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Question: Is "Default" Hawke, a mage?


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As the title say, im wondering if default Hawke is a mage, it seems to me that he is from how much magic stuff he's being surrounded with in promos and videos(Like the trailer where he uses blood magic and all)

I'm asking becouse I'm currently struggling what class I should start with.. I like to play the first time through with a class that makes most sense, it seems, currently, Mage is that class and that's where you'll get the proper DA2 experience to me.

Where if you choose another class, Bethany will instead take that special spot.

This isnt a "Zomg this is bad" or anything, this is a "I need help to figure this out so I can get the best experience first time through" kind of thing :P

Normally I choose warrior(Or soldier in case of Mass effect) since they seem the most basic default thing to be. Though in DA1 I felt like I could be anything, and still fit, I dont really feel the same way about DA2.

 I hope I make sense here, since I admit I got a problem with making myself clear in posts >.<

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There's no "default" Hawke. There's marketing Hawke though.

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I'm definitely going with the arcane blood warrior setup... it's far more awesome than the other classes i think.

The only thing is that now it's in the trailer... so it'll be far more popular, which makes it less appealing to me but still it's the least boring class.

Modifié par s0meguy6665, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:20 .


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axa89 wrote...

There's no "default" Hawke. There's marketing Hawke though.


Yeah well im curious if Bioware, using that as the marketing Hawke, is the one that's best fit as being Hawke.

Like, I feel it makes most sense to play a soldier in mass effect since people comment more on that, whereas, if im Adept, it's like, no one cares, even though I got these amazing abilities.

Not to say it's the same in Dragon age 2 mind you, but I hope you get what I mean :P

I'm wondering if it just "fits" better to play a mage.
Normally I dont start mages first time through since using "advanced" things like spells etc on the first time through a game I feel like I dont do it justice not having learned all the technical stuff. ( I am also not too big of a fan of dying as soon as an enemy is up in my face)

But, if BIoware made it with Hawke being best fit as a mage, I woudnt mind going with it first time through, knowing I would probably get the most exciting story that just feels more right.

It seems to be the case, since as a apostate mage, you're being  hunted by templars as one, where if you're not you're just.. I dunno, a dude with a sword?

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The trailers that showed Hawke using magic simply wanted to show off certain magical abilties. They're as much a mage as they are a warrior or rogue.  Yes, Hawke is very talented.

Perhaps as a mage, you'd feel a certain way having the templars come after Hawke personally, or perhaps you'd rather be the one protecting Bethany from them?

Modifié par Arthur Cousland, 11 janvier 2011 - 03:29 .


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mr_luga wrote...

Question: Is "Default" Hawke, a mage?


Yes. People are going to jump all over you for using the word 'default.'

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I hope there isn't a "quickstart Hawke" of a single class. ME showed what happens if you have that.


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mr_luga wrote...
It seems to be the case, since as a apostate mage, you're being  hunted by templars as one, where if you're not you're just.. I dunno, a dude with a sword?

You are a responsible big brother protecting your little sister from the templars. Like Simon in Firefly.

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No, i think with all the screenies of warrior hawke and sister bethany, they just wanted to show mage hawke with carver.

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"Destiny Trailer Hawke" is technically a Blood Mage, though he probably fights up close a lot better than a mage can. That said, we've seen Warrior Hawke in most of the screenshots. Its best to say that Marketing!Hawke is an impossible hybrid class.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

Question: Is "Default" Hawke, a mage?


Yes. People are going to jump all over you for using the word 'default.'


Yay body contact with humans! :wub:

Anyway, this is getting tricky to choose.. :-/ I still have the feeling that mage hawke is kind of the "right" one. Otherwise im not too sure why'd they keep showing hawke using magic in trailers, even in concept (Of that Von Hawke character)

OF course, im not saying that, any other way then mage is wrong or anything, the same way diffrent classes in ME is fine. Just, I dont know, I got this .. Weird thing, where the first time through, I want to play the one that just, gets the most out of the game. Becouse all the story is new.

I feel if I play a warrior or something, it would be a bit tame in comparison, storywise and with content. It seems being an apostate mage alot of more interesting things would happend, from the way everyone looks at you etc.

I dunno, gawd this is hard XD I'd love bioware feedback on this, but im sure they'd say what most people feel, that whatever you decide to play is the right Hawke.

I'd still love to know what the default one is though.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

Question: Is "Default" Hawke, a mage?


Yes. People are going to jump all over you for using the word 'default.'


You know, most of the time, we prefer "default", but only in recognition with its connection to "canon" (or, rather, the alternate, safer word to use).

But since this guy didn't mention anything about canon, we're assuming "default" means canon.

Yes, "default" Hawke is a male mage named Garrett, just like "default" Shepard is a male soldier named John who was an Earthborn Sole Survivor.

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Saibh wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

mr_luga wrote...

Question: Is "Default" Hawke, a mage?


Yes. People are going to jump all over you for using the word 'default.'


You know, most of the time, we prefer "default", but only in recognition with its connection to "canon" (or, rather, the alternate, safer word to use).

But since this guy didn't mention anything about canon, we're assuming "default" means canon.

Yes, "default" Hawke is a male mage named Garrett, just like "default" Shepard is a male soldier named John who was an Earthborn Sole Survivor.


How do you know this? :o  I kind of sort of hope it's true? .. I'm not sure, I can't tell. I'm not sure if I even want to know, my mind is a very confusing and dangerous thing.

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I prefer 'default' to canon or iconic. We also know that for DA II, the default is that the Dark Ritual happened while Alistair and Anora ruled Ferelden, but that doesn't mean it's the canon story.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

I prefer 'default' to canon or iconic. We also know that for DA II, the default is that the Dark Ritual happened while Alistair and Anora ruled Ferelden, but that doesn't mean it's the canon story.

When was that said?

All I knew was that Alistair was on the throne for the default.

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I felt with the way DAO was made, anything I did was right, thanks to the origins, it just made it feel like no matter what you picked, you fitted in.


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In Mass Effect, the default Shepard was a Male Soldier.  In Origins, the default appearance was a Male Human, but didn't specify what class or origin that man was.  So you could say that the default Warden was a Male Human Blank Blank. 

But I've seen what looks like the class/gender selector in one of the DA2 videos, I forget which.  It shows six different pictures of Hawke, three male, three female, and two of each class respectively.  If you remember KotOR, it much resembles the character screen where you picked a male/female scout/scoundrel/soldier.

With this setup, there doesn't appear to be any 'pick Default' button.  You have to click one of the six pictures, which means that either there is no default Hawke, or there are six of them.Posted Image

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That makes it alot trickier for my head XD I suspect that when I boot up the game, It'll be easier to pick when I got everything right infront of me. But currently im struggling, and worried, that mage is the best way to go, the first time through

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there are 6 characters available to you : roll 1d6 to decide.

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I've heard about male mage as Garrett before.

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The trailers make me want to dual class.

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_Loc_N_lol_ wrote...

there are 6 characters available to you : roll 1d6 to decide.


Yeah no.. That's not what the thread is about <.<

It's about, like, from the way bioware is really flaunting off mage hawke, im wondering if being hawke and mage, is like the way to get the most out of dragon age the first time through, with the most interesting story and twists/dialog

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When has the default let you get the most out of a Bioware game? The writers on ME2 said before release you'd get a lot more out of an imported Shepard, and that the default isn't as good. Which turns out to be true. Default Shepard is sole survior, but you can never bring Akuze up to TIM or Miranda. Sole survior ends up being terrible for that alone.

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I'm sorry I probably worded it wrong.. Uhm.. I want to get the story that "Makes sense" .. I guess? I'm not sure how to properly explain this honestly, but I just know, playing as a soldier in mass effect, it feels "right" compared to playing adept, becouse bionic human is suppposed a bit rare, but no one really gives damn when you use those abilities. So I coudnt really play it becouse it felt wrong.



I'm just wondering if mage is that "soldier" class in dragon age 2

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3 of the human squad members in ME2 are biotic, and no one seems to care either. All asari have biotics. The people you deal with in ME probably seen biotics often enough not to care that Shepard is one.



It's more unbelievable that sole survior Shepard (which is the default) would work for Cerberus, and that Shepard would never bring up Akuze to TIM or Miranda. You can bring up the other evils that Cerberus has done in the past, but you can not bring up the one were Cerberus killed all of sole survior's squad.