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[Mary Kirby]

Tigerking wrote...

So just to get this straight, Merrill can only be stopped from using blood magic through the full Rivalmance thing? You can't be friends with her but pick all the rivalry options that expressly don't approve of blood magic and tell her off for using it? If so, that's a helluva choice...
(Sorry if this is a dumb question, I just want to be absolutely sure.)

You don't have to romance her. You do have to be full-rivalry to get her to stop using blood magic.

[Mary Kirby]

MasterSamson88 wrote...

Doesn't she generally give it up either way, when her companion quest is complete and Marethari is dead?

No, she keeps it if you're on her friendship path. It's just confusing at the moment because of the bug. (Which I've been promised should be fixed in the patch.) If you're a rival, she smashes the mirror. If you're a friend, she keeps working on the mirror and remains a blood mage.

[Mary Kirby]

Tamahome560 wrote...

I wonder what is Mary Kirby's favourite relationship path with Merrill

Oh, the rivalry path is my favorite, hands down. As soon as I started planning Merrill, I knew that I wanted to have that moment where she accuses you of sabotaging her life, and her subsequent apology at your house.

[Mary Kirby]

TMA LIVE wrote...

Well, Merrill can't die, right?

She can, actually.

[Mary Kirby]

Somebody wrote...

How?

I think Lizardviking already covered it, but in more detail:

At the end of the game, side with the Templars.
If Anders hasn't already turned on you or died, and Merrill is not at full rivalry or friendship, she fights you.

[Mary Kirby]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Maybe demonic possession increases your mitochondrial level.

Do different spirits have different scents? "His blood is smokey with undertones of peach. It's a pride demon."

... I have to write that one down.

[Mary Kirby]

jwalker wrote...

Don't know if this is the right place, but I made this post in the tech forum earlier this morning and I haven't got an answer

Consoling Words not triggering

I'm hesitant to advance further in Act 2 without knowing if Merrill is already all bugged up and I have to restart the Deep Roads expedition, start using the console or something

Thanks.

Merrill doesn't have that conversation if Bethany or Carver join the Grey Wardens.

[Mary Kirby]

Whacka wrote...


What about Mourning?

It always goes auto-complete, without even doing a real thing.

That's the talk she was going to have if your sibling died or became a Grey Warden. It was supposed to be cut (There's no opportunity to have this talk between that event and the time-jump.) And it seems to have only been sorta-kinda-cut.

[Mary Kirby]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

I talked about this on the Fanfiction is a Harsh Tevinter Magister thread (which is apparently a counterpart to my thread?) but I don't like it when people write in present tense. At this point, I've probably read over 350 novels, 80k-200k, all of which were in past tense. Then I encounter a fan fic in present tense and I can't muddle through it. It's no different than if they decided to write with no capitalization or punctuation.

It's frustrating because it seems to be a popular tense in ff.

Present tense can work. I personally associate with pulp or noir narration, but I think a deft writer can make it work in any genre. Most writers aren't that deft.

In any case, present-tense narration should serve some purpose. If it doesn't, well... at best, it's a gimmick. At worst, it's a hallmark of someone who simply doesn't know how to write.

Fanfiction is practically by definition amateur (which, considering its etymology, I find incredibly appropriate). I would not expect "most" fanfiction writers to be able to pull off present-tense. And even when a writer is that skilled, very rarely would I expect there to be any cause for it. When it doesn't create an intended effect for the reader, it's just in the way. And then you "can't muddle through it."

If it's not handled well, putting a story in present tense can sap all the feeling out of it and make it seem as though all actions are being taken underwater or possibly on the moon.

"She walks across the room. She opens the drawer. She slices the peanut butter sandwich in half."

This is because the present tense necessarily slows everything down. Which is fine if the effect you're going for is the slow-motion replay of a brief moment in time. I like it better for stream-of-consciousness first-person writing. (And I put both Varric and Merrill's stories in it.) But it is a highly problematic tense to write in. And it drives some people nuts. (See Phillip Pullman's complaints about novels in present tense.)

On a side note: Maybe don't read books by Cormac McCarthy. He writes without commas or quotation marks. You get used to it after a while, but it's very distracting at first.

Сообщение изменено: Mary Kirby, 13 Апрель 2011 - 05:32 .

[Mary Kirby]

Maria Caliban wrote...

I'd forgotten that the Merrill story was written in present-tense and probably look like a bit of an ass for complaining about it on this thread.

Sorry.

No offense taken. It's just a discussion I find interesting. I'll avoid further derailing the thread to talk about evolving literary styles.

Also, that blood rainbows picture nearly made me choke on my coffee.

[Fernando Melo]

Knight of Dane wrote...

...i'd also like them to recognize Sebastian in some way, (Banter, please!)

Yep.  Basically any follower that appears in the party selection screen including Sebastian (if you have Exiled Prince DLC) you can bring, and they will have new lines.

[Fernando Melo]

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Do the sibs come back temporarily if you're doing the DLC in Act II or Act III? That would be one thing that might get me to buy it.

Yes. I won't spoil it with the how, but as I mentioned above as long as they exist in your party selection screen (whether selectable or not in main game due to their duties) you will have access to them for the DLC.

[Mary Kirby]

jlb524 wrote...

I've uploaded some Merrill banter from the DLC to you tube if interested.

Merrill and Isabela

Merrill and Anders (the romance one)

Merrill and Varric

Merrill and Fenris

Merrill and Sebastian

Merrill and Aveline/Anders

I think that's it for banter.

There's more. There are a few that are only between Merrill and Hawke. 

[Mary Kirby]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Can it come up while party members are around, or are you forced to leave the others behind?

It should be able to trigger with other characters around. It may just be the randomness of the banters and scarcity of triggers that's made these harder to hear.

[Mary Kirby]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

Cool beans. When I get the chance, I will play the DLC again with my canon(Merrill friendmance) Hawke, and see it for myself. However, I will probably be spoiled of the exchange before I get the chance.

*coughs* The personality of your Hawke may... alter these a bit.

[Mary Kirby]

PseudoEthnic wrote...

My canon Hawke is sarcastic/charming. Does the dialogue only work with certain personality types?

No you will always get something, but what you get changes.

[Lukas Kristjanson]

Between fanfic mistaken as transcription and youtube vids that play lines out of order, it's getting a little difficult to know what any of you are seeing, or what it is you expect to see. What Act did you launch Legacy from? Merrill's one "romance reactive" banter with Hawke references the chandelier in Hawke's estate, but that only happens after she moves in.

[Lukas Kristjanson]

Torax wrote...

LT123 wrote...

Wow-forgot to add that I was talking about Legacy. That's what I get for posting when I'm tired.

There is this one.

Yeah, that’s part of the confusion. There are banters between followers that reference romance states and have interjections by Hawke, but those aren’t technically banters between that character and Hawke. It’s the one-on-one banters between a follower and Hawke (which the main game didn’t have) that may be having issues. So LT123, to be clear, when you ran through legacy with Merrill as the only party member, did she say any back and forth banters with Hawke at all, “romance” or not? Outside of Legacy plot related observations, I mean.

[Mary Kirby]

Giggles_Manically wrote...

I wonder if Merrill gets any dialouge in the new DLC like she did in Legacy?

Absolutely. All the companions have new lines (most particularly banter and interjections) in Mark of the Assassin.