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#13426
Wulfram

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froogle345 wrote...

Hey, if this has been talked about before srry, but i want to start a rivalmance with Merrill but at the same time want to support the mages, is it still possible to do this and if so, any tips to doing it?


Easiest way to do it is probably to be friends until the big choice in her Act 2 quest, since then your Friend points will all be converted to rivalry.

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bleetman

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Merrill is (as far as I'm aware) unique in her approval, in that you can immediately switch from friendship to rivalry based on whether you give her the arulin'holm, provided you aren't capped for friendship by that point. There's no need to specifically hunt for rivalry points and leave her out of mage-friendly quests if you do that.

Modifié par bleetman, 03 mai 2011 - 08:05 .


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Wulfram wrote...

froogle345 wrote...

Hey, if this has been talked about before srry, but i want to start a rivalmance with Merrill but at the same time want to support the mages, is it still possible to do this and if so, any tips to doing it?


Easiest way to do it is probably to be friends until the big choice in her Act 2 quest, since then your Friend points will all be converted to rivalry.

i didn't know it converted! lol i feel like a noob Posted Image  ty Wulfram and  Blackout62

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TheAwesomologist wrote...

No I'm pretty sure pearl white and silver are both lighter....


Oh, that's what you meant, I thought it was gonna be something involving dark red for her blood magic. I'll make something lighter for next monday.

#13430
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I still think she needs a scarf or some other fabric to break up her neck with the Dalish Pariah armour.

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I don't mind not having a scarf, but I cannot stand the chain-mail they used with that armor, it looks terrible and I notice so very bad clipping with her neck occurs. I think the one they used in her default armor looks a lot better.

Modifié par Coous, 03 mai 2011 - 11:28 .


#13432
draken-heart

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 i like the romance outfit for merrill myself, shows the kind of influence hawke has on merrill, if only there were diffrent versions depending on the type of romance.

also i wonder why Cassandra is looking in her homeland for my hawke and her dalish lover, since the pair are probably gonna be looking for the clan merrill was born to by that time.

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I think the clipping happens due to graphical settings. Originally I played on low quality graphics and saw tons of clipping especially with Merrill's romance outfit, once I turned the settings up a bit the clipping on her neck all but disappeared.

#13434
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draken-heart wrote...

 i like the romance outfit for merrill myself, shows the kind of influence hawke has on merrill, if only there were diffrent versions depending on the type of romance.

also i wonder why Cassandra is looking in her homeland for my hawke and her dalish lover, since the pair are probably gonna be looking for the clan merrill was born to by that time.


this is how i ended my da2 play as well i wrote a epiloge thing to go with it too:happy:

#13435
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PseudoEthnic wrote...

Esbatty wrote...

Chapter 8 of my Merrill fic, which we witness the Ceremony... finally.

Now I want fanart of that dowry. It sounds so cool by how you're descibing it.

Thank you, I'm gonna touch on that in Chapter 9. I wanted him to give her something very personal to her but also with a funny story to go with it.

#13436
TheAwesomologist

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I love the look of Merrill's Raiments of the Dalish Pariah. I'm a fan of mages wearing armor and not just choir robes. I also like how it really shows a status change for Merrill. It's a pity the time span between Act 2 and Act 3 is only summed up in Varric's brief narrative and then codex entries. More should have been done if Ander/Merrill move in, if Fenris/Isabella abandon you for 3 years, Aveline's wedding AT YOUR HOUSE! (how hard would it have been to make that a 30 second montage?). Of course thats more of an issue with the game pacing and planning than anything with Merrill.

Anyways I find the armor fitting and in some ways it makes up a little for the story BioWare didn't tell.

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I'm having a brain blip and can't remember the answer to this (also don't have time to play) - If you're rivalling Merril but NOT romancing her, when she gets angry after not giving her the Arulin'holm and throws you out - does she still come to apologise at your mansion? How does that play out if not romanced?

#13438
TheAwesomologist

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She still comes to your house in hopes of angry make up sex after she apologizes for her actions. If you don't want to romance her you'll have to turn her down before you do the Dirty Dalish Deed, otherwise you'll break other romances.

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Hi I created a music video starring Merrill and I hope I could get a little bit of feedback on this ^^ Thanks!

#13440
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TheAwesomologist wrote...

She still comes to your house in hopes of angry make up sex after she apologizes for her actions. If you don't want to romance her you'll have to turn her down before you do the Dirty Dalish Deed, otherwise you'll break other romances.


Really? Even if you havn't flirted at all with her before? The scene is exactly the same as the romance one? That's actually pretty lame :?. I really enjoyed DA2 at first, but the more I dig into the game and spend time on these forums, the more I weep for what it could have been.

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

Hi I created a music video starring Merrill and I hope I could get a little bit of feedback on this ^^ Thanks!

That's why I don't roll a mage, doesn't give Merrill the chance to crush on Carver.

As for the video, it's somewhat jerky, but I think you chose good pairings.

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TheAwesomologist

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thegrimfandango wrote...

TheAwesomologist wrote...

She still comes to your house in hopes of angry make up sex after she apologizes for her actions. If you don't want to romance her you'll have to turn her down before you do the Dirty Dalish Deed, otherwise you'll break other romances.


Really? Even if you havn't flirted at all with her before? The scene is exactly the same as the romance one? That's actually pretty lame :?. I really enjoyed DA2 at first, but the more I dig into the game and spend time on these forums, the more I weep for what it could have been.

Oh you haven't flirted with her? Then I don't know to be honest. I've never not flirted with Merrill. :innocent:

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Northern Sun wrote...

TriviaAeducan wrote...

Hi I created a music video starring Merrill and I hope I could get a little bit of feedback on this ^^ Thanks!

That's why I don't roll a mage, doesn't give Merrill the chance to crush on Carver.

As for the video, it's somewhat jerky, but I think you chose good pairings.


Stupid recording program and need to reduce file size! Ehehe, thanks. Anyways, i would have used Fraps but it's worse so i used Camstudio, which is pretty cool cuz you can choose where to capture.

Liked the final pair..?

#13444
TheAwesomologist

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TriviaAeducan wrote...

Hi I created a music video starring Merrill and I hope I could get a little bit of feedback on this ^^ Thanks!


That last one was rather... disturbing... :? (Would have worked better with Seamus.)

I totally got a feel that something could have happened between Bethany & Anders, but Carver & Merrill seemed more like a comedy of errors. First Carver tests the waters but it just becomes painfully obvious that Merrill is just inept at picking up social cues. If anything it's just funny.

#13445
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Thank you bleetman. Big question here: What happens if you ARE capped on friendship and keep the arulin'holm? Does she still throw you out of the house? Or conversely, if you are capped on rivarly and give her the arulin'holm? 

I guess what I'm asking is does the story keep track of the arulin'holm giving as a separate variable or is it just tied to friendship/rivalrly which cutscenes you get?

Edit: OK I just tested this. Maximized on friendship, you still get the angry dialogue and get thrown out of the house, but after that the next quest goes straight to a friendly dialog that implies you've given her the arulin'holm. So I would say that maximizing friendship/rivalrly and then acting counter to that in the mirror image quest probably hasn't been scripted to have consistent results.

bleetman wrote...

Merrill is (as far as I'm aware) unique in her approval, in that you can immediately switch from friendship to rivalry based on whether you give her the arulin'holm, provided you aren't capped for friendship by that point. There's no need to specifically hunt for rivalry points and leave her out of mage-friendly quests if you do that.



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One thing I dont quite understand about the eluvian: was the demon going to use it to get to the psysical world without a host or was he planning to possess Merrill? cuz if he wasnt going to possess merrill then the keeper´s actions make no sense. The possibility of recovering those ancient powers and maybe the lost immortality seems worth the risk, also it´s just one demon and they are an entire clan, no way he could have dealt serious damage... I think

#13447
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Merril needs a Mod makeover bigtime. She's like the old, dried out, wrinkled, skin stretched over the bone beef jerky a dog wouldn't eat.

#13448
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You're right. She looks like she's 50 or something and she's supposed to be in her twenties when you meet her. And what's with those tiny, dark eyes? Beedy. Like a rat.

She just doesn't look trustworthy to me.

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[[Above: Merrill contemplates how to kill Hawke all day long.]]

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[[Above: Merrill wishes to use her blood magic to enslave all of Kirkwall.]]

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[[Above: Merrill wonders how she'll hide all the bodies.]]

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 05 mai 2011 - 07:17 .


#13449
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kcman5 wrote...

Merril needs a Mod makeover bigtime. She's like the old, dried out, wrinkled, skin stretched over the bone beef jerky a dog wouldn't eat.



Durrr, ahurrr hurrrrrr hurr.


Satisfied?

#13450
bleetman

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He's right about the wrinkles, though. I mean just look at them.

Why, there's... there's three of them, at least. Like a dried prune I tell you.

Modifié par bleetman, 05 mai 2011 - 07:38 .