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[.shea.]

Matchy Pointy wrote...



It has two even, Veronica as well is gay (or atleast have fallen in love with a woman before).

Not only that but if you play a male character and choose the "I want to stay as close as possible"- option when you talk about her tactics she answers that "this is as close as I'll get until you turn into a leggy brunette" (to female character she says that the pc has to buy her dinner first), so yeah Veronica is definetly gay.

[Ryzaki]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

I never meant to imply that the PC should be held back, and I apologize it came off that way. I simply meant that all platforms should be given the same careful treatment, without one being being shoved aside for the other.

Alright then.

I have no issues with that.

[AlexXIV]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

arcane-weirdo wrote...

Private life? that was his entire private life? all we know is he's in college, and he doesn't have much money. And correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you kinda asked him.....

Eh, he didn't ask necessarily, but made incorrect assumptions that I wanted to rectify; best way I knew how was with my own experiences, so that's what I used.

I wonder where I *know* (not really) you don't know any of your parents then. Oh right you mentioned it right up there. I guess that's someone else's fault then. You know if this wasn't the internet I'd say wow, respect. But I am around the internet for too long to believe anything said in some pre release video game forum in a 'bisexual LI' thread for real. Bringing in real life experiences in a discussion on the internet does only good as far as people actually believe them. I am not suggesting you are a liar but neither wouldn't I take it as anything else than something a random anonymous guy in the internet wrote.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 20 janvier 2011 - 04:34 .

[Jimmy Fury]

In Exile wrote...

Jimmy Fury wrote...
Now i'm not saying everyone should be like that and I certainly disagree with the OP in that respect. But subjective sexuality could be useful in some cases. It would certainly circumvent the biphobia of players and the potential for writers or devs to dip into stereotypes by making all bisexual companions sl*ts to "prove" they're bisexual.
(note: Not saying that's what happened, only that the potential exists)

I don't see how that would work (in terms of reducing biphobia).

Most players can't see bisexual romance content without a new PC, and if you tie subjective sexuality to PC gender, that wouldn't avoid situations like Zevran (which lead to the biphoia, I think; I mean, I can't say for sure because I don't have an issue with the sexuality of characters).

Let's look at Leliana or Zevran.

The only way you would know Zevran was into guys... is if you played a guy. But in this case you would not know Leliana was into girls.

The only way you would know Leliana was into girls... is if you played a girl. But in this case you wouldn't know Zevran was into guys.

Whether or not sexual preferences are fixed (i.e. not tied to PC gender) you still can't actually see the full spectrum of preferences without playing multiple PCs of multiple genders.

The objection, IMO, doesn't make sense to be in terms of content, because there isn't a content difference in terms of who romances who.

I think rather what the OP wanted (and uses the word bisexually wrongly) is a character who is either 100% straight and acts it or 100% gay and acts it based on PC gender.

So basically Zevran wouldn't go all, "I like you, but I'm normally more into girls".

I was refering specifically to the type of biphobia Maria mentioned earlier. Where people have this impression that all bisexuals are sleazy and inherently sl*tty even if they're virgins.
Not the same as homophobia which is, I believe, more what you're talking about since Zevran would still hit on a male PC thus making that type of player uncomfortable?
Although I suppose in order to make an LI properly subjective it would have to be designed so that the player makes the first real move. If Zevran was hitting on male Warden's then his sexuality would certainly lean one particular direction thus not being all that subjective.

And yes, that's the impression I got from the OP as well which is why I disagree with him. Actively changing the characters sexuality is a much different matter.

[Stormghost]

AlexXIV wrote...

I will never get over the fact that people do have a gaming console in their house but no PC. A PC does have more uses than a console and it is not really that much more expensive. Not to mention games are usually cheaper as well. That said, if you play on console it is your own fault.

I have a PC, its GPU isn't good enough to play Dragon Age.

I also was not saying that the PC version should be dumbed down to match the consoles or anything of the sort.  I was just saying that I didn't want chunks of the game to be left out in the assumption that a mod would be made for it, because 2 out of 3 formats of the game can't use mods.

[PinkShoes]

personally i think there should be some characters that are JUST homosexual.

[JohnstonMR]

AlexXIV wrote...

I will never get over the fact that people do have a gaming console in their house but no PC. A PC does have more uses than a console and it is not really that much more expensive. Not to mention games are usually cheaper as well. That said, if you play on console it is your own fault.

I have a PC, but it won't run DA2. 

[Maelora]

I support everybody being bisexual in real life.



It should be illegal for a hot girl to turn me down.

[Maelora]

And you know, if I had my pick of DAO/ME partners, I'd STILL choose Leliana and Liara every goddam time.

[Maelora]

>The only way you would know Leliana was into girls... is if you played a girl.



Garbage. The only way you'd know she was into GUYS is is you played a guy. Ex-girlfriend problems, flirts with Morrigan, etc. Leliana doesn't fall for any guy except the Warden.

[Chris Priestly]

NO thread necroing. Please use the romance sticky thread to continue this discussion.


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