"No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all." -Gaider
That should include the death epilogue. An arrow in the neck is hard to explain away, but I'm sure they could come up with something, if they wanted to. Don't know how believable it would be, but that hardly matters.
The sixth party member..
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#78
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 01:14
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preciousmetal wrote...
"No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all." -Gaider
That should include the death epilogue. An arrow in the neck is hard to explain away, but I'm sure they could come up with something, if they wanted to. Don't know how believable it would be, but that hardly matters.
"I got better".
It explains everything.
#79
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 01:24
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madsabroo wrote...
Kazanth wrote...
"If left to defend the Keep without enough upgrades to it, he is found dead with an arrow through his neck with hundreds of darkspawn dead in a circle around him; none were touched with a blade, but all were felled by magic."
I won't complain if he lives anyway but I don't see how surviving an arrow through his neck can be explained easily.
How many times does it have to be pointed out that the devs have said the epilogues could be changed AND, not to mention, how many major changes have we already seen? Entire races have been overhauled, changing the outcome of one particular epilogue is nothing by comparison.
But there's a line and explaining away a character's death (a death that technically happens during the game) or even worse saying that it never really happened crosses it for me. I can accept that they wanted to change races and similar things but I can't just ignore being told a companion is dead and then being given that same companion in a sequel. I can live with whatever they decide to do with him but I still don't have to be happy with it.
#80
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 01:28
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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...
We're discussing the sixth party member in here.
Hey! Don't try and steal my posters! Go back to your own thread!
Oh.. And you might want to put a picture of Hawkes badass jacket in your thread.. Just saying..
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#81
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 01:43
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ACWolfe wrote...
Whoever this human male mage is, he's guaranteed himself a spot amongst fem!Hawke, Fenris and Seb. Sorry, Carver! Maybe next time.
Haha, I know! Three hunky young male party members (four counting Carver)? When's the last time that happened?!
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#82
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 01:47
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I hope it's Anders.
It can't be Prince Sensitive, since he's DLC. I also highly doubt ot the point of believing it can't be Anders, because then we'd have two class-party members that are carry overs.
#83
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 01:52
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Xewaka wrote...
preciousmetal wrote...
"No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all." -Gaider
That should include the death epilogue. An arrow in the neck is hard to explain away, but I'm sure they could come up with something, if they wanted to. Don't know how believable it would be, but that hardly matters.
"I got better".
It explains everything.
Lol. I could see Anders saying that, too.
After today's dev diary, and a screenshot that I've never seen before, I really do think that Anders is the sixth party member.
I'm not convinced that Merrill is the returning companion. They're obviously holding back a male mage, and it would make sense to announce the returning character last. ...Or it could be like the Garrus reveal, and we won't know until the 8th. ):
Considering that all of the party members so far are so pointedly different from the Origins ones, I don't see why they'd go with a blonde, human male mage that wasn't Anders.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:02
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preciousmetal wrote...
Xewaka wrote...
preciousmetal wrote...
"No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all." -Gaider
That should include the death epilogue. An arrow in the neck is hard to explain away, but I'm sure they could come up with something, if they wanted to. Don't know how believable it would be, but that hardly matters.
"I got better".
It explains everything.
Lol. I could see Anders saying that, too.
After today's dev diary, and a screenshot that I've never seen before, I really do think that Anders is the sixth party member.
I'm not convinced that Merrill is the returning companion. They're obviously holding back a male mage, and it would make sense to announce the returning character last. ...Or it could be like the Garrus reveal, and we won't know until the 8th. ):
Considering that all of the party members so far are so pointedly different from the Origins ones, I don't see why they'd go with a blonde, human male mage that wasn't Anders.
Wait what? Why not? As I remember when they said returning companion they said returning companion from Origins last time I checked Anders was never in Origins. And they pretty much have announced it.. Its Merill.. Just wade through the bull**** in the Merrill appreciation thread and you'll know..
http://social.biowar...ndex/5682342/14
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:07
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Actually, Laidlaw said "from Dragon Age 1." And Awakening is pretty much considered a part of Origins, anyway.
Merrill could be the returning companion, but I'm still skeptical. I think she's too minor of a character to be hyped up as the returning party member. Plus, this came from Laidlaw. If it were Gaider or someone else, I would suspect trickery. But he tends to be more straightforward, from what I've seen.
Merrill could be the returning companion, but I'm still skeptical. I think she's too minor of a character to be hyped up as the returning party member. Plus, this came from Laidlaw. If it were Gaider or someone else, I would suspect trickery. But he tends to be more straightforward, from what I've seen.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:09
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preciousmetal wrote...
Actually, Laidlaw said "from Dragon Age 1." And Awakening is pretty much considered a part of Origins, anyway.
Merrill could be the returning companion, but I'm still skeptical. I think she's too minor of a character to be hyped up as the returning party member. Plus, this came from Laidlaw. If it were Gaider or someone else, I would suspect trickery. But he tends to be more straightforward, from what I've seen.
Well, technically they wouldn't be lying if she was the returning companion.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:13
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Harid wrote...
preciousmetal wrote...
Actually, Laidlaw said "from Dragon Age 1." And Awakening is pretty much considered a part of Origins, anyway.
Merrill could be the returning companion, but I'm still skeptical. I think she's too minor of a character to be hyped up as the returning party member. Plus, this came from Laidlaw. If it were Gaider or someone else, I would suspect trickery. But he tends to be more straightforward, from what I've seen.
Well, technically they wouldn't be lying if she was the returning companion.
That's true. But still, when most people hear "returning party member" they think of Origins, or Awakening. Merrill was only a temporary companion in one Origin story. They could be talking about her, sure, but that borders on wordplay and getting peoples' hopes up, I think.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:18
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I know in one of the epilogues for Anders, is that he can die, shot by an arrow. Maybe its a companion that is influenced by your decisions in Origins :X? It seems unlikely that it is Anders, but at the same time, if it is, it could make your decisions in Origins seem much more significant.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:23
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Junri wrote...
I know in one of the epilogues for Anders, is that he can die, shot by an arrow. Maybe its a companion that is influenced by your decisions in Origins :X? It seems unlikely that it is Anders, but at the same time, if it is, it could make your decisions in Origins seem much more significant.
I've wondered if this would happen in a Bioware game. It seems likely, with all their companions being so... killable. It would be kind of unfair in this game though, since you'd be short a mage. I can see the fanraving now.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:37
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Light brown, but thanks for the correction, I checked after and you are rightEclipse_9990 wrote...
White_Buffalo94 wrote...
Top is Isabela, top right is Varric, top left looks like Fenris, Bottom left looks like Aveline of course, bottom right looks like Vael, but Vael has blonde hair... The last one, idk though
But we also have Bethany/Carver who isn't in this
Vael has brown hair..
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:40
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Honestly, Anders is a mage and without the Warden-Commander there to keep the templars from trying to force him into submission, he could fake his own death. Easy.preciousmetal wrote...
"No matter what character we bring in, if they had any epilogue text (no matter how far into the future that epilogue forecast) I'm positive that we won't treat them nearly as sacrosanct as some people on these forums will think we should. That's not, you'll note, the same as not dealing with them at all." -Gaider
That should include the death epilogue. An arrow in the neck is hard to explain away, but I'm sure they could come up with something, if they wanted to. Don't know how believable it would be, but that hardly matters.
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:45
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#94
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:49
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White_Buffalo94 wrote...
Merrill IS the returning companion
http://dragonage.wik...om/wiki/Merrill
Oh, I know that she's a returning companion. I'm just skeptical that she's the only one. Unless there's some confirmation that I'm not aware of...?
I just checked out that German interview with Laidlaw again, and he actually says there will be at least one party member from DA1 returning in DA2. There's still hope!
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 02:54
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Nobody said there is ONE AND ONLY ONE returning companion. Also people need to re-read the thread before they post in it. People have linked the quote about changing epilogues MANY times and still there are comments on him dying.
Maybe you shouldn't suck at Awakening and have your NPCs die. : /
Maybe you shouldn't suck at Awakening and have your NPCs die. : /
#96
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 03:04
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madsabroo wrote...
Nobody said there is ONE AND ONLY ONE returning companion. Also people need to re-read the thread before they post in it. People have linked the quote about changing epilogues MANY times and still there are comments on him dying.
Maybe you shouldn't suck at Awakening and have your NPCs die. : /
Thats.. One way to put it..
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Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 03:09
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Eclipse_9990 wrote...
Go ahead.. Speculate..
I knew someone would post this eventually! I know a lot of people want it to be Anders...I'm a bit skeptical in that regard. My guess is...? I just want to comment on that book mostly, it is made of awesome!
Its made of paper.. But yes awesome was an added ingredient..
#98
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 03:10
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madsabroo wrote...
Nobody said there is ONE AND ONLY ONE
returning companion. Also people need to re-read the thread before they
post in it. People have linked the quote about changing epilogues MANY
times and still there are comments on him dying.
Maybe you shouldn't suck at Awakening and have your NPCs die. : /
You think that changing the epilogue is okay, that's great. Some people
feel differently and are allowed to express their opinions.
Sucking at the game is irrelevant. Every epilogue should be accounted for.
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#99
Posté 11 janvier 2011 - 03:12
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Kazanth wrote...
madsabroo wrote...
Nobody said there is ONE AND ONLY ONE
returning companion. Also people need to re-read the thread before they
post in it. People have linked the quote about changing epilogues MANY
times and still there are comments on him dying.
Maybe you shouldn't suck at Awakening and have your NPCs die. : /
You think that changing the epilogue is okay, that's great. Some people
feel differently and are allowed to express their opinions.
Sucking at the game is irrelevant. Every epilogue should be accounted for.
I never said that it was okay, I said that actual Bioware devs have been quoted saying they WILL be making changes to epilogues. I'd rather they didn't, but the fact is that they have gone on record saying epilogues are not set in stone.
