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BTCentral wrote...

Well, I dug out my gaphics tablet for the first time in two years or so... only to find it doesn't work properly anymore and clicks way before it touches the pad, so scrap that idea. :(

I did however manage to sharpen her facial tatoos a fair bit using a mouse, much easier to see them now :)


It's interesting to note the differences between her original blood writting. Will we ever learn to what god each design is dedicated...?

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JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont care what others say. she looks perfect to me.. I was hoping for a female Elf and an Elf redesign, i got them both.. now to do something bout that pesky blood magic


 Exactly my thoughts!
I hope however, that it would at least be possible to enter rivalry mode just because of her being a blood mage.


yeah, thats what im thinking right now... she will not like you taking her blood magic away... which I will most certainly be doing

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...What is she even doing with Hawke? I meant, I'm ovejoyed but Goodness, it's feel strange.





Also, I LOVE The new Fighting style, it's so fast.

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont care what others say. she looks perfect to me.. I was hoping for a female Elf and an Elf redesign, i got them both.. now to do something bout that pesky blood magic


 Exactly my thoughts!
I hope however, that it would at least be possible to enter rivalry mode just because of her being a blood mage.


yeah, thats what im thinking right now... she will not like you taking her blood magic away... which I will most certainly be doing


Why though? Blood Magic makes her stronger, which makes her a more valuable party member.. 
I don't see how people can just ignore the obvious benefits of Blood Magic.. 

Sigh... Though it seems like Merrill and I are going to have a friendly romance rather than the rivalry one I wanted.. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:43 .


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Maria Caliban wrote...

As I understand it, any normal spell can be cast with blood, making it blood magic. There are also things that are blood magic specific.


Which begs the question of what's actually the difference between using blood and lyrium... all mages have mana, some restore/utilize it using lyrium and others using blood, if any spell can be cast with blood then why does it have some things that are nearly impossible to do with lyrium (read. entering the fade).... I hope we get to know more about Blood Magic in DA2, our knowledge of it is vague at best up till now.

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BTCentral wrote...

Well, I dug out my gaphics tablet for the first time in two years or so... only to find it doesn't work properly anymore and clicks way before it touches the pad, so scrap that idea. :(

I did however manage to sharpen her facial tatoos a fair bit using a mouse, much easier to see them now :)


Great work, I actually tried doing that and all I got was pixelation, it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

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Eorion_Moonwing wrote...

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And here is comparison between that Fenris shot and Merrill. They clearly have the same fasial structure. The only big difference aside sexual dimorphism -its ears angle:

Merrill's ears supposedly only appear this way because she's looking up. Fenris on the other hand is looking down. Expecting them to be pretty much the same at the same angle, just like it's the case in DAO.

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont care what others say. she looks perfect to me.. I was hoping for a female Elf and an Elf redesign, i got them both.. now to do something bout that pesky blood magic


 Exactly my thoughts!
I hope however, that it would at least be possible to enter rivalry mode just because of her being a blood mage.


yeah, thats what im thinking right now... she will not like you taking her blood magic away... which I will most certainly be doing


I'm not certain that's possible. Yes, I suppose you could berate her about it at every opportunity, and make sure any blood magic-related spells are never cast through her tactics, but while you can make a blood mage swear not to use blood magic, it doesn't change the fact that they know the spell and can turn to it again at any time. The only way to ensure that she doesn't use blood magic again is to make her Tranquil (why would you do that?!) or cut off her hands (see previous).

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Eorion_Moonwing wrote...
Perhaps the difference is not huge...if elven males were gifted with the eye like one of Merrill it would be too much even for me=). Maybe that because of the cat-like iris size...don't know.

 But I hope you will agree with me  that we need more screenshots of elves of both genders, becouse now its like : I see blue sofa  while you see red keyhole while looking in the  keyhole.

You hope that elves changed as little as possible, while  I hope that there is nothing left of DA:O elves.We see what we want to see and perhaps the truth is in between. 

Too little info for constructive discussion...at least for now.;)

Sure, we need more.  Though I'm also working off Gaider's comments that they purposely changed the profile, bone structure, stature, etc.  Merrill's eyes no doubt look huge especially because her head is so small.

DA elven appearance is obviously an evolving thing.  In the books elves are said to have cat-like, unsettling eyes, usually light (Fiona's dark eyes are supposedly rare).  Can't say I'd call Merrill's eyes cat-like and they look pretty dark.  Fenris' more fit that description.

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Actually if she does have Blood Magic abilities in her unique tree then you can't do anything but wait for a respec mod... because I think at least every companion will start with one available ability in their unique tree.

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Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

JoHnDoE14 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

I dont care what others say. she looks perfect to me.. I was hoping for a female Elf and an Elf redesign, i got them both.. now to do something bout that pesky blood magic


 Exactly my thoughts!
I hope however, that it would at least be possible to enter rivalry mode just because of her being a blood mage.


yeah, thats what im thinking right now... she will not like you taking her blood magic away... which I will most certainly be doing


Why though? Blood Magic makes her stronger, which makes her a more valuable party member.. 
I don't see how people can just ignore the obvious benefits of Blood Magic.. 

Sigh... Seems like Merrill and I are going to have a friendly romance rather than the rivalry one I wanted.. 


I mentioned many times before, i dont like it at all, never used it, never let anybody else use it. I would have it removed from the game if I could. My mage damn strong without ever using it.
I just think the concept is dumb, the excessive blood flying around and pouring out of you is dumb, I just really really dont like it. Sorry if my explaination sucks but my views prob will not change at all through DA2, im seeing respec mod in second playtrough on probably

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As I understand it:



All spells require energy, which is represented in the game as mana. However, certain spells require more energy than a single mage can handle, like sending another mage into the Fade.



Lyrium can help provide that energy, but blood — the life force of a living being — is a far more potent energy source. It's like burning coal vs. nuclear fission: the former is nowhere near as efficient as the latter.

#2038
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^ whatever, I dont like it

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I'll just repeat my stance that a blood mage Merrill would make SQUEEEEEE very loud. :wizard:

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ViSeirA wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

As I understand it, any normal spell can be cast with blood, making it blood magic. There are also things that are blood magic specific.


Which begs the question of what's actually the difference between using blood and lyrium... all mages have mana, some restore/utilize it using lyrium and others using blood, if any spell can be cast with blood then why does it have some things that are nearly impossible to do with lyrium (read. entering the fade).... I hope we get to know more about Blood Magic in DA2, our knowledge of it is vague at best up till now.


The developers have said that the Veil isn't a barrier as much as a perception. The Fade isn't a separate world but exists alongside our own. Lyrium appears to be 'materialized Fade.' Perhaps blood is a source of mana because it's 'Fadized material.'

That is, like lyrium, its properties combine elements of both the Fade and material realm but unlike lyrium, it's based in the material, so native material beings can utilize it in ways they can't use lyrium.

Which begs the question: Are spirits able to use lyrium or blood for something? Or are there equivalent 'substances?'

For example, we know that where there's been a great deal of death, the Veil is thin. We know that spirits 'feed' off mortal emotions and concepts. From the Fade point of view, are concepts like little lyrium deposits? Nodes of power that sort of force their way from the mortal to the fade realms and can be tapped into?

Could we say that spirits draw power from and become addicted to concepts/emotions the way mages and templars draw power from and become addicted to lyrium?

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LOL I hope the people saying "omg she's not allowed to use blood magic" were not the same ones saying "of course Isabela should dress like a street walker, you're not the boss of her."

Modifié par Addai67, 13 janvier 2011 - 08:55 .


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I have no problem with someone using blood magic if they're using their blood. Or if they're using the blood of someone else after that person has given consent to do it. Merill doesn't seem like the kind that's going to murder random people to power her spells and as long as she doesn't I have no problem with her.

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Tiax Rules All wrote...

^ whatever, I dont like it



We get it, bro  :lol:
Easy with the caffeine...   ^_^

Modifié par Drizzt ORierdan, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:33 .


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So you'd remove her lore-given, character defining skills so that she'd fit into the kind of character you would like? It's like taking away Morrigan's shapeshifting spec or Alistair's Templar spec.



Hopefully, blood magic or no we'll get to see some interesting Dalish magic.

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Face of Evil wrote...

As I understand it:

All spells require energy, which is represented in the game as mana. However, certain spells require more energy than a single mage can handle, like sending another mage into the Fade.

Lyrium can help provide that energy, but blood — the life force of a living being — is a far more potent energy source. It's like burning coal vs. nuclear fission: the former is nowhere near as efficient as the latter.


Couldn't have said  it better...

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Addai67 wrote...
Sure, we need more.  Though I'm also working off Gaider's comments that they purposely changed the profile, bone structure, stature, etc.  Merrill's eyes no doubt look huge especially because her head is so small.

DA elven appearance is obviously an evolving thing.  In the books elves are said to have cat-like, unsettling eyes, usually light (Fiona's dark eyes are supposedly rare).  Can't say I'd call Merrill's eyes cat-like and they look pretty dark.  Fenris' more fit that description.

Profile is a nose that come straight from the eyebrow ridge I assume.

Humans, even with the most straight noses have  small deepening in between eyebrows ridge and  nose bridge, while elves do not. Like Na`vi. So there is no snub-nosed elves at all. 

And its a skull shape difference that the mighty D.G was talking about. Like new emissary skull.And I will not sleep well until I find out  how elven high have changed-_-.

But the all-knowing one will never tell...:crying:

Modifié par Eorion_Moonwing, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:03 .


#2047
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blood is stronger then mana? my mage could cast plenty of firestorms without cutting himself open or using potions. I will teach Merrill the right way to use magic and she wont have to cut herself or bleed all over her nice scarf

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What's wrong with blood magic? It's like the more extreme version of donating blood (lots of blood) - it's for the greater good!
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And.. this is why I stay out of the Fenris thread. Because no matter how great the character is, the fans creep me the hell out.

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Addai67 wrote...

LOL I hope the people saying "omg she's not allowed to use blood magic" were not the same ones saying "of course Isabela should dress like a street walker, you're not the boss of her."


Well, the person who dislikes it the most appears to be Taix and he's objected to quite a number of Dragon Age II's changes. In fact, he's the guy who put out the first Hot Rod Samurai magazine.