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DalishRanger wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...
I like Merrill for being Merrill; That entails some blood mage attributes, but only so much as a bleeding wrist whose blood is being consumed as soon as it's flowing out, for magical use. I'm not squeamish about blood; That picture, way back, of Merrill drinking blood off of her finger, kind of freaked me out, though. Vampire Merrill? Noty.

I feel exactly the same way. About Merrill and the particular fan art you're talking about. Fantastic painting skill, but it didn't feel like Merrill to me. I've drawn blood and violence many times - it doesn't bother me. But there's more to Merrill than her blood magic.

So do I.
There's more to her than blood magic. May it be her stuttering and stumbling, or getting lost in Kirkwall, she's one of the best companions in the game.

DalishRanger wrote...

Whacka wrote...
You left me no choice:

Inception time!

I shall now haunt stalk you in your dreamz and eat your cookies there.

Go for it! I often keep tasty chocolate chip cookies around here. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

That makes my victory all the sweeter. 

DalishRanger wrote...

Captain Iglo wrote...
A-Are you drawing in Flash ?! o_Ô

Yes. Inking, anyway. I draw in Photoshop, but depending on the style I want to have, I usually ink in Flash. Sometimes Illustrator. Rarely Photoshop. I can get smoother lines easier in Flash and Illustrator. My hand isn't particularly steady.

For example, this was inked in Illustrator. This in Flash. This in Photoshop. All of them were mostly or entirely colored in Photoshop, and all of them were first roughed out in Photoshop.

Believe me when I say Illustrator is the devil's program.

Especially the pen tool; I think it's possessed or something... Like, whenever you select it, the devil says "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" and messes up your entire drawing by just effing with the pen tool you're using...

Modifié par Whacka, 30 mars 2011 - 08:22 .

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double post

Modifié par Whacka, 30 mars 2011 - 08:22 .

[DoNotIngest]

Nice work Dalish. Me, I'll always be stuck with a pencil. The only things I will pridefully say I draw well are animals, and the "moment" of good rendering (well, drawing, you know, inking brain image to paper) is very, very infrequent. Seems you have some sweet skills at your disposal quite often.

There haven't been any pictures of Merrill that have to do with her stumbling tongue & toes, and her poor sense of direction, have there? Come to think of it, blood and purely-Merrill poses (the latter of which I'll never complain about) seem to be the only FanArt so far, unless I've missed something.

[Captain Iglo]

DalishRanger wrote...

Captain Iglo wrote...
A-Are you drawing in Flash ?! o_Ô

Yes.
Inking, anyway. I draw in Photoshop, but depending on the style I want
to have, I usually ink in Flash. Sometimes Illustrator. Rarely
Photoshop. I can get smoother lines easier in Flash and Illustrator. My
hand isn't particularly steady.

For example, this was inked in Illustrator. This in Flash. This in Photoshop. All of them were mostly or entirely colored in Photoshop, and all of them were first roughed out in Photoshop.

ahh ok I see. I never really ink and start by the colors. Though Im trying to change that. But  I could never imagine doing so in Flash...just feels wrong to me, like trying to draw in Indesign^^ But If it works for you, cool

while we're already at it, might as well add my current WIP of ma Hawke and Merrill, not really far

Modifié par Captain Iglo, 30 mars 2011 - 08:34 .

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Captain Iglo wrote...
ahh ok I see. I never really ink and already start with the colors. Though Im trying to change that. But could never imagine doing so in Flash...just feels wrong to me, like trying to draw in Indesign^^ But If it works for you cool

while we're already at it, might as well add my current WIP of ma Hawke and Merrill, not really far

But who would want to draw in InDesign? It's more suitable for making covers.

I'm not a huge fan of Illustrator myself. Namely because of the pen tool.

Yeah, drawings look nice in Illustrator. But Ctrl + C then Ctrl + V'ing the image into a different editor (except for Flash) makes the drawing all blocky. That's "natural" though.

Anyway, nice drawing. I myself can't draw for poop, so yeah... No "revolutionizing" (in a sense) ideas.
I've always been someone that wants to break the habit, to make something new. Sadly, I can hardly realize this when it comes to drawing.

Modifié par Whacka, 30 mars 2011 - 08:37 .

[DalishRanger]

Whacka wrote...
So do I. There's more to her than blood  magic. May it be her stuttering and stumbling, or getting lost in Kirkwall, she's one of the best companions in the game.

Her awkwardness and curiousity about human culture are some of my favorite things about her. I still crack up reading her Act 2 codex that mentions how hilariously lost she gets when wandering around Kirkwall. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Whacka wrote...
Believe me when I say Illustrator is the devil's program.

Especially the pen tool; I think it's possessed or something... Like, whenever you select it, the devil says "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" and messes up your entire drawing by just effing with the pen tool you're using...

I love Illustrator for graphic/logo design work, and I've recently grown fond of it for certain styles of inking. And it's my program of choice for comic speech bubbles. The pen tool takes getting used to, but after  years of practice, I rarely have trouble with it. I love it for certain kinds of jobs.

DoNotIngest wrote...

Nice work Dalish. Me, I'll always be stuck with a pencil. The only things I will pridefully say I draw well are animals, and the "moment" of good rendering (well, drawing, you know, inking brain image to paper) is very, very infrequent. Seems you have some sweet skills at your disposalquite often.

I'm far less skilled with a pencil than I am with Photoshop. Not that I'm horribly with pencils, just that I have more control when using digital art programs, and that's one of the reasons I prefer them. I once did a white charcoal drawing of fencers for a figure drawing class that came out amazing, though. And I still can't figure out what I did to pull it off, because I've never been able to duplicate it. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/pinched.png[/smilie]

I do love doodling in pen on a pad or on class notes, though. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Not Whacka wrote...
Therehaven't been any pictures of Merrill that have to do with her stumbling tongue & toes, and her poor sense of direction, have there? Come to think of it, blood and purely-Merrill poses (the latter of which I'll  never complain about) seem to be the only FanArt so far, unless I've missed something.

I don't think so, that I can recall. Thus far though, none of my fan art ideas for her involve her blood magic. They usually involve her adorkableness or (generally) good-natured temper. I already wrote down a short doodle comic idea I have for once I've finished this one.

Captain Iglo wrote...
ahh ok I see. I never really ink and start by the colors. Though Im trying  to change that. But  I could never imagine doing so in Flash...just  feels wrong to me, like trying to draw in Indesign^^ But If it works for you, cool

I like playing around and finding new ways to do things. Some of my  favorite technqiues were discovered by complete accident. But that's the great thing about these art programs - there's almost no limit to different kinds of approaches. I love seeing how others do things different in them. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie] Nice picture so far, by the way!

Whacka wrote...
Yeah, drawings look nice in Illustrator. But Ctrl + C then Ctrl + V'ing the image into a different editor (except for Flash) makes the drawing all blocky. That's "natural" though.

That's because Illustrator works in Vectors, as does Flash. But Photoshop/most other image programs are bitmap/pixel based.

*Edited because the forum formatting hates me today. <_<

Modifié par DalishRanger, 30 mars 2011 - 08:44 .

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DalishRanger wrote...

Whacka wrote...
So do I.
There's more to her than blood
magic. May it be her stuttering and stumbling, or getting lost in
Kirkwall, she's one of the best companions in the game.

Her awkwardness and curiousity about human culture are some of my favorite things about her. I still crack up reading her Act 2 codex that mentions how hilariously lost she gets when wandering around Kirkwall. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

Same here.

It's what makes her adorable.  And it adds to her character.

Whacka wrote...
Believe me when I say Illustrator is the devil's program.

Especially
the pen tool; I think it's possessed or something... Like, whenever you
select it, the devil says "ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL" and messes up your
entire drawing by just effing with the pen tool you're using...

I love Illustrator for graphic/logo design work, and I've recently grown fond
of it for certain styles of inking. And it's my program of choice for
comic speech bubbles. The pen tool takes getting used to, but after
years of practice, I rarely have trouble with it. I love it for certain kinds of jobs.

I guess you're right about that. I myself ain't in the business of drawing though. Wish I could draw. Would make my upcoming fanfic much better. 

Whacka wrote...
There haven't been any pictures of Merrill that have to do with her stumbling tongue & toes, and her poor sense of direction, have there? Come to think of it, blood and purely-Merrill poses (the latter of which I'll never complain about) seem to be the only FanArt so far, unless I've missed something.

I never said that!

Imposter!

Modifié par Whacka, 30 mars 2011 - 08:42 .

[DoNotIngest]

DalishRanger wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Nice work Dalish. Me, I'll always be stuck with a pencil. The only things I will pridefully say I draw well are animals, and the "moment" of good rendering (well, drawing, you know, inking brain image to paper) is very, very infrequent. Seems you have some sweet skills at your disposal quite often.

I'm far less skilled with a pencil than I am with Photoshop. Not that I'm horribly with pencils, just that I have more control when using digital art programs, and that's one of the reasons I prefer them. I once did a white charcoal drawing of fencers for a figure drawing class that came out amazing, though. And I still can't figure out what I did to pull it off, because I've never been able to duplicate it.

I do love doodling in pen on a pad or on class notes, though.

Wow. I wish my doodles looked like that. My only decent "artwork" has made sweat bead on my brow, my doodling is quite literally what any eight year old would do in a textwork. In fact, it usually isn't even recognizable "things". I know what you mean completely with the inability to draw something twice; I absolutely love it when I can produce something I enjoy looking at, but 95% of my efforts are in vain, and it starts feeling wretched.

Bit random, but I've always wanted to have a tattoo, I just haven't been able to come up with anything I'd like to have engraved in my flesh. But "Dalish", over Merrill's Dalish Pariah tree symbol, and "Pariah" underneath it, has had me wondering for a few days. Pity I don't know of anybody I'd trust engraving Merrill's face into my left bicep; That would liven things up when the shirt comes off.

[DalishRanger]

Whacka wrote...
I guess you're right about that. I myself ain't in the business of drawing though. Wish I could draw. Would make my upcoming fanfic much better. 

And I wish I could draw better than I can. I've improved over the years, but I still nitpick at things. Different people, different skills. I can't remember numbers worth crap, for instance. I switch them around - like remembering 42 as 24. And I can't do even basic math without writing it out long hand most of the time. I take longer to figure out numerical data than most people do.

Whacka wrote...
I never said that!

Imposter!

Sorry about that. Fixed.

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DalishRanger wrote...

Whacka wrote...
I guess you're right about that. I myself ain't in the business of drawing though. Wish I could draw. Would make my upcoming fanfic much better. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/sad.png[/smilie]

And I wish I could draw better than I can. I've improved over the years, but I still nitpick at things. Different people, different skills. I can't remember numbers worth crap, for instance. I switch them around - like remembering 42 as 24. And I can't do even basic math without writing it out long hand most of the time. I take longer to figure out numerical data than most people do.

True, true. I shouldn't complain, actually.

I know my way with words pretty well.

...Well, in Dutch anyway. I can turn almost any English text I'm writing in a huge mess.

And I know my way with certain parts of history as well. 

Perhaps I should become a writer...

...Nah. I always was very interested in game programming and history, so I picked game development.

DalishRanger wrote...
Sorry about that. Fixed.

Yeah, saw it now.

True, Illustrator works in vectors. So does Flash. I knew about this already for quite some time.

I'd like to see this feature more often, though. Makes images look more awesome. And that's what we need: more awesome.

Though Microsoft Paint does not need it. MS Paint is too epic for that.

MS Paint is heavily underestimated. Believe me when I say that.

Modifié par Whacka, 30 mars 2011 - 08:56 .

[DalishRanger]

Whacka wrote...
True, Illustrator works in vectors. So does Flash. I knew about this already for quite some time.

I'd like to see this feature more often, though. Makes images look more awesome. And that's what we need: more awesome.

There's advantages and disadvantages to each.  Vectors are better for images that have few colors, and are meant to be enlarged or shrunk to any size and still retain the same detail. Like logos, for instance. But run into problems when you get into multitudes of colors and layers.

Pixels are better for more detail and layers like paintings. Which is why I tend to use vector programs for line art (keeps them crisp and I can resize them if neeed be), but programs like Photoshop for coloring.

DoNotIngest wrote...
I know what you mean completely with the inability to draw something twice; I absolutely love it when I can produce something I enjoy looking at, but 95% of my efforts are in vain, and it starts feeling wretched.

Oh, I could draw the fencers themselves again. But I can't figure out how I got white charcoal to look good. I've always sucked with it, and I've sucked again using it ever since. I've yet to reproduce the kinds of shading/lines I had here using white charcoal. D'oh.

More on topic, a screencap of Merrill and Kenley (Act 1):



Oh... And also Carver. With longer hair. Go figure.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 30 mars 2011 - 09:00 .

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Speaking of fanart. I found this:


Not even Fenris can resist the puppy eyes.

edit: curse you formatting.

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 30 mars 2011 - 09:03 .

[DalishRanger]

^ Bahahaha. xD Is that Arylas' work? It certainly looks like her style. And her sense of humor.

[DoNotIngest]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

Speaking of fanart. I found this:

http://arylas.devian...errill da2&qo=3
Not even Fenris can resist the puppy eyes.

Love it.

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Captain Uccisore wrote...

Speaking of fanart. I found this:

http://arylas.devian...errill da2&qo=3
Not even Fenris can resist the puppy eyes.

Can't... see... the... image...

*snip*

Edit:
Now I can see!

No one can resist Merrill's puppy eyes!

...Well, except for me. Puppy eyes are utterly ineffective against me. Though I might start to melt... But giggles have to be involved for that. From either Merrill or Leli.

In response to Maria's post:

Maria Caliban wrote...

Criticizing a Dragon Age fan art for having an unrealistic amount of blood is like criticizing a Day of the Living Dead fan art for having zombies.

Did I criticize?

If I did, I apologize. Didn't meant it that way.

Modifié par Whacka, 30 mars 2011 - 09:07 .

[Maria Caliban]

Criticizing a Dragon Age fan art for having an unrealistic amount of blood is like criticizing a Day of the Living Dead fan art for having zombies.

[_Somebody]

DalishRanger wrote...

Whacka wrote...
True, Illustrator works in vectors. So does Flash. I knew about this already for quite some time.

I'd like to see this feature more often, though. Makes images look more awesome. And that's what we need: more awesome.

There's advantages and disadvantages to each.  Vectors are better for images that have few colors, and are meant to be enlarged or shrunk to any size and still retain the same detail. Like logos, for instance. But run into problems when you get into multitudes of colors and layers.

Pixels are better for more detail and layers like paintings. Which is why I tend to use vector programs for line art (keeps them crisp and I can resize them if neeed be), but programs like Photoshop for coloring.

DoNotIngest wrote...
I know what you mean completely with the inability to draw something twice; I absolutely love it when I can produce something I enjoy looking at, but 95% of my efforts are in vain, and it starts feeling wretched.

Oh, I could draw the fencers themselves again. But I can't figure out how I got white charcoal to look good. I've always sucked with it, and I've sucked again using it ever since. I've yet to reproduce the kinds of shading/lines I had here using white charcoal. D'oh.

More on topic, a screencap of Merrill and Kenley (Act 1):



Oh... And also Carver. With longer hair. Go figure.

Your Hawke reminds me of that Ferelden worker from the Bone Pit.

[Giggles_Manically]

The one whose eggplant supplied half the bastards in South Reach?

[XOGHunter246]

Have to say I liked her new outfit she gets and how she can actually tanks mobs with the amount of hp she has and she always putting a nice barrier around me. I really felt bad for her naivety aiding to her clans death and I felt the romance was good. 

Modifié par XOGHunter246, 30 mars 2011 - 09:17 .

[DalishRanger]

Somebody wrote...
Your Hawke reminds me of that Ferelden worker from the Bone Pit.

I think I know who you're talking about. Their faces were structured different, but they had the same hair. It amused me when I ran into him. My first Hawke, Declan, during Act 1 also looked a lot like the bad poet that tries to hit on Isabela. I didn't see the bad poet until my third replay though, so it caught me off guard and I sat there laughing at my computer for quite a while.

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Varric: But you do frolic?
Merrill: Of course we do! We wouldn't be elves, otherwise.

Hmm, I wonder what version of frolic she thought he meant?

[DalishRanger]

I always took Merrill's banter with Varric about elves frolicking as an intentional joke on her part. I don't think she's always completely oblivious - there's traces of subtle, dry humor here and there. I like that about her.

[MasterSamson88]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

Speaking of fanart. I found this:

*snip*
Not even Fenris can resist the puppy eyes.

edit: curse you formatting.

Hahaha, those eyes of hers were almost glowing when she started to cry. 

How could you say no?

[stormrain]

DalishRanger wrote...
I always took Merrill's banter with Varric about elves frolicking as an intentional joke on her part. I don't think she's always completely oblivious - there's traces of subtle, dry humor here and there. I like that about her.

I agree. I've seen some argue that Merrill must be very dense/naive to think that muggings are fascinating or pickpocketing is a "friendly gesture". I never took those comments literally. I think Merrill's sarcasm is too subtle for some to pick up on.

Of course, there are times where she is very out of her depth (brothels and broth, anyone?), but come on, it's culture shock. She's all the more adorable for it.

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 30 mars 2011 - 09:28 .

[MasterSamson88]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

DalishRanger wrote...
I always took Merrill's banter with Varric about elves frolicking as an intentional joke on her part. I don't think she's always completely oblivious - there's traces of subtle, dry humor here and there. I like that about her.

I agree. I've seen some argue that Merrill must be very dense/naive to think that muggings are fascinating or pickpocketing is a "friendly gesture". I never took those comments literally. I think Merrill's sarcasm is too subtle for some people to pick up on.

Yeah same here. I think that sometimes Merrill has a very dry sense of humor, to the point where considering she's sometimes awkward and a tad naive people presume she's just being stupid. I say no though.