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[Emperor Iaius I]

Drakes don't have wings, though. Moreover, mature drakes apparently lose their vestigial forepaws. I mean, if you compare the archdemon to the high dragon (aside from their size, which is a gameplay thing I'm sure, since they wanted to use the same animation skeleton), you can see how the physical features of the high dragon correspond to those of the tainted archdemon, just as those of a hurlock match a human or a shriek matches an elf. They're less extreme because the archdemon is a tainted old god, rather than something born of a broodmother.

I would really love to see what an uncorrupted old god looks like.

I have lots of odd ponderings about the dragons and things that don't quite make sense. Drakescale, dragonbone, and dragonscale armor make sense, but where does the dragonskin come from? Where do dragons have skin? They have scales, except perhaps around the eyes and other, err, sensitive places. . . . yeah, I think I just now realized the scary implications of that.

[DalishRanger]

^ All good points. I really don't know, then. Best I can explain is an oversight on the design/lore on the developers' part.

[Maria Caliban]

DoNotIngest wrote...

See? This is why Merrill and her thread are the best character and thread. The closest to that that's been posted is at least artsilly done, and doesn't come off as, ah.... Naughty.

This thread is as chaste as an intangible object can be.

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

It's also just weird how she's shyly looking away at one point, and then hungrily kissing Hawke the next. I expected her to be more demure, but then it's entirely possible she has that weird librarian thing going on. I always found that archetype to be creepy, though.

I am not sure what weird librarian thing you're referring to. I can see her as pre-modern librarian type as she's scholarly. Is that what you mean?

The kiss felt right to me. I consider Merrill a slow burn and the game seems to support this given that she'll express interest in Hawke indirectly in Act 1 but apparently doesn't express it directly until much later.

Then again, I see Merrill as being all sorts of passionate. She's probably been thinking about/wanting that kiss for a long time before she's able to gather her courage and talk to Hawke.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 avril 2011 - 04:43 .

[Maria Caliban]

DoNotIngest wrote...

EDIT @ Dalish: I don't mind the pencil thin eyebrows. If Merrill had big fuzzy caterpillars, I'd cry into my pillow until 3am every night for a year and a day

Merrill does have fuzzy eyebrows. I believe she's the only woman in the game with that trait. They are thin, though.

broutefoin wrote...

I know where it is gotten, (on the Loose, Emile Delauncet)  but I've never actually heard it, any video laying around? 

which option prompts this responce?

thanks.

It's supposed to be tied to the aggressive response but you can get it for any of them if you don't have any other companions that interject during the conversation with you.

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Drakescale, dragonbone, and dragonscale armor make sense, but where does the dragonskin come from? Where do dragons have skin? They have scales, except perhaps around the eyes and other, err, sensitive places. . . . yeah, I think I just now realized the scary implications of that.

Probably the belly, especially for immature dragons.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 avril 2011 - 04:53 .

[DoNotIngest]

Flaw fetish, eh?  I see where you're coming from. I enjoy giving my characters at least one nearly caricaturely stand-out feature; My huge-nosed, squinty-eyed, huge-eyebrowed blackbeard dwarf tank in DAO was very fun. I don't however think of them as flaws, as much as I just have a fondness for my funny-looking compadrés.


Neither Garrett nor Marian are perfect! Just look at those large, red, stylish birthmarks across their noses!



Edit: Two people have fallen prey to my wording mistake, so I think I'll fix it. I had meant to say I don't mind pencil thin eyebrows, not that Merrill had them; They're thin, but it goes along nicely with the rest of her lithe form. Sorry about that

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 10 avril 2011 - 04:50 .

[Paraxial]

Bible Doctor wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
There's really not nearly enough Merrill/Lady Hawke artwork.

There's really not nearly enough Merrill/Male Hawke artwork.

Oh shi-

[DalishRanger]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Flaw fetish, eh?  I see where you're coming from. I enjoy giving my characters at least one nearly caricaturely stand-out feature; My huge-nosed, squinty-eyed, huge-eyebrowed blackbeard dwarf tank in DAO was very fun. I don't however think of them as flaws, as much as I just have a fondness for my funny-looking compadrés.

Heh! Not really a fetish, as it's not a "turn on" to me. Just something I think makes character creation more fun and interesting to play with. Like how in my head!canon, my main Warden was a chubby mage - he spent more time on his studies and reading, so he has a rubbish physique. And he's terrified of combat, which makes sense to me for someone who's a shut-in bookworm. Takes him a long time to get used to fighting, and he never likes it. Made him a blast to play though - I actually had him fleeing in circles during the Kocari Wilds and parts of the Battle at Ostagar.

There's a fine line between little flaws and over-the-top, though. I don't tend to like excessively broody characters, for instance. I do like Fenris, but not because he's "mysterious" or his brooding is attractive. I like him because he's such an unbelieveable ass that it's hilarious. Plus, he's so super serious that I find it makes him an easy target for laughs. So... I like him as the butt of jokes, I guess would be more appropriate to say.

DoNotIngest wrote...
Edit: Two people have fallen prey to my wording mistake, so I think I'll fix it. I had meant to say I don't mind pencil thin eyebrows, not that Merrill had them; They're thin, but it goes along nicely with the rest of her lithe form. Sorry about that

S'ok. I agree with you on that. While perhaps a tad short, it's a very, very minor nitpick on my part and I really do think they suit her. I just don't have as much fun drawing them as I do drawing eyebrows on people like my male Hawkes or Fenris. xD

Edit: @Bible Doctor: That's one of the m!Hawke/Merrill fan arts I was referring to.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 10 avril 2011 - 05:02 .

[Blackout62]

Transitioning from a reasonable discussion over the value of nude art to preferences over eyebrows, I love this thread.

There really is a lack of good M Hawke/Merrill art though. Oh well I'll just wait till some skilled artist does entirely by accident a piece of fanart with Merrill and a male Hawke thats just similiar enough to the one I'm using.

Modifié par Blackout62, 10 avril 2011 - 05:02 .

[DalishRanger]

Blackout62 wrote...
Transitioning from a reasonable discussion over the value of nude art to preferences over eyebrows, I love this thread.

Hey, our eyebrow discussion was perfectly reasonable! xD And totally Merrill related. Sort of.

Blackout62 wrote...
There really is a lack of good M Hawke/Merrill art though. Oh well I'll just wait till some skilled artist does entirely by accident a piece of fanart with Merrill and a male Hawke tha'st just similiar enough to the one I'm using.

Or, if you have the sovereigns to spare, you can commission an artist to draw your Hawke and Merrill.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 10 avril 2011 - 05:04 .

[Emperor Iaius I]

Maria Caliban wrote...
I am not sure what weird librarian thing you're referring to. I can see her as pre-modern librarian type as she's scholarly. Is that what you mean?

The kiss felt right to me. I consider Merrill a slow burn and the game seems to support this given that she'll express interest in Hawke indirectly in Act 1 but apparently doesn't express it directly until much later.

Then again, I see Merrill as being all sorts of passionate. She's probably been thinking about/wanting that kiss for a long time before she's able to gather her courage and talk to Hawke.

The stereotype of shy librarians who are secret nymphos. It's tedious.

She could be passionate and probably has been thinking about it for a while, but I'd think she'd still be awkward/tentative about it all instead of making out right away.

Maria Caliban wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Drakescale, dragonbone, and dragonscale armor make sense, but where does the dragonskin come from? Where do dragons have skin? They have scales, except perhaps around the eyes and other, err, sensitive places. . . . yeah, I think I just now realized the scary implications of that.

Probably the belly, especially for immature dragons.

Wade's Dragonskin armor comes only from the High Dragon--so I can't imagine that she has a soft underbelly. From what I remember about reptiles (though I could be wrong), they do still have scales there.

[mesmerizedish]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill does have fuzzy eyebrows. I believe she's the only woman in the game with that trait. They are thin, though.

I think Bethany has some pretty fuzzy eyebrows. I like 'em a lot

Bible Doctor wrote...

Oh shi-

That's adorable in a really creepy way. Or creepy in a really adorable way. That... style... that looks like the same artistic style as the movie Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs gives me the heebie-jeebies. BUT IT'S STILL SO CUTE.

[DoNotIngest]

"Transitioning from a reasonable discussion over the value of nude art to preferences over eyebrows, I love this thread.

There really is a lack of good M Hawke/Merrill art though. Oh well I'll just wait till some skilled artist does entirely by accident a piece of fanart with Merrill and a male Hawke thats just similiar enough to the one I'm using."


You're just jealous of my bushy/thin hybrid eyebrows.

DalishRanger wrote...

Blackout62 wrote...
Transitioning from a reasonable discussion over the value of nude art to preferences over eyebrows, I love this thread.

Hey, our eyebrow discussion was perfectly reasonable! xD And totally Merrill related. Sort of.

Blackout62 wrote...
There really is a lack of good M Hawke/Merrill art though. Oh well I'll just wait till some skilled artist does entirely by accident a piece of fanart with Merrill and a male Hawke tha'st just similiar enough to the one I'm using.

Or, if you have the sovereigns to spare, you can commission an artist to draw your Hawke and Merrill.

I'll pay you 1000 words of tired-mindedly written Merrill&MaleHawke fanfic for a sketch


For some reason, I can't help but imagine Cueball with enormous, Gandalf-rivaling eyebrows, and Merrill scurrying back to the Nobles' garden and planting a purple flower in each of them...

[DalishRanger]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
I think Bethany has some pretty fuzzy eyebrows. I like 'em a lot

Which Bethany? Default one? Because I had a few Bethanys with thin eyebrows.

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
That's adorable in a really creepy way. Or creepy in a really adorable way. That... style... that looks like the same artistic style as the movie Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs gives me the heebie-jeebies. BUT IT'S STILL SO CUTE.

That's why her style always seemed familiar to me! Huh! It's true, she does draw a lot like that movie looks. She's done a ton of DA fan art, but I wouldn't count on too much DA2 stuff from her. Merrill's the only thing she liked about the game.

...

Which still might work in favor of thise thread.

Edit:

DoNotIngest wrote...
You're just jealous of my bushy/thin hybrid eyebrows.

Combo attack!

DoNotIngest wrote...
I'll pay you 1000 words of tired-mindedly written Merrill&MaleHawke fanfic for a sketch ../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png

If I could pay website fees in words, I'd take you up on that. But alas, I can't, so my commissions cost actual, real-world money. Sketches come pretty cheap, though.

DoNotIngest wrote...
For
some reason, I can't help but imagine Cueball with enormous,
Gandalf-rivaling eyebrows, and Merrill scurrying back to the Nobles'
garden and planting a purple flower in each of them...

As amusing as that mental image is... Nah, his eyebrows aren't super bushy. Maybe a bit thick, but I consider them pretty average for an adult man. My main Shepard probably has the bushiest eyebrows out of my video game PCs.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 10 avril 2011 - 05:18 .

[mesmerizedish]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...
I am not sure what weird librarian thing you're referring to. I can see her as pre-modern librarian type as she's scholarly. Is that what you mean?

The kiss felt right to me. I consider Merrill a slow burn and the game seems to support this given that she'll express interest in Hawke indirectly in Act 1 but apparently doesn't express it directly until much later.

Then again, I see Merrill as being all sorts of passionate. She's probably been thinking about/wanting that kiss for a long time before she's able to gather her courage and talk to Hawke.

The stereotype of shy librarians who are secret nymphos. It's tedious.

She could be passionate and probably has been thinking about it for a while, but I'd think she'd still be awkward/tentative about it all instead of making out right away.

Thought I'd chime in on this... I think Merrill is in front of a sort of wall of inhibition and uncertainty... but once Hawke affirms her affection, that wall comes crashing down pretty quickly. Merrill's all tentative up until the point Hawke says there's no reason to be, and then she's all free with her affections. It's really sweet, I think.

[EDIT] @Dalish: yes, default Bethany. All my previous playthroughs have had default siblings. My current one isn't, but it's a mage. So, I'm not familiar with the other Bethanies. But default Bethany has the cutest catterpillar eyebrows.

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 10 avril 2011 - 05:14 .

[Paraxial]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

That's adorable in a really creepy way. Or creepy in a really adorable way. 

You use the word 'creepy' qutie a bit, and at times when it means different things in your sentences. It's like reading one of those ransom letters with the random assortment of letters from magazines and articles, something like that.

[DoNotIngest]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill does have fuzzy eyebrows. I believe she's the only woman in the game with that trait. They are thin, though.

I think Bethany has some pretty fuzzy eyebrows. I like 'em a lot

Bible Doctor wrote...

Oh shi-

That's adorable in a really creepy way. Or creepy in a really adorable way. That... style... that looks like the same artistic style as the movie Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs gives me the heebie-jeebies. BUT IT'S STILL SO CUTE.

If I was judging it (Great, now I'm judging it...), I'd have to say she looks a little too... Little-girlish, for my taste. I can still enjoy the art and appreciate the work that went into it, but if I was asked for constructive criticism, I'd have some


"The stereotype of shy librarians who are secret nymphos. It's tedious.

She could be passionate and probably has been thinking about it for a while, but I'd think she'd still be awkward/tentative about it all instead of making out right away."


I liked the kiss more than the actual sex scene. I don't think Merrill would have taken it that far, though I can see some kissing and cuddling in that one visit. I'm dreading having to write about it, as I'll have to come up with something more.... Merrill-y, than the game's version. And I'm not Merrill.

And how dare you call her a librarian!  (<--- change to an angry devil)


EDIT: Ish, there's something to think about. I like this thread, it's helpful 

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 10 avril 2011 - 05:18 .

[mesmerizedish]

Bible Doctor wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

That's adorable in a really creepy way. Or creepy in a really adorable way. 

You use the word 'creepy' qutie a bit, and at times when it means different things in your sentences. It's like reading one of those ransom letters with the random assortment of letters from magazines and articles, something like that.

It's one of my favorite words. Creepy, regnant, and portmanteau. There are others, but those are the ones that come to mind.

[EDIT] I don't think I use it to mean different things, though...

Modifié par ishmaeltheforsaken, 10 avril 2011 - 05:18 .

[Esbatty]

Mini-Hawke #1: Mama! Mama!
Merrill: What is it da'len?
Mini-Hawke #1: Brother got a cut on his finger and he's waving it at me!
Hawke/Merrill: NO BLOOD MAGIC!
Mini-Hawke #2: Aww.

Modifié par Esbatty, 10 avril 2011 - 05:17 .

[Maria Caliban]

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

The stereotype of shy librarians who are secret nymphos. It's tedious.

I've never seen that outside of pr0n, but all women are nymphos in pr0n.

She could be passionate and probably has been thinking about it for a while, but I'd think she'd still be awkward/tentative about it all instead of making out right away.

I agree that sex would come later. But hot, passionate kissing? She'd be all over that.

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Wade's Dragonskin armor comes only from the High Dragon--so I can't imagine that she has a soft underbelly. From what I remember about reptiles (though I could be wrong), they do still have scales there.

Perhaps it's simply like snakeskin. Scale treated until it's relatively smooth to the touch.

[Blackout62]

DoNotIngest wrote...

"Transitioning from a reasonable discussion over the value of nude art to preferences over eyebrows, I love this thread.

There really is a lack of good M Hawke/Merrill art though. Oh well I'll just wait till some skilled artist does entirely by accident a piece of fanart with Merrill and a male Hawke thats just similiar enough to the one I'm using."


You're just jealous of my bushy/thin hybrid eyebrows.

Oh I have eyebrows you'd be envious of.

DoNotIngest wrote...

DalishRanger wrote...

Blackout62 wrote...
There really is a lack of good M Hawke/Merrill art though. Oh well I'll just wait till some skilled artist does entirely by accident a piece of fanart with Merrill and a male Hawke tha'st just similiar enough to the one I'm using.

Or, if you have the sovereigns to spare, you can commission an artist to draw your Hawke and Merrill.

I'll pay you 1000 words of tired-mindedly written Merrill&MaleHawke fanfic for a sketch


For some reason, I can't help but imagine Cueball with enormous, Gandalf-rivaling eyebrows, and Merrill scurrying back to the Nobles' garden and planting a purple flower in each of them...

Wait we can pay for art commisions in sleep-deprived rushed fanfic, because it's 10:00 where I am, I have a 4 page paper to write, and would much rather write fan fiction. (Stupid DAII,making me give in and finally start writing fan fiction. Great practice though.)

Modifié par Blackout62, 10 avril 2011 - 05:20 .

[DalishRanger]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...
[EDIT] @Dalish: yes, default Bethany. All my previous playthroughs have had default siblings. My current one isn't, but it's a mage. So, I'm not familiar with the other Bethanies. But default Bethany has the cutest catterpillar eyebrows.

Ah, okay. Then I agree! My only play with default!Bethany is Kenley's though, which means she gets smooshed very quick.

DoNotIngest wrote...
I liked the kiss more than the actual sex scene.

I liked the whole scene, but I agree - I think I liked the kiss best.

Blackout62 wrote...
Oh I have eyebrows you'd be envious of.

/Now quite intrigued

Blackout62 wrote...
Wait we can pay for art commisions in sleep-deprived rushed fanfic, because it's 10:00 where I am, I have a 4 page paper to write, and would much rather write fan fiction. (Stupid DAII,making me give in and finally start writing fan fiction. Great practice though.)

See my previous post for the answer to that.

Modifié par DalishRanger, 10 avril 2011 - 05:23 .

[DoNotIngest]

Psh! My eyebrows are GLORIOUS! I can give an incredulous expression to make Isabella blush!


Yes, we can commision art for rushed literature! What a great world we live in...


EDIT to Dalish: I don't know, it just seems like there's not near as much leadup to the pulling-onto-bed scene. I mean, it's the first time you've kissed the socially inept girl, and she's faithfully leading you to your own bed? What's going on?

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 10 avril 2011 - 05:24 .

[Blackout62]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Bible Doctor wrote...

You use the word 'creepy' qutie a bit, and at times when it means different things in your sentences. It's like reading one of those ransom letters with the random assortment of letters from magazines and articles, something like that.

It's one of my favorite words. Creepy, regnant, and portmanteau. There are others, but those are the ones that come to mind.

[EDIT] I don't think I use it to mean different things, though...

Creepy regnant portmanteau...

Creepnant?

[Paraxial]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

It's one of my favorite words. Creepy, regnant, and portmanteau.

Well, that's creepy.

Incessant is my favorite word.

Esbatty wrote...

Mini-Hawke #1: Mama! Mama!
Merrill: What is it da'len?
Mini-Hawke #1: Brother got a cut on his finger and he's waving it at me!
Hawke/Merrill: NO BLOOD MAGIC!
Mini-Hawke #2: Aww.

Overload, overload.

Bunch of little half elf babies runnin' around.

Modifié par Bible Doctor, 10 avril 2011 - 05:25 .

[Maria Caliban]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Merrill does have fuzzy eyebrows. I believe she's the only woman in the game with that trait. They are thin, though.

I think Bethany has some pretty fuzzy eyebrows. I like 'em a lot

I see she does. As opposed to her (default) sister's perfectly plucked and waxed ones.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 10 avril 2011 - 05:26 .