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DalishRanger wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Ack! C'mon, leave something to be discovered, Dalish! Looking great, though. Think you might be done by week's end (Sunday)?

To the first: Believe me, there's a lot I'm hiding.

To the second: I really hope I'm finished way before then.

Good, and Great!   

"Don't remind me of the Statistics quiz I had today that I got a 0 on 

I had a headache, I was very tired,  I got the quiz,  I didn't really know the stuff very well, I remembered that our teacher drops our lowest quiz grade, and just put my head down and took a nap.

Uh, Merrill related, uhhhh... I wonder if Merrill is good at math :wizard:"


I bet she counts and names Varric's chest hairs on the slow days. She's a pro.

[Emperor Iaius I]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Somebody wrote...

What did it mean?

It was... Senatus Magisque Minrathous, or something, right?

It's a play on the phrase Senatus Populusque Romanus (Senate and People of Rome). I guess it would be Senate and Magisters of Minrathous.

Nice message you're sending there, Iaius

Close. Senatus MagisistriQue Μινραθου--but yes, it means Senate and Magisters of Minrathous.

Two notes:

I. Romanus is properly an adjective, not a noun in the genitive (as Minrathou is, in my usage). It's an attributive adjective by necessity (recall the copulative force of the -que led in large part to the Great Schism of the Church), so the translation is "the Roman Senate and the Roman People." 

II. Populus does not mean people in the sense that we'd think of it. The populus, or People, is contrasted with the capite censi or the proletarii: the Roman People are citizens capable of voting in the comitia centuriata, which had strict property qualifications and was heavily weighted towards the wealthiest, or the comitia tributa. As a practical matter, the comitia tributa was called more often (since it consisted of all the citizens and was therefore more republican), but it too greatly favored the wealthy: the senators tended to belong to the rural tribes, as they had estates outside of the City. Those tribes were small, and since the votes were counted by tribe, each person's vote within the tribe counted for more. In contrast, the urban tribes were swollen with hundreds of thousands of Romans living in the City, as well as Italians newly enfranchised. Both assemblies ceased functioning during the principate of Tiberius, annoyingly.

So... technically, the Populus means everybody but in reality, it meant the wealthiest (in the comitia centuriata) or the well-born (in the comitia tributa).  The People ceased having any power at all (beyond having the emperor as their representative against the Senate) early in imperial history, even though SPQR was used 'til the fall of Constantinopolis.

I figure that Tevinter, standing in for the Eastern Empire, would be more honest about it and probably never had much of a republican history.

[DoNotIngest]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Somebody wrote...

What did it mean?

It was... Senatus Magisque Minrathous, or something, right?

It's a play on the phrase Senatus Populusque Romanus (Senate and People of Rome). I guess it would be Senate and Magisters of Minrathous.

Nice message you're sending there, Iaius

Close. Senatus MagisistriQue Μινραθου--but yes, it means Senate and Magisters of Minrathous.

Two notes:

I. Romanus is properly an adjective, not a noun in the genitive (as Minrathou is, in my usage). It's an attributive adjective by necessity (recall the copulative force of the -que led in large part to the Great Schism of the Church), so the translation is "the Roman Senate and the Roman People." 

II. Populus does not mean people in the sense that we'd think of it. The populus, or People, is contrasted with the capite censi or the proletarii: the Roman People are citizens capable of voting in the comitia centuriata, which had strict property qualifications and was heavily weighted towards the wealthiest, or the comitia tributa. As a practical matter, the comitia tributa was called more often (since it consisted of all the citizens and was therefore more republican), but it too greatly favored the wealthy: the senators tended to belong to the rural tribes, as they had estates outside of the City. Those tribes were small, and since the votes were counted by tribe, each person's vote within the tribe counted for more. In contrast, the urban tribes were swollen with hundreds of thousands of Romans living in the City, as well as Italians newly enfranchised. Both assemblies ceased functioning during the principate of Tiberius, annoyingly.

So... technically, the Populus means everybody but in reality, it meant the wealthiest (in the comitia centuriata) or the well-born (in the comitia tributa).  The People ceased having any power at all (beyond having the emperor as their representative against the Senate) early in imperial history, even though SPQR was used 'til the fall of Constantinopolis.

I figure that Tevinter, standing in for the Eastern Empire, would be more honest about it and probably never had much of a republican history.

So, I take it you enjoy the Mediterranean? I think Merrill would too. A lot less "I think I stepped in something..." for the barefooted adventurers when you have a sewer.

[Rykoth]

Finally got to see most of the Act 2 Rivalmance stuff today with my Hawke.

Much more powerful IMO then FriendRomance.

[Ace Attorney]

Am I alone in liking Merrill's romance armor change?

It is partly tempting me to not romance Isabela. All other romance Armors sucks.

Modifié par T3hAnubis, 31 mars 2011 - 01:51 .

[_Somebody]

T3hAnubis wrote...

Am I alone in liking Merrill's romance armor change?

It is partly tempting me to not romance Isabela. All other romance Armors sucks except Merrill's.

I didnt mind it, but I liked her old outfit better. I like the scarf.

[DalishRanger]

Rykoth wrote...

Finally got to see most of the Act 2 Rivalmance stuff today with my Hawke.

Much more powerful IMO then FriendRomance.

I've played through both and I'm torn. The friend romance is sweeter (and I'm a sucker for sweet romances ), but the rivalmance is more dramatic, and I like the right kind/amount of drama. But at the same time, in a dark fantasy game with so much drama already, it's kind of nice to have a romance be less angst-ridden.

I'm still not sure which I prefer. I like the friendship romance scene more, but just the overall romances, I'm not sure which I prefer.

But that's what different Hawkes are for.

Somebody wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

Am I alone in liking Merrill's romance armor change?

It is partly tempting me to not romance Isabela. All other romance Armors sucks except Merrill's.

I didnt mind it, but I liked her old outfit better. I like the scarf.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/grin.png[/smilie]

This. Plus I like the greens on Merrill more than all off-whites. They wash out her skintone a bit. The color nerd in me doesn't like that.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 31 mars 2011 - 01:53 .

[Ace Attorney]

I like her neck.

[_Somebody]

DalishRanger wrote...

I've played through both and I'm torn. The friend romance is sweeter (and I'm a sucker for sweet romances ), but the rivalmance is more dramatic, and I like the right kind/amount of drama. But at the same time, in a dark fantasy game with so much drama already, it's kind of nice to have a romance be less angst-ridden.

I'm still not sure which I prefer. I like the friendship romance scene more, but just the overall romances, I'm not sure which I prefer.

But that's what different Hawkes are for.

This. I liked both a lot.

[Emperor Iaius I]

I don't like the bright colors and the chainmail neck.  There's also something rather cool about the scarf and the furry shoulders, and I like the swaying fabric too. Capes, coattails, or anything resembling the two are always awesome.

That said, I might try the alternate version of the romance outfit that I cooked up.

DoNotIngest wrote...


So, I take it you enjoy the Mediterranean? I think Merrill would too. A lot less "I think I stepped in something..." for the barefooted adventurers when you have a sewer.

I think she would. The north, Thedas's equivalent of the Mediterranean, has a lot more history. Both Arlathan's ruins and Minrathous are within the Imperium's borders, and I can imagine that she'd love to go exploring that region.

It's a shame that Thedas doesn't really have an equivalent to the Aegean islands, though. They're beautiful, both in their Hellenic names and in their climate/appearance.

[DoNotIngest]

T3hAnubis wrote...

I like her neck.

Same. But I'd love it if her romance armour had her scarf. Not to hide her neck, but it's her oldest friend, isn't it?

Edit: I would have preferred her original outfit, but the upgraded version seems more form fitting. A bit of a tweaked original would be great.

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 31 mars 2011 - 01:58 .

[stormrain]

@Dalish I know exactly how you feel. Gun to my head, I'd have to choose the rivalmance.

Here's a thought. Ignoring that it's a visual cue for a romance, What do you guys think is the exact reason for Merrill's snazzy new armor? What made her choose it get it? How'd she get it? Where? Is it all Isabela's doing?

This question stands for Izzy's wardrobe change as well.

Also, I'm in the "default armor looks better" camp. Gotta love that scarf.

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 31 mars 2011 - 01:59 .

[Emperor Iaius I]

Considering that the armor is Dalish, I'm not sure how Isabela would be responsible. But then I'm also not sure how she got it, either. Maybe Varric "imported" it for her.

[DoNotIngest]

Captain Uccisore wrote...

@Dalish I know exactly how you feel. Gun to my head, I'd have to choose the rivalmance.

Here's a thought. Ignoring that it's a visual cue for a romance, What do you guys think is the exact reason for Merrill's snazzy new armor? What made her choose it get it? How'd she get it? Where? Is it all Isabela's doing?

This question stands for Izzy's wardrobe change as well.

*Merril moves in*

Hawke: "Err, Merrill?... Where are your clothes? All I see is that torn, bloodstained armour."
Merrill: "These are my clothes! They just, well, I needed harder clothes when I started adventuring with you, didn't I? That's where the mail comes from."
Hawke: "Yeah... Let's go to the robes shop, Merrill..."

[Ace Attorney]

She moves in with you. Her regular clothes are too feral for Hightown. Simple explanation.

[mesmerizedish]

I like her new armor much better than her old armor, but BY GOLLY IT NEEDS A SCARF.

[_Somebody]

T3hAnubis wrote...

She moves in with you. Her regular clothes are too feral for Hightown. Simple explanation.

But yet she still doesnt wear shoes, and steals from peoples flower gardens.

[Ace Attorney]

Heavens no. With all her blood magic, her scarf would get bloody and stink.

[DoNotIngest]

Somebody wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

She moves in with you. Her regular clothes are too feral for Hightown. Simple explanation.

But yet she still doesnt wear shoes, and steals from peoples flower gardens.

Well, what do you expect, a refined Merrill? Besides, where else would she find flowers, and how would she find out the textures of various nasty substances on the ground?

[mesmerizedish]

T3hAnubis wrote...

Heavens no. With all her blood magic, her scarf would get bloody and stink.

You underestimate the POWER OF SCARFSKULL.

[Ace Attorney]

Somebody wrote...

T3hAnubis wrote...

She moves in with you. Her regular clothes are too feral for Hightown. Simple explanation.

But yet she still doesnt wear shoes, and steals from peoples flower gardens.

Two possibilities:
1. She likes the feel of the ground.
2. Hawke has a foot fetish and demands to have her foot ready for a sniff 24/7.

I like #2.

[Torax]

About all the Elves you'll see in DA2 having exposed feet. For example just one in the alienage that i'm looking at is wearing full on shoes and it's just slippers. Most have a minimum exposed toes and heels.

[stormrain]

I'd really like to know why BioWare decided all elves hate shoes. It's a curious thing.

Modifié par Captain Uccisore, 31 mars 2011 - 02:16 .

[ydaraishy]

T3hAnubis wrote...

Heavens no. With all her blood magic, her scarf would get bloody and stink.

...saves having to carry around a knife?

[DalishRanger]

I chalk it up to the Dalish like the feel of the earth and the city elves can't afford them. But, realistically - art style. Personally, I like Merrill's lack of shoes. It does feel odd that almost all the elves don't have soles, though.

Also, screenshot! I love this scene, regardless of the path.