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Considering we might be going to Orlais, I'm expecting to find elf servants, instead of the Dalish.

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TMA LIVE wrote...
Considering we might be going to Orlais, I'm expecting to find elf servants, instead of the Dalish.


I think DA3 is going all over the place and I bet we will run into Dalish somewhere.  I don't think 'the elves' will be a major game focus, though.

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I wouldn't mind it if the lead in ME3 is an Elf (if they don't let us choose races again). I would prefer a Dwarf, but that would rule out mages.

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Abispa wrote...
I wouldn't mind it if the lead in ME3 is an Elf (if they don't let us choose races again). I would prefer a Dwarf, but that would rule out mages.


In DA3 you mean?  XD

I would love an elf as that's what I hope to play as in DA3 (my canon Warden is human and so is Hawke).  

I think they should let you start out as a Circle magi (human or elf) or Templar recruit (human, elf, dwarf).  ...since the next game will apparently cover that as its core conflict.

Which leads me to wonder if Merrill would involve herself in the conflict or stay out of it?  I'm not sure.

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jlb524 wrote...

Abispa wrote...
I wouldn't mind it if the lead in ME3 is an Elf (if they don't let us choose races again). I would prefer a Dwarf, but that would rule out mages.


In DA3 you mean?  XD

[Yeah, I do that sometimes. I also call get Garrus and Varric mixed up a lot too when I'm posting on several threads at once. -- :pinched:]

I would love an elf as that's what I hope to play as in DA3 (my canon Warden is human and so is Hawke).  

I think they should let you start out as a Circle magi (human or elf) or Templar recruit (human, elf, dwarf).  ...since the next game will apparently cover that as its core conflict.

Which leads me to wonder if Merrill would involve herself in the conflict or stay out of it?  I'm not sure.


IF she shows up at all it will probably just be a cameo, similar to DA2 or ME3 (I assume).  After all, she may not have survived. If she did show up they would have to come up with a situation where she either never did, or no longer, is romantically involved with Hawke, which would anger many players. If we do see her again (meaningfully), it will probably just be in DLCs or any DA2 expansions.

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Abispa wrote...
IF she shows up at all it will probably just be a cameo, similar to DA2 or ME3 (I assume).  After all, she may not have survived. If she did show up they would have to come up with a situation where she either never did, or no longer, is romantically involved with Hawke, which would anger many players. If we do see her again (meaningfully), it will probably just be in DLCs or any DA2 expansions.


But if Hawke has disappeared unintentionally/unwillingly/was eaten by Flemeth then Merrill could be sans Hawke.  I kind of got the impression that this is what did happen to both Hawke and the Warden.

I think she will probably have a cameo regardless as did some of the DA:O characters (Zevran).  Isabela should definitely be a cameo (and Varric).  

So, maybe you'll have to go to a Dalish camp for some reason and Merrill will be there to aid you with a quest and you can talk to her for a bit if she's alive.   If not, you get to talk to Berrill her long lost cousin.

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DA fans rage at the new DA3 development that challenges to destroy their immersion: Merrill is the NEW "Justice" abomination. Apparently he didn't go back to the Fade. Gaider said all may be explained in future games. Maybe.

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Abispa wrote...

DA fans rage at the new DA3 development that challenges to destroy their immersion: Merrill is the NEW "Justice" abomination. Apparently he didn't go back to the Fade. Gaider said all may be explained in future games. Maybe.


Oh yeah, that booming masculine voice coming out of Merrill's petite little feminine frame!  

Justice comes out when people shoo her from their garden.

"NATURE IS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY!  I WILL DESTROY EVERY LAST GARDENER FOR THIS!"

Modifié par jlb524, 05 janvier 2012 - 11:36 .


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Is Chastity a spirit? If so, I nominate snarky Hawke or Isabela for a Chastity abomination.

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Faith, Valor, Compassion, Fortitude and Justice are the only "good" spirits I know of.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 06 janvier 2012 - 02:04 .


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jlb524 wrote...

Abispa wrote...

DA fans rage at the new DA3 development that challenges to destroy their immersion: Merrill is the NEW "Justice" abomination. Apparently he didn't go back to the Fade. Gaider said all may be explained in future games. Maybe.


Oh yeah, that booming masculine voice coming out of Merrill's petite little feminine frame!  

Justice comes out when people shoo her from their garden.

"NATURE IS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY!  I WILL DESTROY EVERY LAST GARDENER FOR THIS!"



"RAR WHY ARE YOU CROSSING THE STREET TO AVOID ME WE WILL HOLD HANDS AND DANCE TOGETHER AND PLAY"

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jlb524 wrote...

Abispa wrote...

DA fans rage at the new DA3 development that challenges to destroy their immersion: Merrill is the NEW "Justice" abomination. Apparently he didn't go back to the Fade. Gaider said all may be explained in future games. Maybe.


Oh yeah, that booming masculine voice coming out of Merrill's petite little feminine frame!  

Justice comes out when people shoo her from their garden.

"NATURE IS FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY!  I WILL DESTROY EVERY LAST GARDENER FOR THIS!"


LMAO. What is she turning into Poison Ivy from Batman?

A Meriill/Justice combo makes me very sad. That would be strike one against DA3 for me. She was in a romance with my Hawke and there's no way my Hawke would allow this. If Merill started to be anything like Anders Hawke would outright kill her. If a Justice Anders nuked the Chantry, what is a Merill one going to pull the Grand Cathedral in Orlais into the earth using blood magic like the Tevinters did with Arlathan?

Justice got messed up enough in Anders how bad would he be in a blood mage? And what is wrong with Justice, after being in Anders wouldn't he, I don't know, have had a friggin' enough of being warped by merging with someone?

Modifié par Asch Lavigne, 06 janvier 2012 - 12:54 .


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jlb524 wrote...

But if Hawke has disappeared unintentionally/unwillingly/was eaten by Flemeth then Merrill could be sans Hawke.  I kind of got the impression that this is what did happen to both Hawke and the Warden.

I think she will probably have a cameo regardless as did some of the DA:O characters (Zevran).  Isabela should definitely be a cameo (and Varric).  

So, maybe you'll have to go to a Dalish camp for some reason and Merrill will be there to aid you with a quest and you can talk to her for a bit if she's alive.   If not, you get to talk to Berrill her long lost cousin.


If we get an expansion where Hawke disappears through an Eluvian, and a romanced Merrill doesn't go with him, I'll be pretty pissed.

Equally pissed I will be should none of the romances step through the Eluvian with Hawke.

Go with Hawke they all should.

EDIT: And I remember some months ago people were asking that Merrill come back in DA3 as an evil blood mage.

Guess how I reacted to that.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 06 janvier 2012 - 12:54 .


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The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

EDIT: And I remember some months ago people were asking that Merrill come back in DA3 as an evil blood mage.

Guess how I reacted to that.


Hmm, let me guess...

"Dummies. She's ALREADY an evil blood mage!"?

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Abispa wrote...

Is Chastity a spirit? If so, I nominate snarky Hawke or Isabela for a Chastity abomination.


Haha, that would be epic.

What is the twisted form of Chastity?

Justice -> Vengeance
Chastity -> ?

Abispa wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

EDIT: And I remember some months ago people were asking that Merrill come back in DA3 as an evil blood mage.

Guess how I reacted to that.


Hmm, let me guess...

"Dummies. She's ALREADY an evil blood mage!"?


ROFL

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...
If we get an expansion where Hawke disappears through an Eluvian, and a romanced Merrill doesn't go with him, I'll be pretty pissed.


Why wouldn't she go?  I think she'd be curious about them at least..and if loverboy/girl Hawke is going through it...you'd have to tie her up with her ball of twine to prevent her from passing through it.

Modifié par jlb524, 06 janvier 2012 - 01:42 .


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Lust?
Or.. Desire?

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Knight of Dane wrote...

Lust?
Or.. Desire?


So that's where Desire Demons come from.

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jlb524 wrote...


Haha, that would be epic.

What is the twisted form of Chastity?

Justice -> Vengeance
Chastity -> ?


Celibacy?

I mean, I don't know if there would be one if there's even a spirit of Chastity. Justice's turning into Vengeance -- which I kinda view as him being both Justice and Vengeance in one being that's also inside Anders -- seems to say that they become an alter ego of what they originally embodied.

Like Faith would become Zealotry.

Not sure what Valor would become.

Though Chastity would probably turn into violent celibacy.

"You must not procreate! It is a sin against the Maker!"

*blows up a chantry*


Abispa wrote...

Hmm, let me guess...

"Dummies. She's ALREADY an evil blood mage!"?


LOL




Why wouldn't she go?  I think she'd be curious about them at least..and if loverboy/girl Hawke is going through it...you'd have to tie her up with her ball of twine to prevent her from passing through it.


Precisely. That's why I think she'd go through. She'd be curious to find out what's on the other side.

I wonder if Morrigan may meet with Hawke and ask for him to come through. Maybe she and Merrill would have some talks about the Eluvians.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 06 janvier 2012 - 02:00 .


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Okay, Ethereal Writer Redux...where are they getting this working eluvian from?

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I demand a bi-romanceable Berril!

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@ Ravensword -- Your avatar looks like she's reading a really interesting issue of Formax.

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Maybe Bioware could introduce the celibacy abomination weapon set DLC...

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jlb524 wrote...

Okay, Ethereal Writer Redux...where are they getting this working eluvian from?



hmmm....

Ferelden? There could be another one there besides the one Morrigan used and the shattered one. Tevinter? I'd expect one to be there.

Perhaps even in Halamshiral, in old ruins that the current Dalish Elves haven't yet found? Perhaps Merrill will use the Scrying ritual to find one.

Modifié par The Ethereal Writer Redux, 06 janvier 2012 - 03:46 .


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How will they activate it?

Unless they are lucky to find an already active one (like Tamlen and Mahariel...though they weren't so lucky)

And why are they even looking for one? I'm just curious how you would write this if you were writing this XD

Abispa wrote...

Maybe Bioware could introduce the celibacy abomination weapon set DLC...

*snip* (hee hee)


:devil:

Modifié par jlb524, 06 janvier 2012 - 03:51 .


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I doubt Bioware will use the same trick for Hawke that they did for the Warden.

Maybe Merrill and Hawke get frozen for couple decades while trying to stop some missiles.(lame CapAmerica ref)