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[TEWR]

Faerunner wrote...

I personally don't think it's entirely impossible that the different religions are small facets of a greater divine power

More or less what I've always thought. All the religions are true, with the Maker being the greater divine power and the other gods are his creations.

[Face of Evil]

Faerunner wrote...

There are drastic differences in all Thedosian religions, but there are also common themes throughout them too. When you look closely, Thedas used to be predominently polytheistic (it seems the dwarves used to worship multiple gods, the elves worshipped the Creators, Tevinter worshipped the Old Gods, etc) but over time most people were streamlined into a more monotheistic route (modern dwarves now worship The Stone, most of Thedas has been converted to worship the Maker; and the few that don't are no longer in power.)

For a time. However, a point that many people forget is that Andraste returned Thedas to the worship of the Maker, who was regarded as the creator of the world by humans before the rise of the Tevinter Imperium.

[Face of Evil]

Does anyone know Merrill's last name? It suddenly occured to me last night that I don't know Merrill's last name.

The Dalish Warden had a first and last name, so I don't seen why Merrill shouldn't.

[LobselVith8]

Face of Evil wrote...

Does anyone know Merrill's last name? It suddenly occured to me last night that I don't know Merrill's last name.

The Dalish Warden had a first and last name, so I don't seen why Merrill shouldn't.

Like Keeper Marethari, Velanna, and Seranni, it's never mentioned if Merrill has a last name. I suppose it's possible, but it's never mentioned. I suppose the developers might know for certain.

[Face of Evil]

Well, thanks anyway, Lobsel.

[Jijan Dax]

It strikes me that in DA2 (which is retconned a little here and there) elves don't really HAVE a last name. So perhaps it is intentional. Who knows, it might be a very personal thing they only tell people close to them or something ^^

I miss Merrill, and most of the DA2 cast but mostly Merrill, I was so disappointed and sad that DA2 DLC's and expansions got cancelled .... I know there isn't a question in this statement and it's not relevant but I just wanted to say it. She's my favourite game character of all time, I miss her.

[Ulathar]

Jijan Dax wrote...
I miss Merrill, and most of the DA2 cast but mostly Merrill, I was so disappointed and sad that DA2 DLC's and expansions got cancelled .... I know there isn't a question in this statement and it's not relevant but I just wanted to say it.

You're not the only one. I also wish there had been more DA2 DLCs (with Merrill^^).

As for not having a last name, could that have something to do with being a Keeper or a First? Maybe because of their role as leader or future leader, they "discard" their family name as a symbol that they are/will be open-minded and won't offer preferential treatment but treat every clan member the same. Just a theory, of course.

[ChaplainTappman]

Well, really, the only Dalish who has a last name is the Warden, and realistically, that's only because they needed a way to refer to him/her. It's logical to assume that the others have family names, but they aren't as important as clan affiliation.

[Addictress]

It's my first time playing Dragon Age series, and Merrill is sooo funny snd cute! I adore her character!

I'm a straight female playing the default male Hawke, and I'm totally swooning over the prospect of this pairing! So cute. ;___;

Modifié par Addictress, 01 avril 2013 - 05:20 .

[caradoc2000]

Addictress wrote...

I'm totally swooning over the prospect of this pairing!

So is Carver, if you play a mage Hawke.

Modifié par caradoc2000, 01 avril 2013 - 05:41 .

[thats1evildude]

Yeah, she's pretty cute, though her story arc puts her through the ringer.

[Addictress]

caradoc2000 wrote...

Addictress wrote...

I'm totally swooning over the prospect of this pairing!

So is Carver, if you play a mage Hawke.

Wait, wat?  I am playing a mage.  But my Carver ran off to the templars!! How do I get this dialogue nao?? 

[GeminiParadox]

Faerunner wrote...

I've always liked Merrill as a character. I thought she was pretty and cute and sweet, but it wasn't until recently that I realized how much I actually like her insights and agree with her ideologies (along with Varric) more than anyone else in the game.

As a Dalish elf, she brings not only refreshing elvish insight to the overwhelmingly human Chantry-centered viewpoints (seriously, between Hawke, Anders, Justice, Sebastian, Elthina, Cullen, Meredith, and all the other Circle mages and Templars, I felt smothered by all the Andrastian human content in the game), but as a well-educated Keeper's First, she's able to take it a step further and challenge "universally accepted" human ideologies and viewpoints with elvish ones.

I love her insights, but also the insights other characters gain by talking to her.

I was going to post in this thread just to say how intelligent and insightful I think Merrill is, but you pretty much explained all the reasons I like what she brings to the group. She's a member of an entirely different race, let alone culture, and so it's refreshing to see the way she views the world. She isn't stupid or childish, IMO. She just doesn't quite understand human social interaction or values. And she's a reclusive person anyway. I admire her passion and desire to help her people, and I also like how she defies the stereotype of blood magic.

Playing as a female mage Hawke who cares about the freedom of mages but doesn't like Anders, Merrill just seems to fit as a romance option. I think my sarcastic Hawke and Merrill would be an interesting duo.

[caradoc2000]

Addictress wrote...

Wait, wat?  I am playing a mage.  But my Carver ran off to the templars!! How do I get this dialogue nao?? 

In the DLCs: Legacy and Mark of the Assassin. It only works, if your Hawke does not romance Merrill, though. They make an adorable, mutually awkward couple.

[Tigerking]

So has this already been discussed to death:
http://ladyinsanity....ioware-pax-east
Specifically, the part saying that Merrill fixing the mirror was "a bad call"?

[Ulathar]

Well, who knows what 'bad call' in this case means. Maybe I won't mind the consequences of that particular decisions or maybe I'll be angry or whatever, but until I experience them I'll go with my current view on the matter.

Meaning I agree with Faerunner on this. From what my Hawke knows about the Eluvian it's not evil in itself, it's just something magical that is currently broken and if fixed, could reveal much about the past of the elves and could prove useful. Neither Hawke nor Merrill know exactly what it does, so why not find out. If it's dangerous they can break it again (or something) but then at least know for sure. So I'm definitely sticking with my choice and since I make my decisions in-character I'd do the same thing even after knowing what'd happen. :-)

[Tigerking]

I agree with you on the weird choice of BioWare making this ambiguous choice apparently have a right answer - it does seem pretty damn silly. I always thought Marethari's arguments were full of holes, even if they were supposed to be "right".

And Bioware took a pretty major thematic turn in DA2 regarding how sensitive people were towards blood magic/demons, in case anyone forgot - demons seem to be nigh-irresistible to anyone in Kirkwall. Literally everything in the whole damn city seems tainted and predestined to go horribly wrong - the Eluvian restoration included, apparently.

However, until I know for certain it results in catastrophic consequences in DA3 for Merrill, I'm still going Friendship. If the consequences are that dire, I'll just have to bite the bullet and rationalize going the other way, I guess. I'm not strong enough to hang with choices with consequences I can't abide by, even if they're IC.

[GeminiParadox]

I just can't bring myself to go with the Rivalry path for Merrill. Hawke doesn't have to support blood magic or demons to reach 100% Friendship with her. I managed it in Act 2 just by supporting mages in general and being kind to her. No one accepts Merrill except Varric and Isabela. Anders and Fenris are outright cruel to her because they hate blood magic. So for Hawke to rival Merrill just seems to make her even more alone and hating herself. I can't bring myself to do that because she is a good person.

The way I see it, Merrill may be using blood magic, but the only shady thing she does is support dealing with demons. That would be the one thing I don't see Hawke supporting because she worries for Merrill's safety. But fixing the mirror doesn't seem to have an inherent danger. It's possible that Marethari was wrong about the demon using it to possess Merrill. It's also quite possible that Merrill would be able to resist its possession.

Merrill's passion for restoring a part of her culture is admirable. At the very least, I support letting her make her own choice.

[LobselVith8]

Tigerking wrote...

So has this already been discussed to death:
http://ladyinsanity....ioware-pax-east
Specifically, the part saying that Merrill fixing the mirror was "a bad call"?

I suppose it was a 'bad call' on Merrill's part to think that Marethari wouldn't endanger the entire clan by becoming an abomination, leading to the clan possibly attempting to murder her in cold blood unless Hawke coddles them like little children. At least, that's how I look at it, because it's asinine to think that Marethari's baseless assumptions should be taken the same way as Merrill's intellectual pursuits into the lore she gathered about the Eluvian and her study of the shard.

[thats1evildude]

I think the "bad call" in this context was having Merrill's quest revolve around fixing the Eluvian and never going anywhere with it.
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I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with Merrill's story in DA2, as it's a nice little tragedy, albeit one that could be averted with better communication. But then, poor communication is at the core of most tragedies.

If there was a mistake made, it was the lack of explanation as to the actual benefits of restoring the Eluvian. If Merrill had said something to the effect of "The Eluvian contains the secrets of the Elven civilization" or somesuch, her quest would be a bit justified. As it is, it seems like she's given up everything to restore a weird mirror that killed her friend(s).

Modifié par thats1evildude, 15 avril 2013 - 06:48 .

[Tigerking]

thats1evildude wrote...

I think the "bad call" in this context was having Merrill's quest revolve around fixing the Eluvian and never going anywhere with it.
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I wouldn't say there's anything wrong with Merrill's story in DA2, as it's a nice little tragedy, albeit one that could be averted with better communication. But then, poor communication is at the core of most tragedies.

If there was a mistake made, it was the lack of explanation as to the actual benefits of restoring the Eluvian. If Merrill had said something to the effect of "The Eluvian contains the secrets of the Elven civilization" or somesuch, her quest would be a bit justified. As it is, it seems like she's given up everything to restore a weird mirror that killed her friend(s).

Nobody in DA2 is willing enough or capable enough to explain themselves rationally.
Or if they are, ABSOLUTELY nobody is willing to listen to them. And they usually die.
Although I get the feeling Merrill probably tried to drive that point into the Keeper's skull for months before her and Hawke met. Not much point saying it again.

[Knight of Dane]

I just realized how badly Merrill's Act 2 quest and questioning beleifs are handled. For the first time I went through rivaling her but handing her the Arulin'holm and she was still angry at Hawke for messing up her work x)

[thats1evildude]

Yes, that is a flaw with the friendship/rivalry system. It's possible to rival Anders and be a huge supporter of mages, but he thinks you give free hugs to templars.

I do think it was a step in the right direction, since it leads to more nuanced relationships than simply "Agree with everything I say". But it needs some work.

[Knight of Dane]

Indeed, it would help the system a lot to not rely on the meter only at the very least.