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[Eclipse_9990]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

blood is stronger then mana? my mage could cast plenty of firestorms without cutting himself open or using potions. I will teach Merrill the right way to use magic and she wont have to cut herself or bleed all over her nice scarf

Blood is stronger than mana.. With mana if you want to go in the fade you need a ton of mages, and a ton of lyrium. With blood you need just one sacrifice. With Mana you cant summon powerful demons(as far as I know) but with blood you can.. Also lore wise Blood Magic pretty much makes every usual spell stronger.

Also its nice to have ways to cast spells in case you run out of mana.. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:10 .

[Tiax Rules All]

Yeah Hot Rod Samurai Magazine is my baby... wanna help me with issue 3?
we were able to tell plenty of peeps not to use blood magic in DAo why is it different know..
Oh and I think Hawke kinda IS the boss of her..

Modifié par Tiax Rules All, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:17 .

[ViSeiRa]

Maria Caliban wrote...

The developers have said that the Veil isn't a barrier as much as a perception. The Fade isn't a separate world but exists alongside our own. Lyrium appears to be 'materialized Fade.' Perhaps blood is a source of mana because it's 'Fadized material.'

That is, like lyrium, its properties combine elements of both the Fade and material realm but unlike lyrium, it's based in the material, so native material beings can utilize it in ways they can't use lyrium.

Which begs the question: Are spirits able to use lyrium or blood for something? Or are there equivalent 'substances?'

For example, we know that where there's been a great deal of death, the Veil is thin. We know that spirits 'feed' off mortal emotions and concepts. From the Fade point of view, are concepts like little lyrium deposits? Nodes of power that sort of force their way from the mortal to the fade realms and can be tapped into?

Could we say that spirits draw power from and become addicted to concepts/emotions the way mages and templars draw power from and become addicted to lyrium?

Is it actually possible that's the reason why demons are drawn to the mortal world? or that mortals' spirits travel into the fade after death... that there's always a piece of them that exists in both places The Fade and the normal world at the same time, if the chantry believe lyriums is "The waters of the fade" and that the maker created the entire world from it then that's probably why the demons come here, as you said emotions can be like lyrium deposits for them and we know they always create their domains in the fade to be like what they see in dreams.

[SirOccam]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

blood is stronger then mana? my mage could cast plenty of firestorms without cutting himself open or using potions.

That doesn't prove that mana is stronger. Blood mages can cast plenty of firestorms too. It's just that they can ALSO do things like mind control. It seems reasonable to conclude, then, that blood is at least part of what allows them to do this.

Also, it doesn't have to be their own blood.

[Face of Evil]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

blood is stronger then mana? my mage could cast plenty of firestorms without cutting himself open or using potions.

Sure, because Firestorm is well within the abilities of the average mage. However, something like trapping an entire village within the Fade or creating a werewolf curse is not something your average mage can pull off. Such things are only possible with the AWESOME POWER of blood magic.

Which is why I don't like it.

Modifié par Face of Evil, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:27 .

[Eclipse_9990]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Yeah Hot Rod Samurai Magazine is my baby... wanna help me with issue 3?
we were able to tell plent of peeps not to use blood magic in DAo why is it different know..
Oh and I think Hawke kinda IS the boss of her..

That doesn't sound controlling at all.. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:22 .

[Saibh]

SirOccam wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

blood is stronger then mana? my mage could cast plenty of firestorms without cutting himself open or using potions.

That doesn't prove that mana is stronger. Blood mages can cast plenty of firestorms too. It's just that they can ALSO do things like mind control. It seems reasonable to conclude, then, that blood is at least part of what allows them to do this.

Also, it doesn't have to be their own blood.

I agree that, in-game, blood magic doesn't make you that powerful. That was a balance issue for the already super-powered mages. However, in terms of story, blood magic is an incredibly powerful talent that allows you to do things with magic you can't otherwise. For instance, it takes, like, three Circle Mages and the First Enchanter to do what Jowan does by himself. He's also able to incapacitate several templars, the Knight-Commander, and the First Enchanter with one spell.

[BTCentral]

ViSeirA wrote...

it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

Modifié par BTCentral, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:23 .

[Tiax Rules All]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Yeah Hot Rod Samurai Magazine is my baby... wanna help me with issue 3?
we were able to tell plent of peeps not to use blood magic in DAo why is it different know..
Oh and I think Hawke kinda IS the boss of her..

Wow.. That doesn't sound controlling at all.. 

in this case I think you are the one that deserves the Wow, Every group has a leader, Hawke is that leader, If my Hawke doesn't want her to use blood magic then she wont, or will hear about it at least. Just as a member killing innocents or stealing from people I want to help.. the will be part of the group and follow the rules.. thats just what happens.. i mean we all did it in DAo

[Eclipse_9990]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Yeah Hot Rod Samurai Magazine is my baby... wanna help me with issue 3?
we were able to tell plent of peeps not to use blood magic in DAo why is it different know..
Oh and I think Hawke kinda IS the boss of her..

Wow.. That doesn't sound controlling at all.. 

in this case I think you are the one that deserves the Wow, Every group has a leader, Hawke is that leader, If my Hawke doesn't want her to use blood magic then she wont, or will hear about it at least. Just as a member killing innocents or stealing from people I want to help.. the will be part of the group and follow the rules.. thats just what happens.. i mean we all did it in DAo

Well the thing is the're her abilities not yours, also I assume  they kind of served her well enough before Hawke came along considering she's defending her use of it.. Just because someones the leader doesn't give them the right to control your life and every decision you make or have made... This is how mutinies happen..
(I know companions wont actually leave you in this game but its just an example..)

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:30 .

[Tiax Rules All]

BTCentral wrote...

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

...for the better not a big fan of the facial tatoos normally but this one i working.

[SirOccam]

Eclipse_9990 wrote...

This is how mutinies happen.. (I know companions wont actually leave you in this game but its just an example..)

They can, actually. Just not because you are a jerk to them in dialogue.

Modifié par SirOccam, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:30 .

[Tiax Rules All]

@eclipse

she will be fine with it..

[Eclipse_9990]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

@eclipse
she will be fine with it..

You don't really know that... But fine.. We'll see what happens when the game is out. 

[Blacklash93]

BTCentral wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

Are the blood markings on an elf permanent, or can they be changed?

[bsbcaer]

Quick question: Has it been confirmed that Merril uses blood magic? Or is everyone making this assumption based on the fact that Hawke was talking about blood magic in a forest setting?

[Eclipse_9990]

Blacklash93 wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

Are the blood markings on an elf permanent, or can they be changed?

Well considering the're tattooed on her face.. I'm guessing the're permanent.. 

Modifié par Eclipse_9990, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:44 .

[Katana_Master]

Blacklash93 wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

Are the blood markings on an elf permanent, or can they be changed?

They're tattoos.  I assume that they're as permanant as any normal tattoo.

[tmp7704]

Tiax Rules All wrote...

Oh and I think Hawke kinda IS the boss of her..

Hope she gets paid a good wage, then.

[DragonOfWhiteThunder]

I imagine that they're supposed to be permanent. I imagine that the two designs have the same meaning, and it's completely the difference in how we're seeing the world (read: art direction shift).

[Maria Caliban]

bsbcaer wrote...

Quick question: Has it been confirmed that Merril uses blood magic? Or is everyone making this assumption based on the fact that Hawke was talking about blood magic in a forest setting?

It has not been confirmed that:

Merrill is a companion
Merrill is a love interest
Merrill uses a form of blood magic

The last is based on a preview from a gaming magazine.

[Blacklash93]

Katana_Master wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

Are the blood markings on an elf permanent, or can they be changed?

They're tattoos.  I assume that they're as permanant as any normal tattoo.

I just don't see any reason why Bioware would redesign them. Or change her eye color for that matter.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 13 janvier 2011 - 09:41 .

[mellifera]

Blacklash93 wrote...

Katana_Master wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

BTCentral wrote...

ViSeirA wrote...

it does have some differences than her Origins' blood writing but if you don't directly compare you might not notice the difference.

Indeed, overall it's fairly similar, but it definately changed.

Are the blood markings on an elf permanent, or can they be changed?

They're tattoos.  I assume that they're as permanant as any normal tattoo.

I just don't see any reason why Bioware would redesign them. Or change her eye color for that matter

Because they wanted to?

[Blackout62]

Well if she is a blood mage let's just all remember what the narrator from Fight Club taught us: You can lose a pint of blood without getting sick.

[lightwarrior179]

I think the tattoos on the faces of the Dalish were some sort of blood writing with some sort of significance to elven gods. I doubt anything like that would be temporary seeing how they're a mark of them being Dalish.