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[Eorion_Moonwing]

@Addai67
I think that difference between DA2 and DAO male elves better seen on this shot (people seems to not like this particular screen for some reasons).Here at least we have the same  angle and not Fenris looking down, add his bangs that partially cover his eyes. [

Modifié par Eorion_Moonwing, 13 janvier 2011 - 07:57 .

[Zjarcal]

Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, I'll have to see more shots, but I'm stuck on my Marvin the Martian first impression.   

Modifié par Zjarcal, 13 janvier 2011 - 07:55 .

[jackkel dragon]

If Merrill falls to the dark side, it's my fault.

Edit: My god, Merrill is awesome no matter what people drop on her head...

Modifié par jackkel dragon, 13 janvier 2011 - 07:55 .

[RamonIAm]

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Is it ever explicitedly shown that blood magic controls peoples minds or is that Chantry propoganda to stop the mages creating another empire based on Blood magic because it's so powerful.

I know that blood magic is dark what with sacrifycing lifeforce but I never got the impression it could control ones will.

Hmm... one of the abilities you get in the blood magic tree is "mind control" (which allows you to turn an enemy into an ally, even strong enemies, though not bosses), so, yeah, it's as confirmed as something can be

[RamonIAm]

Addai67 wrote...

Face of Evil wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

I wonder if darkspawn blood counts as fuel for blood magic.

AWAKENING SPOILER!

After the Warden was trapped in the Fade by the darkspawn disciple known as The First, the Baroness used his life force to send the Warden and Justice to the physical world.

However, he was a Disciple. That set him apart from other darkspawn.

Darkspawn use a kind of blood magic to power their spells, so I'm gonna say yes, their blood "counts."  Also Avernus' experiments were based on the idea of the Wardens' tainted blood having more power than the usual kind.  If you use Power of Blood talents, it's basically blood magic.

Anyway, I guess this is o/t.  I'm awaiting more shots on the elf redesign.  Kinda not happy that my elf Wardens don't really look like I thought they look.    They're just flat-ears, I guess (and proud of it!).

Not to mention blood wound actually works BETTER on darkspawn than on anything else, I guess this is proof of Avernus' claim that the tainted blood strenghthens blood magic.

[ViSeiRa]

RamonIAm wrote...

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Is it ever explicitedly shown that blood magic controls peoples minds or is that Chantry propoganda to stop the mages creating another empire based on Blood magic because it's so powerful.

I know that blood magic is dark what with sacrifycing lifeforce but I never got the impression it could control ones will.

Hmm... one of the abilities you get in the blood magic tree is "mind control" (which allows you to turn an enemy into an ally, even strong enemies, though not bosses), so, yeah, it's as confirmed as something can be

Do we even know that "Blood Control" still exists in DA2?

[RamonIAm]

ViSeirA wrote...

RamonIAm wrote...

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Is it ever explicitedly shown that blood magic controls peoples minds or is that Chantry propoganda to stop the mages creating another empire based on Blood magic because it's so powerful.

I know that blood magic is dark what with sacrifycing lifeforce but I never got the impression it could control ones will.

Hmm... one of the abilities you get in the blood magic tree is "mind control" (which allows you to turn an enemy into an ally, even strong enemies, though not bosses), so, yeah, it's as confirmed as something can be

Do we even know that "Blood Control" still exists in DA2?

Even if the ability is not available anymore (which would be pretty stupid I dare say... I mean, it's one of the main points of blood magic), the fact that it can be done is still there.

[RamonIAm]

Sorry for the possible double-post, but seeing the argument between those in favor of blood magic and those against it, I have to take the neutral position.





I am not of the idea blood-magic should be forbidden or anything like that, but the fact that it's dangerous and can lead to disastrous effects cannot be ignored, and from what we saw in Origins, that's what usually happens, no matter how powerful the mage is.



I think the answer to "Can blood magic be used without evil consequences?" is the same as the answer to "Are there other intelligent lifeforms in the universe?"



It's theoritically possible and even easy to explain, but we are still to see proof of it.

[Eorion_Moonwing]

@Addai67

And here is comparison between that Fenris shot and Merrill. They clearly have the same fasial structure. The only big difference aside sexual dimorphism -its ears angle:

[Addai]

Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

@Addai67
I think that difference between DA2 and DAO male elves better seen on this shot (people seems to not like this particular screen for some reasons).Here at least we have the same  angle and not Fenris looking down, add his bangs that partially cover his eyes.
*snip*

  I see absolutely no difference in eye size between the two of them.

Modifié par Addai67, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:13 .

[Gill Kaiser]

I think Merrill looks great. Then again, I've always enjoyed the artstyles of various animes and mangas, so I guess I'm naturally pre-disposed to characters being slightly big-eyed and elfin.

[Blastback]

Zjarcal wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, I'll have to see more shots, but I'm stuck on my Marvin the Martian first impression.   

• Oh, that wasn't a bit nice...You have made me very angry... very angry indeed!

[Eclipse_9990]

Zjarcal wrote...

Addai67 wrote...
Yeah, I'll have to see more shots, but I'm stuck on my Marvin the Martian first impression.   

Its crazy.. No matter what people put on her.. She still looks cute..

[EnforcerGREG]

Does anyone think that blood magic may have medical purposes?

NOTE I don't mean draining others just to get rid of a few rinkles or prolonging your life, which is one of my theroys on how the elves acheived immortality. I mean can it cure injury or disease or increase chances of conception?. (Anora)

Modifié par EnforcerGREG, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:24 .

[Maria Caliban]

ViSeirA wrote...

Do we even know that "Blood Control" still exists in DA2?

It might not be a talent that the PC or their companions can have, but it still exists in the lore.

The ability for blood magic to influence the mind is one of the reasons it's most feared.

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Does anyone think that blood magic may have medical purposes?

NOTE I don't mean draining others just to get rid of a few rinkles or prolonging your life, which is one of my theroys on how the elves acheived immortality. I mean can it cure injury or disease or increase chances of conception?. (Anora)

The Dark Ritual says 'yes' to the last one.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:25 .

[Tiax Rules All]

I dont care what others say. she looks perfect to me.. I was hoping for a female Elf and an Elf redesign, i got them both.. now to do something bout that pesky blood magic

[Eclipse_9990]

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Does anyone think that blood magic may have medical purposes

NOTE I don't mean draining others just to get rid of a few rinkles or prolonging your life, which is one of my theroys on how the elves acheived immortality. I mean can it cure injury or disease or increase chances of conception. (Anora)

Yes blood magic can heal.. 

[Eclipse_9990]

ViSeirA wrote...

RamonIAm wrote...

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Is it ever explicitedly shown that blood magic controls peoples minds or is that Chantry propoganda to stop the mages creating another empire based on Blood magic because it's so powerful.

I know that blood magic is dark what with sacrifycing lifeforce but I never got the impression it could control ones will.

Hmm... one of the abilities you get in the blood magic tree is "mind control" (which allows you to turn an enemy into an ally, even strong enemies, though not bosses), so, yeah, it's as confirmed as something can be

Do we even know that "Blood Control" still exists in DA2?

Yup.. Take a good long look at the last blood magic spell here..
http://ps3media.ign....12105202006.jpg

Its the same Blood Control design in Origins.. 

[Eorion_Moonwing]

Addai67 wrote...


  I see absolutely no difference in eye size between the two of them.

Perhaps the difference is not huge...if elven males were gifted with the eye like one of Merrill it would be too much even for me=). Maybe that because of the cat-like iris size...don't know.

 But I hope you will agree with me  that we need more screenshots of elves of both genders, becouse now its like : I see blue sofa  while you see red keyhole while looking in the  keyhole.

You hope that elves changed as little as possible, while  I hope that there is nothing left of DA:O elves.We see what we want to see and perhaps the truth is in between. 

Too little info for constructive discussion...at least for now.

Modifié par Eorion_Moonwing, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:33 .

[Maria Caliban]

As I understand it, any normal spell can be cast with blood, making it blood magic. There are also things that are blood magic specific.

[Gill Kaiser]

I hope that the Keeper specialisation is more developed in DA2 than it was in DA:A. I'd like it if Merrill was somewhat of a druid. The blood mage thing I can take or leave, as I'm planning to make Hawke one anyway.

[BTCentral]

Well, I dug out my gaphics tablet for the first time in two years or so... only to find it doesn't work properly anymore and clicks way before it touches the pad, so scrap that idea.

I did however manage to sharpen her facial tatoos a fair bit using a mouse, much easier to see them now

[JoHnDoE14]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont care what others say. she looks perfect to me.. I was hoping for a female Elf and an Elf redesign, i got them both.. now to do something bout that pesky blood magic

 Exactly my thoughts!
I hope however, that it would at least be possible to enter rivalry mode just because of her being a blood mage.

[DragonOfWhiteThunder]

EnforcerGREG wrote...

Does anyone think that blood magic may have medical purposes?

NOTE I don't mean draining others just to get rid of a few rinkles or prolonging your life, which is one of my theroys on how the elves acheived immortality. I mean can it cure injury or disease or increase chances of conception?. (Anora)

Well, while casting Heal on yourself is less effective while using Blood Magic, you can cast it on others at full strength. So yes, you can kill yourself to keep others alive.

...that's probably not what you meant, though. I'd say healing magic can benefit from being fueled by the caster's blood, but there's not likely specific healing utlizing it outside of Blood Sacrifice.

[Eclipse_9990]

Maria Caliban wrote...

As I understand it, any normal spell can be cast with blood, making it blood magic. There are also things that are blood magic specific.

Exactly. Here's the codex description of Blood Magic..

Part of Codex Entry..

Blood Magic: The Forbidden School[/b][/b]

" The ancient
Tevinters did not originally consider blood magic a school of its own. Rather,
they saw it as a means to achieve greater power in any school of magic. The
name, of course, refers to the fact that magic of this type uses life,
specifically in the form of blood, instead of mana. It was common practice,
at one time, for a magister to keep a number of slaves on hand so that, should
he undertake the working of a spell that was physically beyond his abilities,
he could use the blood of his slaves to bolster the casting. "




 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:36 .