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[Gleym]

Bioware has little say in anything, Bianco. So if EA wants to cash in with LucasArtsian gusto, Bioware will just have to suck it up and comply. That's what happens when you sell yourself over to a corporate license-monger. As for leaving their fans hanging? They've done it before when they were working with Interplay. Baldur's Gate 3 was on the menu, for example, with an already-existing fanbase eager for more and waiting, but then Black Isle went belly-up, and rather than work with Interplay in spite of it, considering they still have the license, they've done nothing.



So it's not like Bioware is infallible (although I know so many ME2-lovers would like to believe Bioware can do no wrong). They've missed out on plenty of opportunities.

[CMD-Shep]

slimgrin wrote...

I am. I dislike the milking of IP's.

Says the person with a witcher 2 banner/signature.

[theelementslayer]

The world is too rich to not build off of it. ME3 will be the end of shepards story but there is a lot of room for new and different stories

[keldana]

I´m thinking about something else ... the story of ME is epic ... a battle against machines, which killed all organic life several times.



What next ??? Which kind of story to get ... which doesn´t give many people a feeling of ... boredom.



I wouldn´t mind about a more "boring" story ... but many people would I guess ...

[Da_Lion_Man]

I think we have 0.01 % chance of this happening.



But I wouldn't mind if Bioware stopped at ME3 (and DLC). In fact I prefer if they just move on and make a new IP instead of milking the Mass Effect series.

[Da_Lion_Man]

CMD-Shep wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I am. I dislike the milking of IP's.

Says the person with a witcher 2 banner/signature.

So how exactly is making a sequel to The Witcher milking?

[Mister Mida]

CMD-Shep wrote...

slimgrin wrote...

I am. I dislike the milking of IP's.

Says the person with a witcher 2 banner/signature.

Did you play The Witcher or at least watched the ending?

[Element_Zero]

s_mirage wrote...

And while some vid games survived their movie counterparts, many more do not. The Wing Commander series of vid games was a very long one that went for a number of years, but when the movie popped up and flopped. The game vanished from the scenes, only to have one more developed a few years later.

AFAIK the failure of the movie had nothing to do with the Wing Commander series ending. The main problem with the series was that it had became very expensive to produce due to the massive amount of film that each new game was expected to contain, and EA simply decided that focussing on it did not generate the financial return to make it worth continuing. It's also worth remembering that the creators of the series, Origin Systems, were basically being used exclusively to continue work on Ultima Online which was a cash cow for EA at the time. This was EA's expansionist "think of the money" period afterall. The series was already on hiatus by the time the movie was released and although it may have been revived if the movie had been a big hit, the movie didn't kill the series.  

EDIT: As for Mass Effect, I believe the universe is far too interesting to simply leave after ME3. There are other stories that can be told and I think it would be a shame if the whole thing was tied solely to Shepard. Also there will be a new generation of console hardware to develop for and I believe the series can be expanded and improved upon if less constrained by aging console hardware.

Ah very interesting, it's always nice to get some background or a different take on stuff like this. . . I think I was working dam near 70 hrs a week during that time frame so things were a bit fuzzy. . . Infact I think from 98' - 04' I was pushing some major hours. . ugh. . . Well it's a weird thing to say but I miss those times. . .

Modifié par Element_Zero, 11 janvier 2011 - 12:58 .

[Gleym]

Hell, even if The Witcher didn't have a cliffhanger ending, the series is essentially a sequential dark fantasy (a true dark fantasy, not 'dark and edgy' like Dragon Age) version of all old-time fairy tales and nursery rhymes. The books even feature a blonde, murderous Snow-White and her band of seven highwayman gnomes. The series itself could be handled in any number of ways, warranting itself a sequel, as opposed to Mass Effect which builds its entirity upon being 'a great epic'.

And the reason you can't pull a 'story of epic proportions' series of stories with Mass Effect is due to the very simple fact that there ARE no epic, intergalactic threats in the series outside of the Reapers. There are wars and skirmishes with other races, but after Mass Effect there aren't going to be any threats of that scale, thus meaning any game that will follow will be thoroughly diminished in its proportions. Might be enjoyable, sure, but it will never be on the same epic 'save the galaxy' scale.

[Rykoth]

Stopping now would be an idiot move. I'm sorry but this "milking the IP" "EA is evil" crap is getting old.

ME is a huge setting. I'm 90% sure after ME3 we still won't have seen the whole Milky Way let alone another galaxy. So... why shouldn't there be more games. That's like saying...

"yeah, put your heart into making a project, but stop after three stories are told, and let the majority of what you worked on collect dust." This different then a Baldur's Gate, ME is THEIR world. Just like DA is THEIR world. If I came up with an awesome world folks love, and could keep coming up with stories to tell everyone about the world, damn right I'd "milk it." World builders don't build their worlds so that they don't get fully used.

Modifié par Rykoth, 11 janvier 2011 - 12:55 .

[thejshman]

No, they should milk the hell out of Mass Effect. I've read every codex entry in ME 2 on my 24 inch SDTV, straining the **** out of my eyes. I demand more games in this universe!

[Rykoth]

Gleym wrote...

Might be enjoyable, sure, but it will never be on the same epic 'save the galaxy' scale.

Not every story has to be epic "save the galaxy."

Look at how people regard Lord of the Rings vs. The Hobbit.

More people read the latter and enjoy it over the former, and the Hobbit, while epic in its own right, isn't a "save the world" story. Hell, I'm pretty sure DA2 isn't a "save the world" story, and that's likely to be awesome. I think you can trust Bioware's writers, people need to stop downplaying them just because Bioware is owned by EA.

[rogermacarios]

As many already said, the ME universe is way too rich to left behind after ME3.



The bad guys will always be out there trying to mess the things up.



If we manage to destroy the Reapers in ME3, they will not simply disapeear, their technology will be scatered all over the galaxy and anyone can try to use it to do bad things, and at this point we'll need a new hero to fight against them.



I'd not mind a ME MMO, with so many races and classes we already have, I think it would not be that difficult to implement. Just imagine a half-ton Krogan Vanguard performing a biotic charge...



PS.: sorry for my bad english, I'm brazilian.

[TheRealIncarnal]

I don't want it to be the last Mass Effect game, but I definitely want it to be the last game in this series. Maybe you could have another series either at the first contact or possibly a hundred+ years post Shepard, but I don't want anything that involves Shepard.

[LadyJaneGrey]

Agree with Mongerty.  As long as the developers have good ideas for games within the ME universe, there's no point abandoning it.  If the developers get bored, then it's time to start a new IP; I'd rather have a good game, whatever the setting, than a "meh" game set in a specific IP.

[Sammuthegreat]

To those who worry that any future ME game would suffer as a result of its story being less epic than ME1-3's story... I wouldn't worry too much. It's been shown before that prequels and spinoffs can have just as interesting stories as their predecessors, even if they're not quite as grand in scale as the originals. Look at Halo (I know I'm going to get a lot of stick for saying this, but it's only my opinion). Halos 1-3 had the whole epic story thing (even if it did get a bit confused), and then Halo: Reach took the series back to the beginning, before even the events of Halo 1.



Did the story suffer? Hell no. Halo: Reach has probably the best campaign of any Halo game, and overall is comfortably the best game of the whole series.

[Emperor Mars]

Whiskey_Trigger wrote...

PHub88 wrote...

I will never understand the "I hope they dont make more games" BS

Why do you care? Would it somehow ruin your enjoyment of ME1 2 and 3? You dont have to play it, therefore whats the point of desiring nothing else comes? How does it affect your life in any way?

See my last quote.  I love BioWare and I love BioWare games.  But if they run it into the ground and ruin it then people quit buying not just Mass Effect but all BioWare games.  Then, there is no more BioWare.  And that affects us all.

Thats very extreme....look at square enix, they put out tons of crap titles but people still by games made by them. Bethesda also publishes mountains of crap, but people still eat up the elder scrolls games and fallout 3.

In response to the general thread; I disagree. While the series should not be milked, it has far to much potential to just end the series end with sheps story.

[Kurt Cobain]

not the end of the mass effect universe, just the end of shepards story

[Bourne Endeavor]

In all honesty, I could not care less what BioWare does with Mass Effect after the trilogy's conclusion. My interest has been upon Shepard's story and the present cast. Anything else will be separate from the aforementioned. If it is of quality, I will look into potentially purchasing it. If they go in a direction I dislike, then I will be content to say Mass Effect has ended for me.

[trucoolbrees]

 Well IMO it can only be considered milking a franchise if Bioware were trying to force the issue when there was no story left to tell. But Mass Effect is very rich in detail and backstory, even more so than most  Hollywood franchises. So no matter if Bioware decides to move on to a new IP,  and take a break from the ME universe. It wouldn't be a bad thing to focus on other aspects of the universe  later down the line(cough...Jade Empire.....cough).

[james1976]

I want lots of Mass Effect after ME3, even if it's without Shepard. No MMOs though....please no!

[Jerrald]

I would really like the reapers to wipe out all races in ME3 and end this for good.

[Pilotgregster]

Certainly not. Like others have said, the ME universe is nicely fleshed out. I'd hate for all of that effort to go to waste.

[Pwner1323]

BW has already said that ME3 isn't the end of the franchise. Why do people keep saying it is?