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[Remus Artega]

and yet these threads seems to be popping up pretty intesively in the past few months...

[DarthCaine]

Here some of the most voted polls on this site:

Mass Effect 1 vs Mass Effect 2
http://social.biowar...596/polls/1670/
Mass Effect 1 - 37%, Mass Effect 2 - 63%

http://social.biowar...596/polls/4081/

GameSpot User Scores:
ME1: 9.1 360, 8.9 PC
ME2: 9.4 360, 9.3 PC
(you can also check other sites if you want, in every last one ME2 has a higher user score than ME1)

Of course, arrogant haters still gonna hate and won't admit to anything.

Remus Artega wrote...

Which was made right after the game was released thus influenced by initial hype...

Those polls were made specifically because the vocal minority of haters insisted they were the majority.  Back then there were even more haters.You create as many polls as you want, you'll get the same results, and arrogant people still won't admit anything.

BTW, it wasn't till April that I got a lot of votes on the ME1 vs ME2 poll. Back then ME1 had 40%, and every month it's getting less and less...

Mash Mashington wrote...

Everyone knows that KotOR is better than both Mass Effects put together

Put together is pushing it, even if KOTOR is the best RPG I've ever played.

Modifié par DarthCaine, 11 janvier 2011 - 05:21 .

[RolandX9]

Yes.



...next question plz. Me, I want ME3 to blow *both* of them away.

[sinosleep]

Remus Artega wrote...

and yet these threads seems to be popping up pretty intesively in the past few months...

Vocal minority. It's a QUITE COMMON occurance on forums of any type. Go to a rap forum and everyone there is hating on the "mainstream" rappers while fawning over some clown that's been underground and unheard of for the last 5 years. Go to an MLB forum and everyone is hating on the Yankees, go to an NFL forum and everyone is hating on the Patriots. And yet "mainstream" rappers sell more records, the Yankees are the biggest business in sport, and the Pats sell more gear than the Browns do.

Popular opinion on internet forums often flies in the face of popular opinion practically ANYWHERE else. Polls can be just as bad, but there's usually at least some insulation since many lurkers who DON'T post will click on a simple poll.

Modifié par sinosleep, 11 janvier 2011 - 05:21 .

[Funkcase]

I like ME1 more, I like the combat in ME2 more, but I dont play ME for combat. I play it for the story, characters, and music, all three I liked more in ME1 over ME2. Just my opinion though, everyone has a different taste.

[Jorina Leto]

A majority doesn't indicate right or wrong. There is nothing to admit.



The only part of ME2 that are better, are just graphics.

[Chuvvy]

I don't feel like posting my reasoning for the 16th time, but yes I liked ME1 more than ME2.

[InvaderErl]

Remus Artega wrote...

and yet these threads seems to be popping up pretty intesively in the past few months...

Welcome to a Developer forum.

While there's nothing to be said for somebody's subjective personal opinion the fact that ME2's racking up awards left and right not just from critical acclaim but from reader poll's involving thousands of voters indicates that they did something objectively right.

Modifié par InvaderErl, 11 janvier 2011 - 05:29 .

[Funkcase]

sinosleep wrote...

Remus Artega wrote...

and yet these threads seems to be popping up pretty intesively in the past few months...

Vocal minority. It's a QUITE COMMON occurance on forums of any type. Go to a rap forum and everyone there is hating on the "mainstream" rappers while fawning over some clown that's been underground and unheard of for the last 5 years.

That's becuase mainstream rap is pretty crap. They are famous becuase they talk about money, sex, drugs and guns, also using that stupid auto-tune on there voice. Yet the underground guy is usually a actual poet, and talks sense, usually atleast.

[sinosleep]

Funkcase wrote...

That's becuase mainstream rap is pretty crap. They are famous becuase they talk about money, sex, drugs and guns, also using that stupid auto-tune on there voice. Yet the underground guy is usually a actual poet, and talks sense, usually atleast.

It's a case by case basis. Nas and Jay are mainstream, they still murk the vast majority of underground garbage I've heard. Lupe Fiasco can't really be considered underground any more, he crushes most underground rap I've heard as well. Rappers aren't good on the whole cause they're underground or bad on the whole cause they're mainstream.

[Funkcase]

sinosleep wrote...

Funkcase wrote...

That's becuase mainstream rap is pretty crap. They are famous becuase they talk about money, sex, drugs and guns, also using that stupid auto-tune on there voice. Yet the underground guy is usually a actual poet, and talks sense, usually atleast.

It's a case by case basis. Nas and Jay are mainstream, they still murk the vast majority of underground garbage I've heard. Lupe Fiasco can't really be considered underground any more, he crushes most underground rap I've heard as well. Rappers aren't good on the whole cause they're underground or bad on the whole cause they're mainstream.

I agree, thats what I meant by ''usually atleast'' but the majorty of mainstream are sell-outs it seems, although I suppose that applies to any genre of music.

[levi0000]

Mass Effect 1 was more immersive.



Mass Effect 2 has better combat.



Depends on what you care about more.

[RinpocheSchnozberry]

No, ME2 is better than ME1. ME2 is replayable. Thanks to the Mako and the absurd inventory, ME1 is not an experience I want to repeat. I loved it the first time around for the story and the characters and the great cut scenes. After the ten thousandth Mako drive over barren sleep inducing planets... I swore that I would never drive the Mako any place ever again.

[sinosleep]

Funkcase wrote...

I agree, thats what I meant by ''usually atleast'' but the majorty of mainstream are sell-outs it seems, although I suppose that applies to any genre of music.

Yeah. Man it feels good to talk hip hop on the Mass Effect forums. Last time I got into it the thread got locked.

[Thozi]

ME1
+ Better story
+ Better RPG
+ Better cooldown and skill-system

- Some bugs
- Mako
- Inventory

ME2
+ Better Shooter
+ Better Renegade/Paragon system

- Too many companions
- Too simplified
- Ammo powers
- No inventory

I'm not saying which one is better because I liked both of them.

Modifié par Darth_Pete, 11 janvier 2011 - 06:09 .

[padaE]

KoTOR is better than ME1 but ME2 is better than both.
.
And there is really no room for comparison, ME1 was a fantastic game, but it had many flaw and was underdeveloped. ME2 is just superior.
.
Edit: Mass Effect 1 wasn't a better RPG, it was more closer to a tradicional RPG. Because ME2 is a big step foward to what RPG should be like. 

Modifié par padaE, 11 janvier 2011 - 06:15 .

[darknoon5]

I agree kotor is my favorite bioware RPG, but it's only slightly ahead of the ME series.

[bjdbwea]

I think that ME 1 is better than ME 2 in every aspect, except obviously graphics and sound. ME 1 is one of those games that prove that video games can be their own, unique form of art. ME 2 on the other hand is a "streamlined" product for the mass market that lost almost everything that I liked about its predecessor.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 11 janvier 2011 - 06:20 .

[Aglazzboi]

I like both of them for the 75th time.

[darknoon5]

bjdbwea wrote...

I think that ME 1 is better than ME 2 in every aspect, except obviously graphics and sound. ME 1 is one of those games that prove that video games can be their own, unique form of art. ME 2 on the other hand is a "streamlined" product for the mass market that lost almost everything that I liked about its predecessor.

Alot of the streamlining in ME2 isn't only good, but necessary. (dull exploration, omni-gelling everything, every option on the dialouge saying the same thing)
I agree some cuts were too far, such as no make (even for story missions) and a far less accesible inventory, but on the whole, ME2 is a more enjoyable RPG, and it focus more on choices and dialouge then the dull, 90's aspects of RPG's. It still has a great and vibrant universe, though I do still prefer the ME1 storyline.

[TRISTAN WERBE]

they are equal in my mind

[darknoon5]

Remus Artega wrote...

and yet these threads seems to be popping up pretty intesively in the past few months...

Obviously. People love moaning. Plus, I love the game, but I've never made a "Zomg THANK YOU AMAZING GAME BIOWARE" thread, but when I've been disatisfied, I've made a thread. People always talk more about faults then about sucessess, imo.
Like I said, general consesus and polls show ME2 is indeed more popular. If you don't believe me, I can make a poll now to test it, without "hype as the game has just been released" interefering.

[Soul Reaver]

ME1 has a better story, but everything else is better in ME2

[Jorina Leto]

Yeah Bioware made better inventorys like in Dragon Age. But that's a minor flaw.

And what is the problem with the MAKO? Yeah if you just drive in a straigth line it is your mistake. There are path you could use... you only need to find them.