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#101
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Dude, I have no problem with British accents. I find them sexy on guys and I'm AmericanB). However, I do, like OP, have a problem with the voice of Male Hawke (he sounds so flat) but then again I don't care since I will be playing the game as Lady Hawke so she better have a cool British accent~!!<_<

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dbankier wrote...

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Why US? If anything they use Canadian English.  :P

One of the developers said some time ago that they use US English.

And a quick look at the in-game subtitles shows that they do use US English.

I will never get used to that spelling of armour.

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Sylvius the Mad wrote...

dbankier wrote...

Barhador wrote...

Why US? If anything they use Canadian English.  :P

One of the developers said some time ago that they use US English.

And a quick look at the in-game subtitles shows that they do use US English.

I will never get used to that spelling of armour.


It's ghastly I tell you.

* sips tea *

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Hoping Lady Hawke doesnt come across as a pompous douche the way male Hawke's VA does to me.

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Sharn01 wrote...

Hoping Lady Hawke doesnt come across as a pompous douche the way male Hawke's VA does to me.

I haven't heard the VO, but if he sounds anything like he did in DAO as Vaughan I think I'll be quite happy with him.

slimgrin wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

And a quick look at the in-game subtitles shows that they do use US English.

I will never get used to that spelling of armour.

It's ghastly I tell you.

* sips tea *

It is heartening that the writers do tend to use Canadian spellings here on the fora.  At least they haven't forgotten how.

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Sharn01 wrote...

Hoping Lady Hawke doesnt come across as a pompous douche the way male Hawke's VA does to me.


Agreed.

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JEMEDAOME2 wrote...

As an English man I have to point that Hawkes accents sounds bad really bad, of course that to be expected in a fantasy game or anything fantasy where just about every one talks like they come from southern England, DA1 is a prime example of this where accent ranged from London posh to
cockney with a bit of essex tossed in for good measure.

Now if Hawke sounded like he came from Edinburgh or Belfast or hell even Cardiff that would be great cos I am so tired of English or American accents in fantasy games!!

Phew rant over, keep up the good work Bioware!

I'm from Belfast and...just no. Our accent is pretty much a different language. Very few could understand it.

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I was expecting more... memorable voice.

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Ineffable Igor wrote...

I think the delivery is just a little sketchy because playing a part like that is really difficult. I mean, usually an actor is given a character and they know who that character is and how they want to play them or have been directed to play them. Hawke is kind of a wild card, there are so many different possible personae that character can take on. Ultimately you're not playing one character, you're playing a squillion characters with a squillion different motivations and reactions while still being the same person. That's the acting equivalent of split personality disorder. Hawke's a character that's meant to be projected on. I don't think it really says all that much about the voice actor's overall talent if the delivery sometimes seems a bit wooden. I thought the voice he did for Vaughn was amazing, it made me just despise that character, which is exactly what should have happened.

As far as the accent is concerned, I really like it. A more American accent wouldn't have made any sense given the context of the story. I mean, Hawke's from Lothering, no one in that village had an American sounding accent, IIRC.


I agree, while the voice does sound flat due to the various different personalities the VA is voicing, hopefully when playing and if you stick to a certain type of voice/personality it won't be noticeable

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And how many lines have you heard exactly, from the hundreds or thousands Hawke has?

Modifié par Russalka, 14 janvier 2011 - 08:41 .


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Russalka wrote...

And how many lines have you heard exactly from the hundreds or thousands Hawke has said?



Exactly. I want to reserve total judgement until I've actually played the game. However, I have no problem with Hawke having an English accent, seeing as he's from Ferelden and other characters from Ferelden also have English accents.

And I do like English accents, but being English myself, I am biased Image IPB

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Listening again to his voice makes me wonder what accent it actually is (as in what part of England)? It sounds mostly like RP to me, but I'm not from an English speaking country so I wouldn't know.



Looking on the VA's IMDb page reveals he was born in Gibraltar. Not sure if this have any influence or not.

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I'd say it is a southern English accent; he sounds very neutral, whereas up in northern England where I'm from, there are a lot of different dialects and accents.

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I was expecting something along the lines of Gerard Butler. :)

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The locational elitism here is staggering, get over yourselves.



I personally don't care one way or another about the accent, as we've only gotten a glimpse of what the actual character is going to sound like.

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I'm very glad they chose an English accent. Had Hawke been an elf or dwarf, American would make sense, but no other human Fereldan has yet spoken with an American accent.

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I disapprove, Hawke sounds like that d-bag from the City Elf origin and that is not cool!

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C9316 wrote...

I disapprove, Hawke sounds like that d-bag from the City Elf origin and that is not cool!

Same voice actor.

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-Rue- wrote...

I'm very glad they chose an English accent. Had Hawke been an elf or dwarf, American would make sense, but no other human Fereldan has yet spoken with an American accent.


Woah there's an american accent? I'm sure an american accent is subjective and even at that, there are obvious regional accents from the north west to the south and even the northwest from what I can tell.

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Disliking an actor for a single role is pointless.

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Well, he was raised in Fereldan, so it would make very, very little sense for him to be talking with an American accent. Anyway, I think it fits him quite nicely. I can identify far more with it than, say, Mike Meer doing generic space marine.

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I'm beginning to wonder if there'd be fewer negative comments towards m!Hawke's voice if it came out sounding exactly like Ser Bryant. Damn, I'd pay good coin to hear him read from a dictionary, any dictionary, in fact. Mmm...

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Cra5y Pineapple wrote...

JEMEDAOME2 wrote...

As an English man I have to point that Hawkes accents sounds bad really bad, of course that to be expected in a fantasy game or anything fantasy where just about every one talks like they come from southern England, DA1 is a prime example of this where accent ranged from London posh to
cockney with a bit of essex tossed in for good measure.

Now if Hawke sounded like he came from Edinburgh or Belfast or hell even Cardiff that would be great cos I am so tired of English or American accents in fantasy games!!

Phew rant over, keep up the good work Bioware!

I'm from Belfast and...just no. Our accent is pretty much a different language. Very few could understand it.


OT, but I used to work for directory enquiries (when it was still free, and still 192 - that's aged me!) and our centre took over a portion of NI traffic for a while (we were physically based in North Staffordshire). Boy, did our average call times ever suffer. And I expect every single person in NI who had need to call 192 got immensely pissed off with us repeatedly asking them, "I'm sorry, could you repeat that please", over and over. :D So yes, a Belfast accent would probably be a step too far if even poor ole Susan Boyle has to be subbed in the US.

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My own feeling about the very little we've heard of m!Hawke's accent is that I'd prefer it to be not as posh, but other than that I'm more concerned about delivery than anything else. It's too soon to make more of an assessment though.

In DAO there seemed to be 2 types of English accents: posh/RP for templars, wardens, nobility etc., and vaguely cockney-ish London for commoners, everyone else. This is pretty tropey, as far as I'm concerned. I believe it has to do with the large US market for the game. Those two English accents are recognisable in the US, and come with associated images and expectations. If you'd have thrown in a general East Midlands accent (like I have, although it has been sullied with a few Stokie inflections since I've lived here), likely the same associations wouldn't have formed in people's minds. That isn't to say it's necessarily a bad thing, but just that it's a trope to be recognised.

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EclipticOlive54 wrote...

Woah there's an american accent?

There's a range within it, just as there's a range within an English accent, or an Australian accent.

Often the differences within a broad regional accent (like American or Australian) aren't noticeable to people from different regions (so, for example, an American might not discern the differences between a Brisbane accent and a Perth accent), but they're still there.

To a non-American, Americans do tend to sound basically all alike.  The phonemical traits that make them American are the things that make them not Australian, or not English, or not South African.  Yes, there's a lot of variety within the American accent, but they still all have an American accent.