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[AgelessTimeless]

Personally I don't take anything Fenris says seriously, he's an emo animeish character who wears spikey armor and has way too much angst. I have wanted to off him quite a few times already

[Stigandr Ogaefa]

Just one this one on DA
http://bagoflimbs.deviantart.com/

[AgelessTimeless]

The tool gives 15 rivalry and unless friendship is maxed it converts all friendship points to rivalry points if you don't give it to her.

[SilentK]

AgelessTimeless wrote...

The tool gives 15 rivalry and unless friendship is maxed it converts all friendship points to rivalry points if you don't give it to her.

Hmm.... I guess I've been middling it a bit too much... oh well. I guess I'll just hunt for the tomes. Thanks anyways   =)

[AgelessTimeless]

Glad that I could help.

[christrek1982]

Waning incoming rant

and I know this has likeley be discussed to death but hear I go


I have had the urge to read some Merrill fan fic for some reason, not something that I normally do but just wanted more Merrill. What can I say? that girl has stolen my heart and hasent given it back and plus the ending of the game left me wanting to know what happened with Hawke and Merrill?

Anyway I've been looking all over the net for more Merrill centric fic and I’m not having any luck but what I have found is that people hater her and in some cases it can be quite bigoted things like “she's stupid for wanting to fix the mirror” or “she's a blood mage Arg run away.”

on the other had characters like anders Fenris and Isabella have taken of like fire in a straw hut why? Whats the appeal?

Lets look at these people shall we

Anders is a abomination and he can,t see that himself then spend the whole game preaching how Merrill is a fool for working with a demon and how Mages are the victims in all of this then manipulates Hawke into helping him blow up the cahanrey (Dude you have just invalidated you own argument)

Fenris is someone with no empathy blurting out hate and malice any chance he gets regardless of the situation (see any of Merrill personal quests) and then is quite happy to rip out someone heart if they look at him funny

and finally Isabella OK shes ok I suppose and she dose try to redeem herself but the effort falls flat on it's face when she lets a notorious slaver go just to get his ship.

Then you have Merrill. Her mirror harms no one other than herself she is willing to take all the risk I mean she see's the danger of what she is doing after all she dose ask you to kill her if thing go wrong.

She sees the danger of dealing with daemons even if that self assured prat anders doesn’t and her argument about the blood magic is logical and level headed (if you hit you thumb with a hamer do you blame the hammer?)

Anyway sorry about that just wanted to rant and vent

hope you all have grate Easter holls and such and thanks for reading

[AgelessTimeless]

You won't get any disagreement from me on that. She is an awesome character in my opinion. Which is why I am involved in this thread lol.

[christrek1982]

Stigandr Ogaefa wrote...

Just one this one on DA
http://bagoflimbs.deviantart.com/

Grate stuff we need more of this sort of thing :happy:

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Loving the Merrill fanart.

I love how one can find new things to love about Merrill each play though. 2day for the first time tried to make Merrill unlock doors and she said "um no, definitely not, ever!" I loled so hard

Modifié par Sarcastic Tasha, 24 avril 2011 - 07:03 .

[TheBlackBaron]

christrek1982 wrote...

Waning incoming rant

and I know this has likeley be discussed to death but hear I go


I have had the urge to read some Merrill fan fic for some reason, not something that I normally do but just wanted more Merrill. What can I say? that girl has stolen my heart and hasent given it back and plus the ending of the game left me wanting to know what happened with Hawke and Merrill?

Anyway I've been looking all over the net for more Merrill centric fic and I’m not having any luck but what I have found is that people hater her and in some cases it can be quite bigoted things like “she's stupid for wanting to fix the mirror” or “she's a blood mage Arg run away.”

on the other had characters like anders Fenris and Isabella have taken of like fire in a straw hut why? Whats the appeal?

*HYPOCRITICAL JUDGEMENT INC*

Put simply, Anders and Fenris are have the whole dark and broody and troubled thing going on that just makes certain people swoon all over them and defend them rabidly against any criticism. Troubled But Cute, as TV Tropes calls it. They're cut from the same cloth as Carth, Kaidan, even Garrus and Thane to some extent. Fortunately the latter two deal with it a lot better; Garrus is my absolute favorite character in ME. 

Isabela's actually in the same boat as Merrill, in my experience, there's quite a few people who deride her for having yo-yo knickers and make constant jokes about her having diseases. 

*END HYPOCRITICAL JUDGEMENT*

[AgelessTimeless]

Sarcastic Tasha wrote...

Loving the Merrill fanart.

I love how one can find new things to love about Merrill each play though. 2day for the first time tried to make Merrill unlock doors and she said "um no, definitely not, ever!" I loled so hard

That is true, always some awesome new things each playthrough.

Bringing her along on different quests with different other party members can net some wonderful dialogues.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Trying to rivalmance Merrill this time but can't help but agree with Merrill. I was listening to Anders telling her off for liking demons and wanting to punch him even though my current Hawke is supposed to be against her blood magic I still find myself agreeing with her. Role playing an anti blood mage Hawke is difficult.
Do you guys usually friend or rival Merrill?

[AgelessTimeless]

Always friend. I can't bring myself to disagree and I don't think she is wrong about the blood magic so... lol

[Knight of Dane]

I don't think i would ever rivalmance her.
I usually befriend her anyway because it's so dang easy.

Howver if i did play a Hawke against BM he/she would probably not be attracted to Merrill anyway.

The two last playtrhoughs has been m/romancing Isabela and f/romancing Anders, can't wait to do a Merrill Romance again this playthrough with the patch.

[BlueMew]

Hmm, just wondering (for my next playthrough); I want to be nice and sympathetic (ie a good friend) to Merrill, while still mildly slapping her in the face about the demon fetish. Last time I went friendship with her, and there was no option whatsoever to disagree with her on the demonic magic.

That would suggest rivalry, but then you'd pretty much have to be mean and mage-hating with her just being hissy at you. *Can* you actually be nice and disagree with her with her still liking you?

[AgelessTimeless]

Max friendship in act 1,

Then you can criticize within reason without penalty.

[Wissenschaft]

I rivalmance Merrill, the romance scene is better I think when your a rival. I can't support her gullibility when it comes to Demons. I would have romanced Isabela but Merrill is just too adorable to leave alone.

[BlueMew]

I mean without the romance
I want to be a proper friend, but apparently I cannot max out rivaly without being extremely mean to her and she to me.

Maybe the suggestion of maxing out friendship early would work, I'll have to check.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Going down the rival path with Merrill feels harsh. Even when my current Hawke should be agreeing with Anders about Merrill's blood magic I still find myself wanting to punch him.I might have been biased towards Merrill at the start though because of the welsh accent (I'm welsh too).

[AgelessTimeless]

I always end up romancing her. '^^

Too cute not to romance.

[rvayda141]

I heard that if you don't give Merrill the arulin'holm, but still have friendship with her, the friendship points you have switch to rivalry. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

[Big_Chief]

rvayda141 wrote...

I heard that if you don't give Merrill the arulin'holm, but still have friendship with her, the friendship points you have switch to rivalry. Anyone know if there's any truth to that?

Yes, if you aren't maxed at friendship (where it won't budge, ever), all of your friendship will be converted to rivalry, then it will +15 rivalry on top of that. At least, that's my understanding of the mechanics, and that seems to match up with my experience so far.

I like that, because I can rivalmance her without needing to support the templars or be a jerk to her.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Bum. I've already started down the pro templar path now. I don't really get how people can think Merrill is stupid and wrong about blood magic when there is no evidence to say blood magic is bad.

[AgelessTimeless]

I agree, blood magic is simply a tool, just like guns. Now it is notably a tool that has potential to be very harmful but there is nothing innately wrong with it.

Starting 4th playthrough now. lol

Modifié par AgelessTimeless, 24 avril 2011 - 08:33 .

[Sarcastic Tasha]

On my 3rd playthough and struggling to rival Merrill. I can easily roleplay a **** that turns Feynriel into an abomination but roleplaying a pro templar warrior that is harsh to Merrill makes me feel guilty.