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[Emperor Iaius I]

Merrill is extremely capable. She'd go far there. Much further than she would anywhere else. Even Fenris acknowledges this. Remember, too, that Fenris also acknowledges the existence of honorable magisters.

All I'm asking is that people be open minded and not fall to prejudice and unjustified animus.

[Blackout62]

jlb524 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Don't forget that Merrill doesn't want to hurt anyone, and would rather die herself than see someone else die because of what she is doing or trying yo do. She would most definitly NOT kill another to power some blood magic ritual some demon would require, she would instead sacrifice herself.

When the demon in Fade offers her a deal with Feynriel's possession being the price she most certainly doesn't go "wait, that would mean someone other than me is going to die, take me instead."

That was the Fade, though, where she was heavily influenced by the Pride Demon.  I don't think people are quite themselves in it.

That's certainly an understatement. Once Aveline betrayed me to a desire demon I knew the Fade followed different rules beyond even what we thought they did in DA:O. I mean come on Aveline giving in to desire! The entire backbone of her character is that she so determined in her need to do good that she can push desires away almost indefinitely. After seeing that I could totally walk into Merrill's home and accept her apology with a sarcastic remark.

That being said this lengthy discussion over supporting or opposing Merrill's actions has really got me questioning the motivations of my Hawke's rivalmance. Way to go thread.

[_Somebody]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Sleazy! Vile! Must you give in to stereotype and insinuation?

Danarius was so awfully polite. Unlike all the other fetch quests, Danarius actually sends you a letter after you return his waylaid property to him. He invites you to Minrathous and offers a tour of the Arcanist Hall if you ever take him up on it.

He rescues Fenris's sister and offers to make her a magister! Do you think elves have such social mobility in Kirkwall, Ferelden, or Orlais? Ever recall seeing an elf in a position of power there? No, I didn't think so.

I have to admit, he was pretty charming. And hes real nice to you when you turn Fenris in. "The power of the Imperium will be at your disposal."

[Emperor Iaius I]

Dalish - I take it that a certain dwarf gambled away the shirt off his back?

[DoNotIngest]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Just found this line Found if priceless:
Emile: Are you a mage because you just magicked my breath away.
Hawke: You don't have a lot of experience with women do you?
Emile: Can I practice with you then *Giggles* In private?
Merrill: You're tongue is too raspy, you'd probably just drool all over the place.

Are there variations of what she says? I'd heard a different (and equally funny) version.

Your's is probably the correct one.
I didn't remember the exact sentance structure.
So I tried to type it from memory.
But I bet Hawke was thinking "Merrill!...I mean it's true but still!...awww never mind she's too adorable to be mad at"

What I heard was, I do believe:

Merrill: "No, your tongue isn't nearly rough enough."


Oh, and grats on 10,000th MAT post

[_Somebody]

Blackout62 wrote...

jlb524 wrote...

tmp7704 wrote...

Sunnie22 wrote...

Don't forget that Merrill doesn't want to hurt anyone, and would rather die herself than see someone else die because of what she is doing or trying yo do. She would most definitly NOT kill another to power some blood magic ritual some demon would require, she would instead sacrifice herself.

When the demon in Fade offers her a deal with Feynriel's possession being the price she most certainly doesn't go "wait, that would mean someone other than me is going to die, take me instead."

That was the Fade, though, where she was heavily influenced by the Pride Demon.  I don't think people are quite themselves in it.

That's certainly an understatement. Once Aveline betrayed me to a desire demon I knew the Fade followed different rules beyond even what we thought they did in DA:O. I mean come on Aveline giving in to desire! The entire backbone of her character is that she so determined in her need to do good that she can push desires away almost indefinitely. After seeing that I could totally walk into Merrill's home and accept her apology with a sarcastic remark.

That being said this lengthy discussion over supporting or opposing Merrill's actions has really got me questioning the motivations of my Hawke's rivalmance. Way to go thread.

But I can understand it for Aveline. She has no experience in the fade. Merrill is a mage, she is supposed to know about all this stuff and resist it. 

Modifié par Somebody, 28 mars 2011 - 11:09 .

[Emperor Iaius I]

I think she knows exactly what she was doing and performed a cold-blooded cost-benefit analysis: she tells Hawke that her people are more important.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Just found this line Found if priceless:
Emile: Are you a mage because you just magicked my breath away.
Hawke: You don't have a lot of experience with women do you?
Emile: Can I practice with you then *Giggles* In private?
Merrill: You're tongue is too raspy, you'd probably just drool all over the place.

Are there variations of what she says? I'd heard a different (and equally funny) version.

Your's is probably the correct one.
I didn't remember the exact sentance structure.
So I tried to type it from memory.
But I bet Hawke was thinking "Merrill!...I mean it's true but still!...awww never mind she's too adorable to be mad at"

What I heard was, I do believe:

Merrill: "No, your tongue isn't nearly rough enough."


Oh, and grats on 10,000th MAT post

Thanks.
And there are two different sayings then.

[DoNotIngest]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Dalish - I take it that a certain dwarf gambled away the shirt off his back?

I thought it was more strip poker

[_Somebody]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

I think she knows exactly what she was doing and performed a cold-blooded cost-benefit analysis: she tells Hawke that her people are more important.

After we slept together and she professed her love for Hawke on top of it. That kinda makes it worse.

Modifié par Somebody, 28 mars 2011 - 11:12 .

[DalishRanger]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Dalish - I take it that a certain dwarf gambled away the shirt off his back?

Pretty much. Isabela, Varric and Kenley (Hawke) are playing strip poker.  Albeit with some limits, because Kenley couldn't be convinced to play otherwise. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Modifié par DalishRanger, 28 mars 2011 - 11:13 .

[Malevolence65]

DoNotIngest wrote...
What I heard was, I do believe:

Merrill: "No, your tongue isn't nearly rough enough."
 

In the one playthrough that I didn't romance Merrill I heard something about Emile's tongue being too raspy/not raspy enough (I forget which) and that he'd drool all over the place. I don't know if it changes if you romance her.

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Malevolence65 wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...
What I heard was, I do believe:

Merrill: "No, your tongue isn't nearly rough enough."
 

In the one playthrough that I didn't romance Merrill I heard something about Emile's tongue being too raspy/not raspy enough (I forget which) and that he'd drool all over the place. I don't know if it changes if you romance her.

She was Rivalmanced when she said that line for me.

[DoNotIngest]

DalishRanger wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Dalish - I take it that a certain dwarf gambled away the shirt off his back?

Pretty much. Isabela, Varric and Kenley (Hawke) are playing strip poker.  Albeit with some limits, because Kenley couldn't be convinced to play otherwise. ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

Right! Woot! And Merrill just sitting there staring. Love it


All I know about the person who said the version I wrote was that they were a female Hawke romancing Merrill. Made me snort because it seems like she's comparing his tongue to her own, and saying something embarassing by mistake.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 28 mars 2011 - 11:22 .

[Special_Agent_Goodwrench]

Grand Admiral Cheesecake wrote...

Malevolence65 wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...
What I heard was, I do believe:

Merrill: "No, your tongue isn't nearly rough enough."
 

In the one playthrough that I didn't romance Merrill I heard something about Emile's tongue being too raspy/not raspy enough (I forget which) and that he'd drool all over the place. I don't know if it changes if you romance her.

She was Rivalmanced when she said that line for me.

It seems she has to be rivalmanced for that line. I had her in a friendship romance, and she used the drooling one.

[Emperor Iaius I]

As long as poor Merrill's not participating. That would just be wrong.

[_Somebody]

I think someone made a drawing similar to that a while back. It was pretty good too, anyone seen it?

[DoNotIngest]

Somebody wrote...

I think someone made a drawing similar to that a while back. It was pretty good too, anyone seen it?

You mean the one with everybody but Hawke (BOOO!) playing strip poker, with Merrill completely naked with a card shark smirk on her face? There's a link on Page 1

[DalishRanger]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

As long as poor Merrill's not participating. That would just be wrong.

Nope, she's not. Only Varric, Isabela and Kenley are playing. The others are just chatting and wisely keeping themselves out of Isabela's card games.

Kenley's #1 requirement before agreeing to play was nothing below the waist is allowed, so don't think this comic's going there. Aimo's already done that.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 28 mars 2011 - 11:28 .

[_Somebody]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Somebody wrote...

I think someone made a drawing similar to that a while back. It was pretty good too, anyone seen it?

You mean the one with everybody but Hawke (BOOO!) playing strip poker, with Merrill completely naked with a card shark smirk on her face? There's a link on Page 1

Ah yeah that. That was a good one.

[Emperor Iaius I]

Somebody wrote...

I think someone made a drawing similar to that a while back. It was pretty good too, anyone seen it?

WHY.

Poor Merrill.

[_Somebody]

I think she was still clothed. She was lighting a cigarette or something with her magic. It looked like she was winning.

Modifié par Somebody, 28 mars 2011 - 11:35 .

[Grand Admiral Cheesecake]

Somebody wrote...

I think she was still clothed. She was lighting a cigarette or something with her magic. It looked like she was winning.

The "Hoplessly innocent and naive" Gambit!
I KNEW IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Emperor Iaius I]

That's not what Ingest said.

Regardless, I disapprove. -999

[_Somebody]

Oh I just saw the drawing. Merrill only has her scarf left.