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[Face of Evil]

Serious Answer: No, it's a video game. If you enjoyed yourself, who cares?

Non-Serious Answer: MONSTER! How could you **** around on Merrill like that? *sobs*

[draken-heart]

Face of Evil wrote...

Serious Answer: No, it's a video game. If you enjoyed yourself, who cares?

Non-Serious Answer: MONSTER! How could you **** around on Merrill like that? *sobs*

lol on non-serious answer, but that was her personality growing up: never staying with one girl for long...until Merrill came along, but she kept womanizing for when she needs to get away from Merrill...

[thats1evildude]

You want to know something AMAZING* that I discovered last night? Merrill's romance outfit is reflective. I was in the Hanged Man with Merrill during the day time and it gave off a reddish hue.

*Not really that amazing.

Modifié par thats1evildude, 25 juin 2012 - 06:28 .

[LobselVith8]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

What? No more Merrill related posts? Blasphemy!

Dragon Age II DLC has come to a close, and Mark of the Assassin didn't really have much Merrill content. I'd wager that there isn't really much for anyone to discuss about Merrill. What do you see your Hawke and Merrill doing with their lives, post-Right of Annulment?

[Todd23]

LobselVith8 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

What? No more Merrill related posts? Blasphemy!

Dragon Age II DLC has come to a close, and Mark of the Assassin didn't really have much Merrill content. I'd wager that there isn't really much for anyone to discuss about Merrill. What do you see your Hawke and Merrill doing with their lives, post-Right of Annulment?

Raising young mage babies?  The first humans to be raised in a dalish manner, and be taught keeper magic.

[PinkDiamondstl]

I really dislike this Elf.....
She is either hard-headed or stupid..she made it hard for me to like her.

[Randomjack]

Dragon Age II DLC has come to a close, and Mark of the Assassin didn't really have much Merrill content. I'd wager that there isn't really much for anyone to discuss about Merrill. What do you see your Hawke and Merrill doing with their lives, post-Right of Annulment?

Well, there is more turmoil to come, and neither is one to back down from a cause. So I figure they'll be pooling their skills and leadership abilities in an attempt to find a peaceful solution to the mage/templar conflict - failing that, they'll win it.

After that, they'll find a way to keep making things better while having a happy, quiet life - probably by settling in a village like Lothering that has seen hardship, and rebuilding it around themselves.

Modifié par Randomjack, 13 juillet 2012 - 04:59 .

[Face of Evil]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

I really dislike this Elf.....
She is either hard-headed or stupid..she made it hard for me to like her.

Shun the Non-Believer! SHUUUUUUUUN!

I imagine that Merrill and Hawke fled to Ferelden for a brief time, since that's familiar ground for both of them. But assuming that Hawke's disappearance wasn't tied to Flemeth tracking him down and eating him, they eventually moved on and continued the hunt for elven artifacts. I'd like to think that they went to Orlais to learn more about the lost city of Arlathan.

Hawke has been an adventurer for most of his adult life and Merrill has a lot of drive. I can't see them retiring to a cottage somewhere in the countryside, not unless kids entered the picture.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 13 juillet 2012 - 06:42 .

[Feuerwerke]

...Can I just say this thread makes me super happy because all of the Merrill hate out there depresses me? ;3;

[Face of Evil]

The Merrill thread is a bit of flotsam to cling to in the storm.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 14 juillet 2012 - 05:10 .

[TEWR]

LobselVith8 wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

What? No more Merrill related posts? Blasphemy!

Dragon Age II DLC has come to a close, and Mark of the Assassin didn't really have much Merrill content. I'd wager that there isn't really much for anyone to discuss about Merrill. What do you see your Hawke and Merrill doing with their lives, post-Right of Annulment?

The usual: researching Elven lore, getting actually involved in politics, going to the latest Arlathvhen, reparing the thin Veil on Sundermount/in Kirkwall, and fighting demons. Lots of demons.

Oh, and being Viscount of Kirkwall and giving the Elves the rights to Sundermount, once the Veil problem there is fixed.

But that's my fanfic Hawke who represents what I wanted my in-game Hawke to be  and not my actual in-game Hawke .

[LobselVith8]

PinkDiamondstl wrote...

I really dislike this Elf.....
She is either hard-headed or stupid..she made it hard for me to like her.

I really liked Merrill, and I respected her intelligence and her determination to help the People while the rest of the Dalish were hoping to simply stumble upon an answer to their plight. Merrill was proactive in a way that I genuinely wish Hawke was, and despite my criticisms against Dragon Age II, she was a character I applauded for refusing to simply sit on her butt and do nothing while her culture crumbled around her.

As for being hard-headed, is this because of her arguments with Anders? Merrill makes it clear that she doesn't believe in the distinction between spirits and demons because they are religiously Andrastian; she is Dalish, so she obviously won't agree with Anders or his Andrastian views. As Merrill addresses to her credit:

Anders: Do Dalish honestly not recognize the difference between demons and beneficial spirits?

Merrill: We've never thought of the Fade as the home of our gods. It is another realm, another people's home. No different or more foreign than, say, Orzammar.

Varric: You can say that again.

Anders: But have you never studied the types of demons? They break down very clearly into different sins--

Merrill: Spirits differ from each other, just as you and Hawke and Isabela are all human. More or less...

Merrill isn't ignorant here, she comes from another culture that has a different view on the inhabitants of the Fade. The fact that she had to keep stressing her Dalish views to Anders made it clear that Andrastians don't likely deal with learning about other cultures themselves.

[Feuerwerke]

@LobselVith8
Honestly Merrill's view here makes more sense to me anyway. After all, we all know what bonding with Justice did to Anders. All spirits have the potential to be dangerous, even if some can be beneficial. It's best to tread with caution in all cases. And really, while Merrill's actions were risky, she was pretty careful for the most part.

[Knight of Dane]

First time in a while this thread has had a bit of activity. And right when i am replaying DA2 too.

Sad that the game died as quickly as its development, i was hoping for a final DLC to give Merrill and Fenris some more screen time.
Ah well.

[thats1evildude]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

Oh, and being Viscount of Kirkwall and giving the Elves the rights to Sundermount, once the Veil problem there is fixed.

I seriously wonder if Merrill would get to stay with Hawke if s/he became viscount. After all, there would be pressure for the viscount to have a "proper" heir. At best, Merrill can only give Hawke a half-breed, and that's only if Hawke is male.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just pointing out that one possible issue that might arise.

[TEWR]

thats1evildude wrote...

I seriously wonder if Merrill would get to stay with Hawke if s/he became viscount. After all, there would be pressure for the viscount to have a "proper" heir. At best, Merrill can only give Hawke a half-breed, and that's only if Hawke is male.

I'm not saying it's right, I'm just pointing out that one possible issue that might arise.

I seriously doubt anyone could tell Hawke what to do, as he or she would just... go straight to the thrashing. Plus, all Elven-Human relationships result in human children, with some more Elven looking features. But human nevertheless -- and Gaider intimated that it had to do with magic, rather then genetics.

Besides, most of the nobility followed Hawke's actions during Act III like a pack of lemmings. You're pro-mage? They're pro-mage. You're pro-Templar? They're pro-Templar. You say you should be Viscount? They say you should be Viscount.

You ask them what they'd do for a Klondike bar? They say they'll follow you like a pack of lemmings.

So if Hawke's with Merrill, they'd probably just back away in fear and say "Okay."

[Knight of Dane]

It would also depend on the Hawke's character and sense of duty if s/he was viscount.

I don't think any of the Hawke's I've been playing would give up their love interest. Maybe the one cynical power-hungry one could discard Isabela if he thought she was making him a bad name, but then again i only really care about my favorite playthrough with Merill and non-viscount ending.

[LobselVith8]

We see how being non-human prevents The Warden from being King or Queen, as Queen Anora explains the Landsmeet will refuse it, and Alistair breaks up with his LI Warden when he becomes King. I suppose the same issues could arise for Hawke if he becomes Viscount, and is romantically involved with Merrill. Would they be married at this point? How would the Chantry and templars react to a "heathen" being the spouse of the Viscount? Would violence ensue from humans who are bigoted against elves? Might there be any reaction from the Dalish clans?

A lot of dilemmas. It makes me glad I chose to go the "rebel mage leader" route.

Just curious, has anyone considered how Merrill would feel about raising a child with Hawke, considering that the baby will be human (as Ethereal pointed out)? I know that her Dalish heritage is important to her, and I wonder how that would come into play having a child like Feynriel (who might be a mage, like one or both parents).

[Face of Evil]

LobselVith8 wrote...

Just curious, has anyone considered how Merrill would feel about raising a child with Hawke, considering that the baby will be human (as Ethereal pointed out)? I know that her Dalish heritage is important to her, and I wonder how that would come into play having a child like Feynriel (who might be a mage, like one or both parents).

Merrill has violated her culture's taboos by just being with Hawke, so I can't see that having a child together would cause her any greater stress in that regard.

More pertinent is whether Merrill would even want children. I'm not sure I can picture Merrill as a mother; she doesn't seem the type to want children. It would have to happen by accident, if at all.

(Now I'm kind of wondering if Thedas has any form of contraception, or whether magic can be used for that purpose.)

Modifié par Face of Evil, 16 juillet 2012 - 08:23 .

[Knight of Dane]

I have to disagree, i think Merill could be very motherly. She's protective, careful and dedicted.

However having a child with my Hawke would either need strong magic or adoption since my Hawke was a woman.

[Face of Evil]

Merrill is very kind and loving, but is she keen on having kids? A part of me says yes, but I worry that I'm simply projecting my own desires on to her.

None of the party members in DA2 seem like the type to have children. They all lead dangerous lives, Hawke especially. He/she might complain about dealing with insane blood mages and demons on a weekly basis, but that's still the life they chose. A quiet domestic life — raising a brood of little Hawkes out in some little white cottage — just doesn't seem right.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 16 juillet 2012 - 11:03 .

[Xilizhra]

My Hawke, of course, can't have a child with Merrill, but I think we'd be willing to adopt one if the time came. Although I don't think my Hawke has grown as war-weary as my Shepard has after ME3, so it may not be for a while.

[Knight of Dane]

Instead of getting kids I always thought that Merrill and Hawke might either join Bethany in the fight to free mages or perhaps travel back to Ferelden and see what work Alistair could have.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

I tend to project my own distaste for children on my characters. My current Hawke would make a terrible mother anyway, she's too interested in coin and learning new spells. I see her and Merrill travelling, looking for treasure and elven artifacts (just realised I'm imagining them as adventure archaeologists which is exactly what I imagined for Shep and Liara). Maybe they'd take Isabela up on her offer and join her crew for a while.

[Feuerwerke]

I definitely see my Hawke and Merrill as having joined Isabela's crew. They're already both female so biological children are out of the question anyway, but I can't picture my Hawke being a mother, and a setting like a pirate ship isn't a good place for them. Actually I kind of headcanon that the whole gang was on Isabela's ship for a while since that's how they escaped Kirkwall, then each one eventually goes their own way over time, some sooner than others. Hawke and Merrill stayed the longest, and only left because they had to, in some sort of situation where their presence was causing templars to go after Isabela and at one point she was cornered, so they had to gtfo to get them off her tail. My Hawke and Isabela were best friends, so she wasn't eager to leave at all. And Merrill was the cutest pirate ;3;