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#26
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Yes, this is one of several issues with just having one voice for the voiced protagonist. *runs away quickly and hides*

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I think its an awesome voice. But then I am British. I ahve to admit though, at first I was a bit... that was unexpected.

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Lady Catastrophe wrote...

it's nice to see an authentic English accent


Agreed. *raises glass*

Too many American accents. Far too many.

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Eudaemonium wrote...

I think its an awesome voice. But then I am British. I ahve to admit though, at first I was a bit... that was unexpected.


i loved the cake joke,  the deadpan delivery might have been to intimidate a few debt collecting mercenaries and keep them guessing if it's true or not.

please, have some cake. it's our family's specialty:devil:

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Hawke has a mix between a london accent and a dublin accent i can tell im irish.

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nightcobra8928 wrote...

Eudaemonium wrote...

I think its an awesome voice. But then I am British. I ahve to admit though, at first I was a bit... that was unexpected.


i loved the cake joke,  the deadpan delivery might have been to intimidate a few debt collecting mercenaries and keep them guessing if it's true or not.

please, have some cake. it's our family's specialty:devil:


I wonder who specifically he's talking about? His mother? bethany? I'm rather curious. i loved the dead-pan delivery too though.

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This is one thing I'm curious about - I feel like British people are more likely to enjoy Hawke's voice acting, for whatever reason (better appreciation of the nuances of the accent or something? I dunno, I was slightly surprised when someone said they found it bland), and I'd be interested to know where the fans and dissenters are from.

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I think its a familiarity thing. I believe the OP for example asked for a 'neutral American' accent. Of course to myself, as British, no American accent sounds remotely neutral, they just sound American. That said, I also can't tell the difference between an American and Canadian accent most of the time, which Americans/Canadians apparently can. I can of course tell the difference between a broadly "Southern" or "Northern" American accent, but any nuances therein I am usually oblivious too.

To be honest, for me Hawke's voice is pretty "neutral", in that his accent does not instantly strike me as odd (the tone and pitch of his voice struck me as odd initially, though). I come from mid-southern England, though. If I came from northern England or the Midlands or the Westcountry, which all ahve a variety of different accents, he might sound more out of place. But probably less out of place than an American accent.

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I LOVE English accents. they are, hands down, the sexy accent ever.



And I'm American, so yeah, it's not just Brits that like 'em, I love all authentic English accents :)

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Eudaemonium wrote...

I think its a familiarity thing. I believe the OP for example asked for a 'neutral American' accent. Of course to myself, as British, no American accent sounds remotely neutral, they just sound American. That said, I also can't tell the difference between an American and Canadian accent most of the time, which Americans/Canadians apparently can. I can of course tell the difference between a broadly "Southern" or "Northern" American accent, but any nuances therein I am usually oblivious too.
To be honest, for me Hawke's voice is pretty "neutral", in that his accent does not instantly strike me as odd (the tone and pitch of his voice struck me as odd initially, though). I come from mid-southern England, though. If I came from northern England or the Midlands or the Westcountry, which all ahve a variety of different accents, he might sound more out of place. But probably less out of place than an American accent.


I'm Dutch, not American, and my problem with his British accent is that he sounds like he's walking around with a stick up his ass, it reminds me of some British (or whatever) noble, not someone like this

Image IPB

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 11 janvier 2011 - 02:13 .


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Eudaemonium wrote...

I think its a familiarity thing. I believe the OP for example asked for a 'neutral American' accent. Of course to myself, as British, no American accent sounds remotely neutral, they just sound American. That said, I also can't tell the difference between an American and Canadian accent most of the time, which Americans/Canadians apparently can. I can of course tell the difference between a broadly "Southern" or "Northern" American accent, but any nuances therein I am usually oblivious too.
To be honest, for me Hawke's voice is pretty "neutral", in that his accent does not instantly strike me as odd (the tone and pitch of his voice struck me as odd initially, though). I come from mid-southern England, though. If I came from northern England or the Midlands or the Westcountry, which all ahve a variety of different accents, he might sound more out of place. But probably less out of place than an American accent.


I'd imagine as much, but at the same time I'm not sure I quite get the :mellow: complaints. On the other hand, it's obviously a very subjective thing. And I'm from Oop North, but I hear RP accents enough that it doesn't seem out of place. ;)

s0meguy6665 wrote...

I'm Dutch, not American, and my
problem with his British accent is that he sounds like he's walking
around with a stick up his ass, it reminds me of some British (or
whatever) noble, not an awesome warrior of doom.


I agree that he does sound pretty posh, but that may be justified considering his mother's side of the family is nobility, and her accent probably would influence the way Hawke's own accent would sound. After all, it's not like there's a "you must be this gruff to wield a sword/stave/bow" limit.

Modifié par obnoxiousgas, 11 janvier 2011 - 01:57 .


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s0meguy6665 wrote...

I'm Dutch, not American, and my problem with his British accent is that he sounds like he's walking around with a stick up his ass, it reminds me of some British (or whatever) noble, not someone like this

http://www.holyfragg...er/927_3648.jpg


Apologies then! He does sound a bit formal, I have to admit. But his mother was descended nobility, and we presumably she influenced his accent a bit. Not sure.

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Sounds almost like me.

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I like the deadpan delivery. Fits my character concept.

I have no problem with the accent, but I would have preferred a deeper voice.

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Having only heard about two lines, I'd call it a pretty neutral English accent. It sounds like RP, from what I've heard, and I don't really get how that can be called heavy. I suppose it's heavy in the "not-american" way.

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Giving a Ferelden-born human character an American accent would make about as much sense as giving an English accent to a character born and raised in California. Accents don't just magically appear in people's larynges according to "what should suit them", they are acquired from exposure to the accents of the people you grow up with.

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I like what he's doing, although I with the PCs were unvoiced as in DA:O. It forces no characterization on me--not badass, not hick--neutral. He sounds like all the other educated Fereldans and the rest is up to me.

Modifié par errant_knight, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:29 .


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Ineffable Igor wrote...

I think the delivery is just a little sketchy because playing a part like that is really difficult. I mean, usually an actor is given a character and they know who that character is and how they want to play them or have been directed to play them. Hawke is kind of a wild card, there are so many different possible personae that character can take on. Ultimately you're not playing one character, you're playing a squillion characters with a squillion different motivations and reactions while still being the same person. That's the acting equivalent of split personality disorder. Hawke's a character that's meant to be projected on. I don't think it really says all that much about the voice actor's overall talent if the delivery sometimes seems a bit wooden. I thought the voice he did for Vaughn was amazing, it made me just despise that character, which is exactly what should have happened.


That's the reason why I don't like a voiced protagonist in games with so many different possibilities. One wants to play his Hawke as a bad-ass warrior and then the voice wouldnt fit. Another maybe wants a sneaky rogue and there you go, the voice doesn't fit.
It's not the fault of the actor, he cannot do it right for everybody. From that perspective the voice sounds ok I think, neutral.

With a voiceless protagonist you can imagine the voice and make her fit your playstyle.

I'm curious how the German voices of Ladyhawke and Malehawke will sound.

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s0meguy6665 wrote...

Who the hell wants to be (feel) British except British people?


Who the hell wants to be (feel) American except American people?

But Seriously, racism aside.. I dont really mean what I said, just wanted  to point out that neither point is valid and  well both the comments, yours and mine.. Are stupid and offensive.

I will say however that an american accent will feel very out of place when Ferelden is based off of England and everyone else there has a pommy accent sept for the elves and dwarves. So when a human guy starts running around with a human accent in medieval england say. People will assume something is very out of place.

Modifié par XxDeonxX, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:12 .


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The accent sound really nice tbh. The beard is another story but I won't get into that :P 

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WHAT?! An American accent on a human from a country based on England. If you want American accents, go watch a dumb mainstream film. I could understand if they gave an English accent to a City Elf or a Dwarf, but not a Fereldan human. How could you moan about such a cool accent. Just be glad Bioware didn't give Hawke a regional English accent. When Susan Boyle went on American TV, they subtitled her when her Scottish accent isn't even that strong. I can't understand most accents, but I can understand hers. If they gave Hawke a scouse or a geordie accent , most Americans probably won't understand them.

I have taken serious offence to this, by the way. (In case you haven't noticed)

Modifié par Elfman, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:17 .


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obnoxiousgas wrote...

This is one thing I'm curious about - I feel like British people are more likely to enjoy Hawke's voice acting, for whatever reason (better appreciation of the nuances of the accent or something? I dunno, I was slightly surprised when someone said they found it bland), and I'd be interested to know where the fans and dissenters are from.

I don't know how the Scotts or Welsh would think of Hawke's accent, but being English I found his accent annoying, as I put in the 'New Dev Diary' thread: he sounds like irritateing upper class robotic sod. Admittedly we've only heard a few lines, and it will probably grow on me over time, but he also sounds like a right bunch of pansies!!

Granted his mothers side of the family is Kirkwall noblity but I don't believe it has been stated what accent poeple from Kirkwall or the Free Marshes have (I do wonder what it is, as Sebasitan has a Scottish accent). He's probably picked up his accent whilst running around Ferelden away from the Templars, but I'd be suprised if that includes the upper class social circles. As for the American accent part, I believe the dwarfs and city elves have American accents, so unless Hawke was raised somewhere like Orzammer or an alienage it would sound out of place.

But at the end of the day, I don't know if its because of David Cameron and his lap dog Nick Clegg, but theres something about Hawke's accent what makes me want to punch him square in the face Image IPB

Modifié par Chaia, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:22 .


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 The American accent is the most obvious, un-neutral accent ever created. Seriously. And it feels highly out of place in fantasies. Hawke needed a British accent.

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s0meguy6665 wrote...

1:53

What do you guys think of Hawke's accent? I hoped they'd gone with more of a neutral sounding American accent, instead of a heavy British accent (I think). I really really dislike Hawke's voice.


Yeah, because knights were running about with American accents.  It's a fantasy game so anything can be done but American accents weren't developed for some time. I'm glad he has a British accent, it suits his character and the part of the world he is in, the part of the world. I thought Bioware were going to give him some American army sounding accent, instead we get what sounds like an English Knight, I like that.

And as I said yesterday, that's already my favourite quote from the game:

http://social.biowar...1/index/5680070



1:43 - The Warden appears. Although this is probably Bioware mocking those "will the warden be in DA2" threads,

Modifié par Elton John is dead, 11 janvier 2011 - 04:35 .


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voice just brilliant

can't wait for dragon age 2