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jlb524 wrote...

DoNotIngest wrote...

And why would Flemeth capture Merrill and threaten to possess her? She seems to want to possess only daughters that she raises... And Merrill is a tad different than Morrigan

I've wondered if Flemeth even needs a daughter right now given her magical resurrection.  I'm not sure how all that works.  That part always seemed a bit odd to me...I'd imagine Flemeth's soul or whatever that was in the amulet would need a new host to possess (the only option would have been Merrill or it could have been a mage, female Hawke I suppose).  However, she just comes back in her old body.  Regardless, I think she would definitely want to body-snatch Morrigan as she raised her and tailored her to her own "needs" whatever they may be.

I'm not sure I really buy into Flemeth needing a new body at all. She had no intention of taking over Morrigan's body if you let her go. Rather, she just wanted to watch her. And she seems to care about Merrill a lot (how one takes her advice to Merrill varies), so I doubt she wants Merrill's body.

I mean if she can transport a piece of herself anywhere, why would she need a new body at all? Morrigan says she ages, but how do we know Flemeth in all her wily ways wasn't aging deliberately so that Morrigan would feel safe?

[Giggles_Manically]

Flemeth does imply that Morrigan could very well be lying about how she lives on so long.

[DoNotIngest]

Well, we all know Morrigan would never use "loved" ones for her own gains, c'mon...


But this is about Merrill, I thought =O

[DoNotIngest]

Oh, and since I haven't seen this one on here yet... Gotta love Legacy.

[Quinnzel]

@DoNotIngest: lol, Merrills legacy bits are indeed awesome (and so is that pic! Feathers FTW!)

I hope Merrills first words, after finding the Wyvern in Mark of the Assasin, are:
'Can we keep it?'

[DoNotIngest]

Mine would be too... The Hawke rides a Wyvern 8D



Hawke to Merrill: "We can name him Slithers! "

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 17 septembre 2011 - 09:23 .

[ChaplainTappman]

I have a hard time seeing Hawke leaving Merrill behind, personally. Merrill's sweet, and a very skilled mage, but let's face it. She's not exactly capable of taking care of herself in the outside world. Unless they were to come across a Dalish clan that: a, hasn't heard about what happened with her clan, and b, was willing to take on "some shemlen's stray."

The templars and mages I don't see posing much of a threat to Hawke & Merrill. I imagine the Seekers would be trouble in a fight, but I don't think they're a threat. They are a part of the Chantry, and dealing with the most dangerous abominations is part of their job, but they clearly come from a different strain of Andrastian faith than the templars. Leliana is a high ranking Seeker, and her personal concept of the faith borders on heretical. Cassandra is clearly interrogating Varric to discern the truth about the events surrounding Hawke; a templar wouldn't be interested in literal truth but rather their dogmatic "truth." I don't think the Seekers are a threat unless Hawke makes them a threat.

[DoNotIngest]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

I have a hard time seeing Hawke leaving Merrill behind, personally. Merrill's sweet, and a very skilled mage, but let's face it. She's not exactly capable of taking care of herself in the outside world. Unless they were to come across a Dalish clan that: a, hasn't heard about what happened with her clan, and b, was willing to take on "some shemlen's stray."

I can see her having plenty of reservations if only from the hatred of her former clan, Pol and Marethari. But if you killed her last one? She'd probably have quite the reaction to merely suggesting it.


And wouldn't the Dalish know of Hawke & Merrill? The Dalish aren't great in number, I'm sure it would have been spread wide and far that the Champion's lover and a key companion was Merrill.

[ChaplainTappman]

DoNotIngest wrote...

I can see her having plenty of reservations if only from the hatred of her former clan, Pol and Marethari. But if you killed her last one? She'd probably have quite the reaction to merely suggesting it.

And wouldn't the Dalish know of Hawke & Merrill? The Dalish aren't great in number, I'm sure it would have been spread wide and far that the Champion's lover and a key companion was Merrill.

That's my point. I don't see the Dalish being willing to take her in, and that's the only condition I see Hawke leaving her behind.

[Jacopo07]

speaking of "mark of the assassin", in the information revealed, one says that "Companions will flirt with Tallis, and Carver has not lost his "thing for elves."

... then it wasn't just me, he was hitting on merrill! xD

poor girl.. Fenris and Anders so mean with hear..
the whiny little brother trying ankwardly to seduce her..

it's not a surprise that she ran into my Hawke's arms ^^

nevertheless, she has very funny party banters with Carver.. "Did I miss something dirty?" I
laughed a lot at that!

[DoNotIngest]

Ah, Carver... That conversation with Merrill telling him something like "Oh, don't worry, Carver, I bet you you'll be the best sworder in Kirkwall someday!"... Almost seemed like Merrill was being unintentionally condescending. And Carver's attempt at a reply... Implied facepalm all the way xD




Oh, and there's a poll about Merrill VS the Crazy One for "who's better".

http://social.biowar...07/polls/24738/

Modifié par DoNotIngest, 18 septembre 2011 - 06:04 .

[Todd23]

DoNotIngest wrote...

Ah, Carver... That conversation with Merrill telling him something like "Oh, don't worry, Carver, I bet you you'll be the best sworder in Kirkwall someday!"... Almost seemed like Merrill was being unintentionally condescending. And Carver's attempt at a reply... Implied facepalm all the way xD




Oh, and there's a poll about Merrill VS the Crazy One for "who's better".

http://social.biowar...07/polls/24738/

Leliana's "the crazy one"?  She's the only companion in Dragon Age with indesputable good intentions... and Bethany.

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ChaplainTappman wrote...

I have a hard time seeing Hawke leaving Merrill behind, personally. Merrill's sweet, and a very skilled mage, but let's face it. She's not exactly capable of taking care of herself in the outside world. Unless they were to come across a Dalish clan that: a, hasn't heard about what happened with her clan, and b, was willing to take on "some shemlen's stray."

The templars and mages I don't see posing much of a threat to Hawke & Merrill. I imagine the Seekers would be trouble in a fight, but I don't think they're a threat. They are a part of the Chantry, and dealing with the most dangerous abominations is part of their job, but they clearly come from a different strain of Andrastian faith than the templars. Leliana is a high ranking Seeker, and her personal concept of the faith borders on heretical. Cassandra is clearly interrogating Varric to discern the truth about the events surrounding Hawke; a templar wouldn't be interested in literal truth but rather their dogmatic "truth." I don't think the Seekers are a threat unless Hawke makes them a threat.

I think Merrill can definitely take care of herself after spending 7 years in a human city. She's learned a lot, and she had her friends to help teach her more.

[Jacopo07]

Todd23 wrote...
Leliana's "the crazy one"?  She's the only companion in Dragon Age with indesputable good intentions... and Bethany.

well, actually Merrill's intentions were good too... her way to achieve them, not so much... xP

Modifié par Jacopo07, 18 septembre 2011 - 11:08 .

[ChaplainTappman]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I think Merrill can definitely take care of herself after spending 7 years in a human city. She's learned a lot, and she had her friends to help teach her more.

But her strategy in Kirkwall was "stay quiet and hope no one notices me." That worked then, because she had a support structure that could help her. I don't know that that would work without Hawke & co. there to help out. I also don't know where she'd go. I doubt she can go to the Dalish, and she'd stick out too much amongst humans or city elves, I think.

[Collider]

Jacopo07 wrote...

Todd23 wrote...
Leliana's "the crazy one"?  She's the only companion in Dragon Age with indesputable good intentions... and Bethany.

well, actually Merrill's intentions were good too... her way to achieve them, not so much... xP

Blood magic is not evil.

[Jacopo07]

Collider wrote...

Blood magic is not evil.

The practice of summoning demons, not, but the the demons themselves ARE evil...

what has Merrill obtained with the help of demons? to fix the Eluvian, she would have unleashed the pride demon from it's prigion and she would have been his first victim..

she maybe would have reached the purpose of restoring this ancient relic of elven lore, but at the cost of many lives, human, elven, whatever...

then, i belive blood magic is actually evil, because evil is the nature of the deal with demons itself, the keeper  knew it and sacrificed herself to show Merrill what was really doing. That's just my point of view, of course..

[ChaplainTappman]

Jacopo07 wrote...

The practice of summoning demons, not, but the the demons themselves ARE evil...

what has Merrill obtained with the help of demons? to fix the Eluvian, she would have unleashed the pride demon from it's prigion and she would have been his first victim..

she maybe would have reached the purpose of restoring this ancient relic of elven lore, but at the cost of many lives, human, elven, whatever...

then, i belive blood magic is actually evil, because evil is the nature of the deal with demons itself, the keeper  knew it and sacrificed herself to show Merrill what was really doing. That's just my point of view, of course..

Blood magic, like any magic, is a tool. Do you blame the sword or the swordsman?

The "evil" in blood magic comes primarily from the fact that it's often practiced by weak mages. These mages attract demons that are too powerful for them to resist, and they succumb to possession. But Merrill isn't weak, and she's philosophically protected against possession in a way Circle mages aren't.

[Raptor88blue]

No one responded to my post, so I don't think anyone saw this Merrill fan art/comic site. Maybe it's beacuse it was off topic, or maybe it looked like spam. But the site is called ask Merrill, and an artist makes these hilarious Merrill comics. There are related sites that have comics about some of the other characters too. I would post an example comic, or a clickable link; however, I am uber new to this forum, so I am not savy with how to post things like that. I keep getting notices telling me my browser security settings are not letting me post links and pictures directly.

I am being persistent because I want to support the artist of the site so that he/she will continue making these comics. The address below is not clickable, and I don't know how to make it so. Sorry for being off topic.

http://askbloodmagedaisy.tumblr.com/

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Jacopo07 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Blood magic is not evil.

The practice of summoning demons, not, but the the demons themselves ARE evil...

what has Merrill obtained with the help of demons? to fix the Eluvian, she would have unleashed the pride demon from it's prigion and she would have been his first victim..

she maybe would have reached the purpose of restoring this ancient relic of elven lore, but at the cost of many lives, human, elven, whatever...

then, i belive blood magic is actually evil, because evil is the nature of the deal with demons itself, the keeper  knew it and sacrificed herself to show Merrill what was really doing. That's just my point of view, of course..

She had no intention of freeing the demon. Going to talk to a demon that isn't responding to you when you're miles away =/= going to free a demon.

She doesn't know what's going to happen because the demon's always responded to her before, so she's making sure she knows.

In fact, the reason why it's not responding is because it was already freed. By Marethari. That's the only logical explanation considering Marethari still becomes an Abomination if you don't tell her about your intentions to go to the statue.

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Raptor88blue wrote...

No one responded to my post, so I don't think anyone saw this Merrill fan art/comic site. Maybe it's beacuse it was off topic, or maybe it looked like spam. But the site is called ask Merrill, and an artist makes these hilarious Merrill comics. There are related sites that have comics about some of the other characters too. I would post an example comic, or a clickable link; however, I am uber new to this forum, so I am not savy with how to post things like that. I keep getting notices telling me my browser security settings are not letting me post links and pictures directly.

I am being persistent because I want to support the artist of the site so that he/she will continue making these comics. The address below is not clickable, and I don't know how to make it so. Sorry for being off topic.

http://askbloodmagedaisy.tumblr.com/

It's Merrill related, so it's on topic. Best way to support the site is to make it your signature. People tend to investigate signature links.

[TEWR]

ChaplainTappman wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I think Merrill can definitely take care of herself after spending 7 years in a human city. She's learned a lot, and she had her friends to help teach her more.

But her strategy in Kirkwall was "stay quiet and hope no one notices me." That worked then, because she had a support structure that could help her. I don't know that that would work without Hawke & co. there to help out. I also don't know where she'd go. I doubt she can go to the Dalish, and she'd stick out too much amongst humans or city elves, I think.

She's actually fairly well known in the Alienage, considering Nyssa and Merrill are good friends. And if she moved into Hightown with Hawke, she also becomes known amongst the nobility.

Isabela sort of looks after her like Merrill's a little sister, giving her helpful advice on the world and how to be a part of it.

Merrill's fine after those 7 years.

[DrFumb1ezX]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

ChaplainTappman wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

I think Merrill can definitely take care of herself after spending 7 years in a human city. She's learned a lot, and she had her friends to help teach her more.

But her strategy in Kirkwall was "stay quiet and hope no one notices me." That worked then, because she had a support structure that could help her. I don't know that that would work without Hawke & co. there to help out. I also don't know where she'd go. I doubt she can go to the Dalish, and she'd stick out too much amongst humans or city elves, I think.

She's actually fairly well known in the Alienage, considering Nyssa and Merrill are good friends. And if she moved into Hightown with Hawke, she also becomes known amongst the nobility.

Isabela sort of looks after her like Merrill's a little sister, giving her helpful advice on the world and how to be a part of it.

Merrill's fine after those 7 years.

Plus, Varric has his spy network of elven urchins that are always watching. They'd be able to redirect templars easily. 
Not to mention Aveline might also be deflecting templar interference if Hawke asks.

[ChaplainTappman]

soccerchick wrote...

Plus, Varric has his spy network of elven urchins that are always watching. They'd be able to redirect templars easily. 
Not to mention Aveline might also be deflecting templar interference if Hawke asks.

That assumes she stays in Kirkwall. I guess if she was with Isabella, Hawke would be okay with it, though.

[Jacopo07]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

She had no intention of freeing the demon. Going to talk to a demon that isn't responding to you when you're miles away =/= going to free a demon.

She doesn't know what's going to happen because the demon's always responded to her before, so she's making sure she knows.

In fact, the reason why it's not responding is because it was already freed. By Marethari. That's the only logical explanation considering Marethari still becomes an Abomination if you don't tell her about your intentions to go to the statue.

of course she had no intention to free the demon... maybe i wasn't clear in the last post, but, as i said before, Merrill's intentions were indeed good and noble, no doubt about that, the problem was that she had to deal with a demon, and you can't say that making risky deals with demon is a good way to achieve your goals, no?

Marethari knew it, and prevent Merrill to hurt herself and the people she loves by freeing the demon itself.

Even if Merrill was unaware of this, she would have made another deal with the demon, and this, imho, it's a bad idea, i mean, she was pratically going to throw away her life, i think we all know that..

she has all the good reason to use blood magic (tough she sometimes seemed quite unreasonable, but, hey, she looked even more adorable to me, because of this^^) but honestly i can't think at it as a good way to have things done..

It's like anders'situation, to me, just not so "excessive": freeing mage from the templars may be a noble intention... blowing up churches to achieve that, well...

ChaplainTappman wrote...

Blood magic, like any magic, is a tool. Do you blame the sword or the swordsman?

The "evil" in blood magic comes primarily from the fact that it's often
practiced by weak mages. These mages attract demons that are too
powerful for them to resist, and they succumb to possession. But Merrill
isn't weak, and she's philosophically protected against possession in a
way Circle mages aren't.

I would blame the sword if it could suddenly turn against the swordsman while he's wielding it! xD

Merrill is a skilled mage, of course, and maybe too skilled to succumb, but,
since we can't know that in the game, it's reasonable to think that she could be dead without Marethari's intervention...

Modifié par Jacopo07, 19 septembre 2011 - 09:01 .