of the Eluvian could be a mistake... 

Or keeping it could be.

I am still undecided on what I will do for my "canon" run.

That's what I like really, there's no clear answer on what the good thing really is. While destroying the mirror might be the safe route, who knows, maybe studying the mirror could've helped in stopping the incoming abomination invasion, or the sixth blight, or Morrigan's angry return after the Warden stabbed her in WH... 

P.S.: I didn't stab Morrigan.

Modifié par Zjarcal, 28 mars 2011 - 02:23 .

[_Somebody]

Zjarcal wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Zjarcal wrote...

Matterialize wrote...
She can make her own mistakes and learn from them, like everyone else. Except Hawke, of course, who apparently never makes any.

For all we know, convicing her to get rid of the Eluvian could be a mistake... 

Or keeping it could be.

I am still undecided on what I will do for my "canon" run.

That's what I like really, there's no clear answer on what the good thing really is. While destroying the mirror might be the safe route, who knows, maybe studying the mirror could've helped in stopping the incoming abomination invasion, or the sixth blight, or Morrigan's angry return after the Warden stabbed her in WH... 

P.S.: I didn't stab Morrigan. :innocent:

You probably laughed while doing it.

I always wondered what happened afterwards to Finn and that Dalish elf that traveled with you. 

[Zjarcal]

Somebody wrote...
You probably laughed while doing it.

I really didn't... :crying:

I always wondered what happened afterwards to Finn and that Dalish elf that traveled with you. 

I don't recall if it was Sheryl Chee or Mary Kirby who said that she envisions them both adventuring together.

[TMA LIVE]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yeah, it's a bug. If you are her friend, she keeps the mirror and continues with blood magic. If you are her rival, she destroys it and give up blood magic.

I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.

Mean, and I think the she should continue with the mirror/blood magic. Concepting a character who thinks otherwise will be different, because I can't justify it to myself logically without demeaning poor Merrill.

I don't consider it mean, since the Keeper gave it to you, and allowed you a choice. You didn't just give it to her because she demanded it. Nor was it hers, and you stole it from her pocket. You were allowed to do what you thought was best with it.

As for her friendship, I more of have a problem with her still not getting it. She still doesn't realizing that what she did was not going to work out in the end. Instead, she pretends it was and that it didn't because "people don't want my help" and "I don't need them". She needs to realizes what her pride has cause others to do, what may have happened to her if they didn't care.



This is the friendship version. She just thinks "Oh, it's their fault I couldn't save my people. Why didn't they listen to me!". Yet she doesn't get that it was never going to work. The demon just wanted to use it to possess her. It wasn't going to help her, and thus it wasn't going to save anyone. Nor does making a telephone/mirror that doesn't have another telephone/mirror to call is going to "save the dalish".

And after the Keeper sacrificed herself for Merrill, all she does is "Well, maybe I should stop trying to help them if they don't want it. What a waste."

While in the rival version, she realised it's her fault. She realizes that the only reason the Keeper did what she did was because she loved her, and sacrificed for her. And that it wouldn't have happened if she didn't do what she did. She realizes her actions have consequences.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 28 mars 2011 - 02:32 .

[DoNotIngest]

Zjarcal wrote...

Somebody wrote...
You probably laughed while doing it.

I really didn't... :crying:

I always wondered what happened afterwards to Finn and that Dalish elf that traveled with you. 

I don't recall if it was Sheryl Chee or Mary Kirby who said that she envisions them both adventuring together.

Yes, they happily eloped and traveled around the lands bettering Thedas. Well, either that or they were eaten by darkspawn and other nasty critters. Probably would have been safest to quit while they were ahead.

[DoNotIngest]

TMA LIVE wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Yeah, it's a bug. If you are her friend, she keeps the mirror and continues with blood magic. If you are her rival, she destroys it and give up blood magic.

I am almost finished with the game where I rivalmanced Isabela and am considering a rivalry with Merrill but... I am weak. Going to her Keeper to get the knife-that-fixes-mirrors and then going 'snatch!' and not letting her have it is kinda mean.

Mean, and I think the she should continue with the mirror/blood magic. Concepting a character who thinks otherwise will be different, because I can't justify it to myself logically without demeaning poor Merrill.

I don't consider it mean, since the Keeper gave it to you, and allowed you a choice. You didn't just give it to her because she demanded it. Nor was it hers, and you stole it from her pocket. You were allowed to do what you thought was best with it.

As for her friendship, I more of have a problem with her still not getting it. She still doesn't realizing that what she did was not going to work out in the end. Instead, she pretends it was and that it didn't because "people don't want my help" and "I don't need them". She needs to realizes what her pride has cause others to do, what may have happened to her if they didn't care.






This is the friendship version. She just thinks "Oh, it's their fault I couldn't save my people. Why didn't they listen to me!". Yet she doesn't get that it was never going to work. The demon just wanted to use it to possess her. It wasn't going to help her, and thus it wasn't going to save anyone.

And after the Keeper sacrificed herself for Merrill, all she does is "Well, maybe I should stop trying to help them if they don't want it. What a waste."

While in the rival version, she realised it's her fault. She realizes that the only reason the Keeper did what she did was because she loved her, and sacrificed for her. And that it wouldn't have happened if she didn't do what she did.

If they Keeper hadn't interfered, Merrill would have just found she and the gang would have had to shred the demon, and she'd just happily keep on searching for ways to repair the mirror without any needless martyring on her behalf.

This feels familiar...