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[silver-crescent]

It might be "Frederick" based on some Awakening convos.

[bleetman]

silver-crescent wrote...

Well yeah but she was with the Fereldan dalish, I'd assumed she'd just been born in the clan.

Merrill mentions that (at four years old, I believe) she was sent to Marethari's clan in order to provide a child of magical talent which could become First to the Keeper. Dalish born with magic are apparently becoming rarer and rarer.

Which, I imagine, is why Mahariel's parents weren't approved of.

[silver-crescent]

She does? Does that only happen when you romance her or something? I never got that dialogue.

[bleetman]

She briefly mentions leaving her own clan in one of her banters with Bethany, and that Dalish children with magic are sometimes sent to another clan in another. As for the age, I don't remember where I picked that up from, perhaps I'm wrong about it.

Bethany: So, is the Keeper... your mother?
Merrill: I left my clan when I was a child to become Marethari's First. I haven't seen my parents in more than ten years.
Bethany: I'm so sorry! My father died in the Blight. You must really miss them.
Merrill: I remember my mother singing to me, when I was a little girl when I'd get sick. I think that's what I miss the most. The Keeper has a terrible singing voice.

Modifié par bleetman, 23 avril 2011 - 01:08 .

[Big_Chief]

I believe her codex entry mentions she left at four years old.

[bleetman]

Ah, so it does.

As each generation passes, magic becomes more rare among the Dalish. As the gift dies out, talented children are moved between clans so that every Keeper has a successor, and no clan is in danger of being left without guidance.

Merrill was born to the Alerion clan, which wandered the hills of Nevarra. She was the third child of the clan with the ancient gift born to her--when the next Arlathvenn (gathering of the clans) occurred, she was given to the Sabrae clan to be First to Keeper Marethari. Merrill was just four years old.

She spent most of her life in Ferelden and the Korcari Wilds until her clan was driven north by the Blight.

[silver-crescent]

Oh. I'm pretty sure I read all the codices, but it's been a while so I ended up forgetting that detail

[_Somebody]

bleetman wrote...

She briefly mentions leaving her own clan in one of her banters with Bethany, and that Dalish children with magic are sometimes sent to another clan in another. As for the age, I don't remember where I picked that up from, perhaps I'm wrong about it.

Bethany: So, is the Keeper... your mother?
Merrill: I left my clan when I was a child to become Marethari's First. I haven't seen my parents in more than ten years.
Bethany: I'm so sorry! My father died in the Blight. You must really miss them.
Merrill: I remember my mother singing to me, when I was a little girl when I'd get sick. I think that's what I miss the most. The Keeper has a terrible singing voice.

Wait, so how long before the battle of Ostagar did papa Hawke die?

[mesmerizedish]

Wait, so... Merrill would have been given to Marethari at a gathering of the clans. Those happen every ten years, right? She would have seen her parents again at 14. That makes her at least 24 when she has that conversation with Bethany.

Child my ass. She's almost certainly older than Hawke, no matter how old Hawke is.

[_Somebody]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Wait, so... Merrill would have been given to Marethari at a gathering of the clans. Those happen every ten years, right? She would have seen her parents again at 14. That makes her at least 24 when she has that conversation with Bethany.

Child my ass. She's almost certainly older than Hawke, no matter how old Hawke is.

Well do we know how much older Hawke is than Beth or Carver?

[Lenimph]

Somebody wrote...

bleetman wrote...

She briefly mentions leaving her own clan in one of her banters with Bethany, and that Dalish children with magic are sometimes sent to another clan in another. As for the age, I don't remember where I picked that up from, perhaps I'm wrong about it.

Bethany: So, is the Keeper... your mother?
Merrill: I left my clan when I was a child to become Marethari's First. I haven't seen my parents in more than ten years.
Bethany: I'm so sorry! My father died in the Blight. You must really miss them.
Merrill: I remember my mother singing to me, when I was a little girl when I'd get sick. I think that's what I miss the most. The Keeper has a terrible singing voice.

Wait, so how long before the battle of Ostagar did papa Hawke die?

3 years before the beggining of the game.

And Hawke is atleast 2 years older then the twins. So Hawke is probably 20/21 at the beginning of the game. SO Merrill is older.

Modifié par Lenimph, 23 avril 2011 - 01:42 .

[silver-crescent]

We know that the last time Gamlen saw Hawke, (s)he was still a baby, and that their grandfather died 1 week after the twins were born. Do we have get to know how much time passes between those 2 events?

[TheBlackBaron]

bleetman wrote...

Ah, so it does.

As each generation passes, magic becomes more rare among the Dalish. As the gift dies out, talented children are moved between clans so that every Keeper has a successor, and no clan is in danger of being left without guidance.

Merrill was born to the Alerion clan, which wandered the hills of Nevarra. She was the third child of the clan with the ancient gift born to her--when the next Arlathvenn (gathering of the clans) occurred, she was given to the Sabrae clan to be First to Keeper Marethari. Merrill was just four years old.

She spent most of her life in Ferelden and the Korcari Wilds until her clan was driven north by the Blight.

Just more incentive to see Nevarra in a future game. I think they've replaced Rivain as the nation I most want to see after Tevinter, followed by the Anderfels. 

[Paraxial]

Somebody wrote...
Well do we know how much older Hawke is than Beth or Carver?

I'm fairly certain we don't. I always have, and always will, picture Merrill and Hawke at roughly the exact same age.

[halokitty]

Wow... It's really hard seeing Merrill as four years older than Hawker, or even Bethany. Maybe her social awkwardness and unfamiliarity with humans accounts for her seeming much younger.

[_Somebody]

Lenimph wrote...

Somebody wrote...

bleetman wrote...

She briefly mentions leaving her own clan in one of her banters with Bethany, and that Dalish children with magic are sometimes sent to another clan in another. As for the age, I don't remember where I picked that up from, perhaps I'm wrong about it.

Bethany: So, is the Keeper... your mother?
Merrill: I left my clan when I was a child to become Marethari's First. I haven't seen my parents in more than ten years.
Bethany: I'm so sorry! My father died in the Blight. You must really miss them.
Merrill: I remember my mother singing to me, when I was a little girl when I'd get sick. I think that's what I miss the most. The Keeper has a terrible singing voice.

Wait, so how long before the battle of Ostagar did papa Hawke die?

3 years before the beggining of the game.

And Hawke is 2 years older then the twins. So Hawke is 20 at the beginning of the game. SO Merrill is older.

When do we hear that Hawke is 2 years older?

[Blackout62]

Lenimph wrote...
SO Merrill is older.

Well, that changes, everything.  Excuse me I have some fan fiction to re-write.

Modifié par Blackout62, 23 avril 2011 - 01:44 .

[Lenimph]

Sorry I meant to write atleast....

Gamlen says Leandra left with Malcolm 25 years ago and it is an assumption that Leandra was not pregnant when they left.

You could push Hawks age to 24 but you should take into account how long it takes to properly settle and immigrate to a new place.  Merrill is definitely older then Hawke though, which doesn't bother me I like them older 

Modifié par Lenimph, 23 avril 2011 - 01:47 .

[TEWR]

Blackout62 wrote...

Lenimph wrote...
SO Merrill is older.

Well, that changes, everything.  Excuse me I have some fan fiction to re-write.

Any fanfic that involves Merrill is one I want to read.


Actually, anything that involves Merrill is something I must read/see/what-have-you

[Zjarcal]

Who cares one bit if Merrill is older than Hawke? It's irrelevant as far as how it affects the relationship they have.

[Lenimph]

bleetman wrote...
Which, I imagine, is why Mahariel's parents weren't approved of.

They were of two different clans... it didn't have to do with magic  
If elves with magic could only screw other elves with magic you would have the keeper ... marrying other keepers... which isn't how it works. 

[hoorayforicecream]

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Wait, so... Merrill would have been given to Marethari at a gathering of the clans. Those happen every ten years, right? She would have seen her parents again at 14. That makes her at least 24 when she has that conversation with Bethany.

Child my ass. She's almost certainly older than Hawke, no matter how old Hawke is.

Unless she's 14 when she joins Hawke's group... 

[Big_Chief]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

ishmaeltheforsaken wrote...

Wait, so... Merrill would have been given to Marethari at a gathering of the clans. Those happen every ten years, right? She would have seen her parents again at 14. That makes her at least 24 when she has that conversation with Bethany.

Child my ass. She's almost certainly older than Hawke, no matter how old Hawke is.

Unless she's 14 when she joins Hawke's group... 

Awkwaaaaaard.

[Lenimph]

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Unless she's 14 when she joins Hawke's group... 

This can't be true because before Marethari was keeper Mahariels father was. Merrill was given to Marethari and she had to have gone to the gathering when she was 14 because Mahariel went as well (for she is recognized by Valenna and Varathorn's clan)

Does that make sense outside of my brain... *has a Merrill moment*

Modifié par Lenimph, 23 avril 2011 - 02:09 .

[TEWR]

Lenimph wrote...

hoorayforicecream wrote...

Unless she's 14 when she joins Hawke's group... 

This can't be true because before Marethari was keeper Mahariels father was. Merrill was given to Marethari and she had to have gone to the gathering when she was 14 because Mahariel went as well (for she is recognized by Valenna and Varathorn's clan)

Does that make sense outside of my brain... *has a Merrill moment*

damn.... ninja'd