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ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...


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Totally late, never posted in this thread before, but clearly I'm stalking you. ISH. I see you have a jailbroken iphone there. I am also in possession of just such a device. How do I make my icons do that? D: I'll even change my background to Merrill in payment!

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Here's a new artwork of Merrill that I find quite lovely.
browse.deviantart.com/

(Warning: Although she is strategically covered, still contains nudity.)


Love this pic

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Sonuvab**ch. I was so close to completing chapter 2 of my Merrill-fic and gmail just ATE the draft. UGH. And idiot me has been writing it out in his browser on his home computer instead of writing in Word or notepad or something. URGLE!!!!11one1!!

*sigh*

Ah well maybe Hawke and Isabela arguing over licking her boots wasn't as funny a scene as it coulda been and the universe is punishing me.

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That's why I write on paper Posted Image Besides, only myself and three year olds can read my printing. Written a fair bit now.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

It's not the same thing. The taint was on a mirror, not flowing in the blood like a virus.

Why would that make a difference? We're not talking about someone who has had the taint for years or even a Grey Warden who's undergone a magical ritual that introduced a massive amount of taint to their body and bound it with lyrium, but someone newly infected.

Why couldn't Merrill's blood magic clean the taint from Bethany or Carver's body when they first get infected?

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Oh I thought when you meant they were a GW. I dont know though, Im sure that would require a lot of power. Shes gunna need to slit her wrists real deep for that.

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I'm sure Merrill's blood magic could turn Bethany/Carver into a nice, untainted, abomination.

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Wulfram wrote...

I'm sure Merrill's blood magic could turn Bethany/Carver into a nice, untainted, abomination.


Still counts.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

It's not the same thing. The taint was on a mirror, not flowing in the blood like a virus.

Why would that make a difference? We're not talking about someone who has had the taint for years or even a Grey Warden who's undergone a magical ritual that introduced a massive amount of taint to their body and bound it with lyrium, but someone newly infected.

Why couldn't Merrill's blood magic clean the taint from Bethany or Carver's body when they first get infected?

Doesn't one of the Dragon Age books descripe a warden being cleansed of the taint?
The elf who was Maric's lover i think, haven't read the book myself though..

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Wulfram wrote...

I'm sure Merrill's blood magic could turn Bethany/Carver into a nice, untainted, abomination.



Um... Right... How exactly do you figure that would happen?

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Maria Caliban wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

It's not the same thing. The taint was on a mirror, not flowing in the blood like a virus.

Why would that make a difference? We're not talking about someone who has had the taint for years or even a Grey Warden who's undergone a magical ritual that introduced a massive amount of taint to their body and bound it with lyrium, but someone newly infected.

Why couldn't Merrill's blood magic clean the taint from Bethany or Carver's body when they first get infected?


If I have a drop of blood with AIDS on my arm, I'd wash it off and be ok. Same if it was on an object. If I have my entire blood infected by AIDS, flowing in my heart and veins, there's no going back. You can't wash that off. It's inside, and flowing.

Modifié par TMA LIVE, 06 avril 2011 - 07:50 .


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TMA LIVE wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

TMA LIVE wrote...

It's not the same thing. The taint was on a mirror, not flowing in the blood like a virus.

Why would that make a difference? We're not talking about someone who has had the taint for years or even a Grey Warden who's undergone a magical ritual that introduced a massive amount of taint to their body and bound it with lyrium, but someone newly infected.

Why couldn't Merrill's blood magic clean the taint from Bethany or Carver's body when they first get infected?


If I have a drop of blood with AIDS on my arm, I'd wash it off and be ok. Same if it was on an object. If I have my entire blood infected by AIDS, flowing in my heart and veins, there's no going back. You can't wash that off. It's inside, and flowing.




Ew. Why AIDS?

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm sure Merrill's blood magic could turn Bethany/Carver into a nice, untainted, abomination.



Um... Right... How exactly do you figure that would happen?


Merrill asks her "spirit" how to fix Hawke's sibling, "spirit" gives her a method which will leave them open to possession - we know blood magic can turn people into abominations, even non-mages.

But mostly it was a joke.

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Wulfram wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Wulfram wrote...

I'm sure Merrill's blood magic could turn Bethany/Carver into a nice, untainted, abomination.



Um... Right... How exactly do you figure that would happen?


Merrill asks her "spirit" how to fix Hawke's sibling, "spirit" gives her a method which will leave them open to possession - we know blood magic can turn people into abominations, even non-mages.

But mostly it was a joke.




Heh, the internets makes tone of voice hard to decipher Posted Image

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Oh I thought when you meant they were a GW. I dont know though, Im sure that would require a lot of power. Shes gunna need to slit her wrists real deep for that.


She can tap my Lady Hawke for a pint.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Oh I thought when you meant they were a GW. I dont know though, Im sure that would require a lot of power. Shes gunna need to slit her wrists real deep for that.


She can tap my Lady Hawke for a pint.



Well, she cleansed a mirror that sucked people into it and tainted them, all on her petite lonesome. Makes you think she'd be able to cure somebody who was tainted, especially if she was right in the Deep Roads with them when you found out.

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TMA LIVE wrote...

If I have a drop of blood with AIDS on my arm, I'd wash it off and be ok. Same if it was on an object. If I have my entire blood infected by AIDS, flowing in my heart and veins, there's no going back. You can't wash that off. It's inside, and flowing.


A drop of blood can't have AIDS. A drop of blood can have HIV. In fact, a person doesn't get AIDS until they've been infected with HIV for several years, newly infected people in modern countries being able to live 15-20 years before they develop AIDS.

The problem with HIV is not that it's in your blood but that it nests in the organs of your immune system. If it were possible to screen for the presence of HIV in the 24-hour period right after infection, treatment would be far more effective. Unfortunately, it's only going to show up after 3-6 months when HIV-specific white blood cells start appear in blood tests.

A doctor only knows a patient has HIV months after they're infected.

However, there are post-infection treatments that appear to work. HIV appears to be curable, but the window of opportunity for a cure to function is very narrow and the success rate is only 30-40%.

Which leads us back to Merrill and the mirror. What Merrill does is more complex than 'washing it off.' She's systemically removing the taint after the mirror shard has been infected for over a year.

Moreover, we know that at least one Grey Warden has had the taint removed due to magic.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 06 avril 2011 - 09:19 .


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Got a science lesson here.

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Which makes it much less complicated to cure a creature of the Taint than an ancient magical object, particularly if the creature has only been recently infected. Besides, while the Taint takes a toll on the creature it infests, their blood still runs red. They aren't nearly as contaminated as something like Darkspawn, whereas I get the feeling the Mirror was quite tainted. Which should make them easier to cure.

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Actually, even Flemeth says that the only cure she knows of for the blight is to become a GW. If she cant do it, then I doubt Merrill can.

(Unless Flemeth was lying)

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Somebody wrote...

Got a science lesson here.



inorite?


Flemeth does lie a lot. She doesn't even use blood magic, does she? Probably something nobody else knows, that makes BM look crude. Still, BM is a lot more intimately connected to life just because it's blood.

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DoNotIngest wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Got a science lesson here.



inorite?


Flemeth does lie a lot. She doesn't even use blood magic, does she? Probably something nobody else knows, that makes BM look crude. Still, BM is a lot more intimately connected to life just because it's blood.

Isnt she an abomination of sorts? I cant imagine that she has never used blood magic before in her centuries of life. 

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So long story short Merrill can cure AIDs, she is just that powerful.

Also I should really give up on photoshop. One of the ways the game can end is with Hawke, Merrill, and Isabela as pirates. In a sleep deprived state of mild inspiration I imagined they'd have a brilliant Jolly Roger-esque pirate flag of Merrill depicted from straight on, her tattoos, hair, and eyes in black and the rest of her face in white with the crossbones replaced by a crossed staff and cutlass. After sleeping I tried to make this in photoshop. Not being artistically inclined I screwed that up. This post is just me regretting having wasted two hours and to put forward the idea of the Merrill pirate flag because it still sounds pretty cool.

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Somebody wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Got a science lesson here.



inorite?


Flemeth does lie a lot. She doesn't even use blood magic, does she? Probably something nobody else knows, that makes BM look crude. Still, BM is a lot more intimately connected to life just because it's blood.

Isnt she an abomination of sorts? I cant imagine that she has never used blood magic before in her centuries of life. 


Flemeth was also talking about the taint being helped for a person, not an object. Besides, she tends to be very selective in the information she gives.

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MasterSamson88 wrote...

Somebody wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

Somebody wrote...

Got a science lesson here.



inorite?


Flemeth does lie a lot. She doesn't even use blood magic, does she? Probably something nobody else knows, that makes BM look crude. Still, BM is a lot more intimately connected to life just because it's blood.

Isnt she an abomination of sorts? I cant imagine that she has never used blood magic before in her centuries of life. 


Flemeth was also talking about the taint being helped for a person, not an object. Besides, she tends to be very selective in the information she gives.

I was referring to Maria's comment on Beth/Carver being cured of the taint, not the mirror. And like I said, maybe Flemeth was lying, but I dont know. Would be interesting if it could be done though.

Modifié par Somebody, 06 avril 2011 - 09:49 .