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#12776
Fieryeel

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AgelessTimeless wrote...

Did anyone else glitch when they romanced her after getting her clothing upgrades and having the upgrades vanish?


Yes :(

I lost the rune slot. Wish there was some way to retrieve it.

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Fieryeel wrote...

AgelessTimeless wrote...

Did anyone else glitch when they romanced her after getting her clothing upgrades and having the upgrades vanish?


Yes :(

I lost the rune slot. Wish there was some way to retrieve it.


if youre playing on the PC, you can get it back with the command console and the Vaddin mod from this forum

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I am now just waiting till after I romance her to buy her the upgrade. It's the second thing that I do in act 2.... second mainly because the quest is not available until after Blackpowder courtesy

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I have an idea on how to do my next playthrough, and I want to share it with you guys:

This Hawke will be a warrior templar, and will side with the templars most of the time. However, he does not hate mages or magic, but he only trusts Bethany and Merrill. I plan to have him friendmance Merill, but will still warn her that messing with demons is bad, and hopes that she finds another way to fix it(of course, we know that can't happen.) What do you think?

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PseudoEthnic wrote...

I have an idea on how to do my next playthrough, and I want to share it with you guys:

This Hawke will be a warrior templar, and will side with the templars most of the time. However, he does not hate mages or magic, but he only trusts Bethany and Merrill. I plan to have him friendmance Merill, but will still warn her that messing with demons is bad, and hopes that she finds another way to fix it(of course, we know that can't happen.) What do you think?


So you're essentially playing Ser Thrask? I'd agree with the friendmance. Contrary to the specialization your Hawke wouldn't actually be a templar and also not being a mage wouldn't have the deepest understanding of the finer points of blood magic, the fade, or demons. Or at least that's how I'm justifying my rogue Hawke friendmancing Merrill. Well that and he's rather the libertine.

Modifié par Blackout62, 26 avril 2011 - 04:56 .


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PseudoEthnic

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Blackout62 wrote...

PseudoEthnic wrote...

I have an idea on how to do my next playthrough, and I want to share it with you guys:

This Hawke will be a warrior templar, and will side with the templars most of the time. However, he does not hate mages or magic, but he only trusts Bethany and Merrill. I plan to have him friendmance Merill, but will still warn her that messing with demons is bad, and hopes that she finds another way to fix it(of course, we know that can't happen.) What do you think?


So you're playing Ser Thrask? I'd agree with the friendmance though. Contrary to the specialization your Hawke wouldn't actually be a templar and also not being a mage wouldn't have the deepest understanding of the finer points of blood magic, the fade, or demons. Or at least that's how I'm justifying my rogue Hawke friendmancing Merrill. Well that and he's rather the libertine.

More or less.:P

I know my Hawke could never be a templar. I know it's just a specialization. Heck, the only time anyone ever notices your class spec is Merrill when she asks if you could heal Pol(you have to be a spirit healer.)

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Ooh is your Hawke going to enter act II with Bethany in the Circle and Hawke on a Thrask-y downward decline into a state of prostitutes and rash decision making that only averts an eventual demise by Hawke trusting the right blood mage whose sweet face and benevolence keeps him from falling?

And to get back on Merrill: That sweet face.

Modifié par Blackout62, 26 avril 2011 - 05:13 .


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Blackout62 wrote...

Ooh is your Hawke going to enter act II with Bethany in the Circle and Hawke on a Thrask-y downward decline into a state of prostitutes and rash decision making that only averts an eventual demise by Hawke trusting the right blood mage whose sweet face and benevolence keeps him from falling?

I was considering making Bethany a Grey Warden, but maybe her being a circle mage would be better for the story.

And to get back on Merrill: That sweet face.

*heart melts*:wub:


EDIT: When Hawke becomes viscount(ess), do they treat the remaining mages differently based on personality? If so, how does a sarcastic/charming Hawke treat them?

Modifié par PseudoEthnic, 26 avril 2011 - 05:24 .


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Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.

Modifié par Emperor Iaius I, 26 avril 2011 - 05:22 .


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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.


Yep, got that last game. I was, uh...rather surprised at that reaction. 

#12786
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TheBlackBaron wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.


Yep, got that last game. I was, uh...rather surprised at that reaction. 

Hawke: Isabela. Varric. Go to the mouth of the cave.
Varric: Hawke?
Hawke: Just go. Now.
Isabela: Why?
Merrill: *still in Hawke's face*
Hawke: I have to have her... right now.Posted Image

#12787
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Esbatty wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.


Yep, got that last game. I was, uh...rather surprised at that reaction. 

Hawke: Isabela. Varric. Go to the mouth of the cave.
Varric: Hawke?
Hawke: Just go. Now.
Isabela: Why?
Merrill: *still in Hawke's face*
Hawke: I have to have her... right now.Posted Image


With Pol's dead body right there? :blink:

#12788
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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.


Yup :D

Of course, I had to reload, because I didn't say what I had expected to say, but she was fierce.

#12789
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Merrill has to be the nicest companion in the game.

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

Hawke: Isabela. Varric. Go to the mouth of the cave.
Varric: Hawke?
Hawke: Just go. Now.
Isabela: Why?
Merrill: *still in Hawke's face*
Hawke: I have to have her... right now.Posted Image

With Pol's dead body right there? :blink:

Creepy Hawke is creepy.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 26 avril 2011 - 06:00 .


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I would normally object, but I fear esbatty's right on the money this time. I mean, wow. I couldn't even reload and try something else, I was just so impressed that I took the +25 rivalry hit.

You'd think I would get bored, but the more I play the more I'm impressed with how she was done. The writing, the voice acting, heck, the animating. Oh, she's just so excellent in Act 2. I'm not even to the romance in this playthrough, either.

It's also interesting to hear her explain her reasoning for repairing the eluvian, too. I hadn't participated in all these arguments the first time I rushed through the game, but after hearing those for context, I'm more convinced she made the right choice.

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TheBlackBaron wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

TheBlackBaron wrote...

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.


Yep, got that last game. I was, uh...rather surprised at that reaction. 

Hawke: Isabela. Varric. Go to the mouth of the cave.
Varric: Hawke?
Hawke: Just go. Now.
Isabela: Why?
Merrill: *still in Hawke's face*
Hawke: I have to have her... right now.Posted Image


With Pol's dead body right there? :blink:

Angry Hawke has no shame.

...

Seriously, I forgot about the whole reason she was angryPosted Image

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Whoa. Whoa.

Has anybody ever tried using the angry response when Merrill mourns over Pol and asks why he ran? Hawke calls him weak, and Merrill--Merril stands right up, gets up in Hawke's face, and basically calls you out. She says that he wasn't a coward, that it took courage for him to leave his old life, and that Hawke of all people should understand.

Whoa.

I am so proud of her.


Damn, I was gonna play a jerkish FemHawke who had a soft spot for children and strief ridden elves but the possibility of seeing angry Merrill. Screw it I can make an exception for Pol, I can always make an exception if it means I get to insult a Yuri Lowenthal character.

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Oh, I'm going the friendship route with Merrill (and rivalry with every single other person) but I'm still picking the mean responses. I just want to be in character.

Which character? This one.

Posted Image

Oh yeah.

#12794
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Blackout62 wrote...

Damn, I was gonna play a jerkish FemHawke who had a soft spot for children and strief ridden elves but the possibility of seeing angry Merrill. Screw it I can make an exception for Pol, I can always make an exception if it means I get to insult a Yuri Lowenthal character.


Angry Merrill can be pretty awesome, though. I still have a great big soft spot for Angry Morri. 

Emperor Iaius I wrote...

Oh, I'm going the friendship route with Merrill (and rivalry with every single other person) but I'm still picking the mean responses. I just want to be in character.

Which character? This one.

Posted Image

Oh yeah.


Speaking of soft spots...this isn't one of them. :sick:

#12795
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What! They're adorable together. They mesh so perfectly. They're both blood mages, they both like history, and Fenris hates both of them. What more could you want? :P

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Emperor Iaius I wrote...

What! They're adorable together. They mesh so perfectly. They're both blood mages, they both like history, and Fenris hates both of them. What more could you want? :P


I'm tempted to play a Hadriana to mirror your game. But, I think I'd never be able to touch behind my ears ever again.

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Time for a quick question. Can I rivalmance Merrill succesfully and give her the Arulin'Holm?
It's because I think that I have no right not to give her this relic of her people while I want to stop her from doing blood magic.

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JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Time for a quick question. Can I rivalmance Merrill succesfully and give her the Arulin'Holm?
It's because I think that I have no right not to give her this relic of her people while I want to stop her from doing blood magic.


You'll have to make up the points in others way, but I'm sure it's possible. 

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TheBlackBaron wrote...

JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Time for a quick question. Can I rivalmance Merrill succesfully and give her the Arulin'Holm?
It's because I think that I have no right not to give her this relic of her people while I want to stop her from doing blood magic.


You'll have to make up the points in others way, but I'm sure it's possible. 

Hawke: Hey Merrill I found this Sylvanwood ring.
Merrill: Those are given to Keepers, it tells the story of-
Hawke: Yeah thats great and all *chucks it into the fire* but wood burns and I'm a bit chilly.
Merrill Rivalry +15

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JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Time for a quick question. Can I rivalmance Merrill succesfully and give her the Arulin'Holm?
It's because I think that I have no right not to give her this relic of her people while I want to stop her from doing blood magic.


You can gain 40 pts of rivalry from her by taking her on the 'forbidden knowledge' side quest...having her in the party when you destroy the first 4 evil books...that gains +10 rivalry everytime...though the fell grimiore if you decide to take the book's deal for attribute points(2)...will gain you 10-15 of those points back( you also get a sweet blood mage staff named voracity from that quest).