I'm firmly with the No side, but my boyfriend seemed to think that for me3 to make game of the year it needs MP, but hes not addicted to mass effect as much as I am.
What do you guys think?
Do you want multiplayer in ME3? Vote in the poll
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#127
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 03:43
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Julie Shepard wrote...
I'm firmly with the No side, but my boyfriend seemed to think that for me3 to make game of the year it needs MP, but hes not addicted to mass effect as much as I am.
What do you guys think?
If a game needs MP to win GotY then I guess I'll have to stop buying GotY games.
#128
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 03:46
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Nope. In a series like Mass Effect it just seems so unneeded, Imagine if a Silent Hill game had multiplayer. Stupid, right? Same logic applies to the Mass Effect series.
#129
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 03:51
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Julie Shepard wrote...
I'm firmly with the No side, but my boyfriend seemed to think that for me3 to make game of the year it needs MP, but hes not addicted to mass effect as much as I am.
What do you guys think?
Here's what I think of that.
#130
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 04:05
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I don't give a flying pile of geth excrement if it wins GotY or not. *We* know it kicks a**, so who cares? If the only way to win the award is to go MP and detract from the SP experience (which is always what happens IME), then that award is ridiculous.
Edited to mention that I'm aware that geth wouldn't technically *have* excrement, but it just sounded amusing to me.
Edited to mention that I'm aware that geth wouldn't technically *have* excrement, but it just sounded amusing to me.
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#131
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 04:29
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amers1015 wrote...
I don't give a flying pile of geth excrement if it wins GotY or not. *We* know it kicks a**, so who cares? If the only way to win the award is to go MP and detract from the SP experience (which is always what happens IME), then that award is ridiculous.
Edited to mention that I'm aware that geth wouldn't technically *have* excrement, but it just sounded amusing to me.
i think they have white blood so mabye a little excrement
But yeah you dont need to tell me that I know its true, pretty much everybody who visits these boards knows that.. there was just a ton of talk around what last month? about adding it to push a bioware game to goty, which is the only reason i could even fathom them entertaining that idea and it makes my guts churn thinking about such a horror.
#132
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:03
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Team Deathmatch multiplayer would be stupid and totally unbalance the style of combat ME is built around. I like CoD multiplayer for what it is, but Mass Effect doesn't fit that.
Co-op for ME3 is viable and could be an interesting twist if they upped the difficulty enough a la Halo:Reach. This could be campaign co-op or a Firefight/Zombies type scenario where you play a survival game, either one would work.
Ill throw this out there too... I played Assassin's Creed I & II but haven't picked up Brotherhood yet. Still, all the reviews I have read noted that while everyone was iffy about how AC would fit with MP but that they pulled it off rather well. If the dev team is creative enough they might surprise us. Keep in mind they are already adapting KOTOR, a SP game with basically the same combat system as ME, to what looks like a decent MMO. I have enough faith in Bioware that if they include MP they will find a way to make it good.
I agree with others though, if they sacrifice anything out of the campaign for the MP it won't be worth it. That seems to be the way of the last few CoD games and its enough to make me never want to buy another one of their titles.
Co-op for ME3 is viable and could be an interesting twist if they upped the difficulty enough a la Halo:Reach. This could be campaign co-op or a Firefight/Zombies type scenario where you play a survival game, either one would work.
Ill throw this out there too... I played Assassin's Creed I & II but haven't picked up Brotherhood yet. Still, all the reviews I have read noted that while everyone was iffy about how AC would fit with MP but that they pulled it off rather well. If the dev team is creative enough they might surprise us. Keep in mind they are already adapting KOTOR, a SP game with basically the same combat system as ME, to what looks like a decent MMO. I have enough faith in Bioware that if they include MP they will find a way to make it good.
I agree with others though, if they sacrifice anything out of the campaign for the MP it won't be worth it. That seems to be the way of the last few CoD games and its enough to make me never want to buy another one of their titles.
#134
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:37
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I still say no. .
A stand alone MMO like KOTOR is nothing like a Shooter with MP tacked on. Turned based play is much different than what is going on these days in the MP universe. And again there are TONS of MP games out there. . .
And no matter how anyone cuts it. . the cost of it will always get passed to the BUYER and I rather see as much of the costs go to the story. I can't tell you how many game's stories have been cut back and suffered over the years with issues surrounding the MP tacked on the final product. And there are a number of titles that have already been posted in this thread by others. If they want to sell it as a stand alone like Valve did with Counter Strike. . then fine. But asking me to pay for that crap in one big package and conning me it didn't or will not effect the story when I can obviously see that it did just annoys the hell out of me. I much rather they spent their time getting the story right, and getting rid of as many bugs as possible before release. Too many titles in this industry these days are getting out with some major bugs. . . Starwars Force Unleashed 2? anyone anyone?? and I'm sure there are others out there as well.
A stand alone MMO like KOTOR is nothing like a Shooter with MP tacked on. Turned based play is much different than what is going on these days in the MP universe. And again there are TONS of MP games out there. . .
And no matter how anyone cuts it. . the cost of it will always get passed to the BUYER and I rather see as much of the costs go to the story. I can't tell you how many game's stories have been cut back and suffered over the years with issues surrounding the MP tacked on the final product. And there are a number of titles that have already been posted in this thread by others. If they want to sell it as a stand alone like Valve did with Counter Strike. . then fine. But asking me to pay for that crap in one big package and conning me it didn't or will not effect the story when I can obviously see that it did just annoys the hell out of me. I much rather they spent their time getting the story right, and getting rid of as many bugs as possible before release. Too many titles in this industry these days are getting out with some major bugs. . . Starwars Force Unleashed 2? anyone anyone?? and I'm sure there are others out there as well.
#135
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:43
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Keep multiplayer away from games with good stories, and keep it in the generic fps games.
#136
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:49
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Julie Shepard wrote...
I'm firmly with the No side, but my boyfriend seemed to think that for me3 to make game of the year it needs MP, but hes not addicted to mass effect as much as I am.
What do you guys think?
Lack of multiplayer did not seem to prevent ME2 from winning multiple GoTY awards. Just throwing that out there.
#137
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:52
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Well, someone said "singleplayer is dead"; so exactly where are all the mp fans, every vote I see singleplayer always outweighs mp by a considerable margin, seriously, I don't see a lot of conviction from the mp fans
#138
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:54
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I feel like the Mass Effect universe could support multilayer. There are so many places Bioware could go with it. The First Contact War, Krogan/Salarian/Rachni confrontations, etc.
I think mechanically it'd work fine if Bioware did it right. class setups with different biotics/tech? Sure, why not? I'd like it. As long as it didn't detract from the singleplayer.
I think mechanically it'd work fine if Bioware did it right. class setups with different biotics/tech? Sure, why not? I'd like it. As long as it didn't detract from the singleplayer.
#139
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 05:57
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I acknowledge KOTOR isn't a shooter, but it does follow the same basic real-time combat with pausing for tactical control and squadmate orders that has become a Bioware signature. MP can't work with those pauses, at least I don't see how, so the KOTOR system had be be altered. The same thing would be true of time altering effects like sniper zoom and adrenaline rush. Granted the KOTOR MMO isn't out yet so we can't really see what they've done, but it at least looks like a promising example of a Bioware single player game with a similar formula being translated to MP. Its half a reason to be optimistic, IF they announce they will include MP. That's all.
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Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 06:09
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Concerning multiplayer, I think these are the most intelligent posts I've ever read on the matter....
And...........
ShepardOsiris wrote...
Lvl20DM wrote...
Red
Dead Redemption had MP and it was pretty long (20 to 30 hours?). It
seems more likely that the MP will be the lack-luster part, as Bioware
hasn't done much of it in the past. A series of co-op missions like
those in RDR could be pretty rockin'.
I agree, though, that any MP
shouldn't come at the expense of single-player. I just don't see that
happening with a Bioware game, though.
Red Dead
Redemption was also in development for 4 years, had a team that's been
building those exact kinds of games for more than a decade, and
astronomical resources at thier call, because every Rockstar game sells
10-15 million units. It can be done, but RDR is the exception to the
rule.
The entire Mass Effect trilogy probably won't
sell much more than half of what a typical Rockstar open world game
sells, so Bioware won't get unlimted resources, they don't have an
experienced crew of multiplayer devs, and from start to finish ME 3 is
already looking to be a little short on time in the oven for games of
it's genre, at probably around 22 months from start to finish. If
thier putting any effort into MP, it's just hard not to be worried about
it taking away from the SP.
And...........
http://social.biowar...index/5688312/3Mr. MannlyMan wrote...
The optimist says, "Anything can be done if the devs put their minds to it!" (blegh)
The
pessimist says, "Multiplayer sucks, if Bioware puts it in there it will
RUIN the whole franchise and they'll butcher their sales!"
The realist says, "Bioware should stick to what they do best, and fans should not expect a miracle from them."
Fair enough. There just seems to be so much ignorance in the gaming community regarding what game development actually entails.
I
hate how EA frequently seems to be feature-driven as opposed to
quality-driven. [caps]Every game does not need multiplayer to perform
well! If you want to put multiplayer in a game, you'd better damn well
make it a competitive and important feature rather than just a
money-wasting tack-on.[/caps]
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#141
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 06:15
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LOST GAM3R wrote...
I feel like the Mass Effect universe could support multilayer. There are so many places Bioware could go with it. The First Contact War, Krogan/Salarian/Rachni confrontations, etc.
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I agree that the Mass Effect UNIVERSE could support multiplayer.....just not ME3. ME3 is the conclusion to Shepards single player story. I would not mind seeing a massive multiplayer ME title in 2012 that does NOT involve Shepard.
#142
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 06:29
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Just so everyone knows, MP is in ME3 (confirmed when BW deleted the leak thread without any kind of reply) and this poll won't do anything. I know it's just to get peoples opinions, but just in case people think this poll will actually take MP out of ME3, expect a broken heart.
#143
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 06:44
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Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Just so everyone knows, MP is in ME3 (confirmed when BW deleted the leak thread without any kind of reply) and this poll won't do anything. I know it's just to get peoples opinions, but just in case people think this poll will actually take MP out of ME3, expect a broken heart.
Haven't been on for a solid month; can you elaborate please?
#144
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 06:46
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Not that it matters, we will complain about it but still purchase it, it's a trilogy and I doubt anyone here wants to miss the last part.Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Just so everyone knows, MP is in ME3 (confirmed when BW deleted the leak thread without any kind of reply) and this poll won't do anything. I know it's just to get peoples opinions, but just in case people think this poll will actually take MP out of ME3, expect a broken heart.
#145
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 07:20
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Another user was kind enough to clarify this for me; no need for a response anymore.
Anyways, this whole "leaked thread" issue could simply be a poor choice of words. I don't want to quote/post inappropriate or rule-breaking content, but one of Chris' statements could be interpreted as "don't confirm or deny rumors unless the public has access to such information". However, I will admit that Chris' emphasis on the typical ME/ME2 thread-closer compared to ME3 is worrisome to say the least.
On a somewhat unrelated note, if (yes, if) MP is included in ME3 why the sudden push for MP? Didn't ME2 win a staggering amounts of GOTY awards/perfect scores from multiple reviewers? I guess I'm hinting at a "if its not broke don't fix it" approach on the current situation.
Anyways, this whole "leaked thread" issue could simply be a poor choice of words. I don't want to quote/post inappropriate or rule-breaking content, but one of Chris' statements could be interpreted as "don't confirm or deny rumors unless the public has access to such information". However, I will admit that Chris' emphasis on the typical ME/ME2 thread-closer compared to ME3 is worrisome to say the least.
On a somewhat unrelated note, if (yes, if) MP is included in ME3 why the sudden push for MP? Didn't ME2 win a staggering amounts of GOTY awards/perfect scores from multiple reviewers? I guess I'm hinting at a "if its not broke don't fix it" approach on the current situation.
#146
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 07:22
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Well if it had co-op stand alone missions COD special ops style then definatly yes that would be awesome (missions with unique gameplay like Grunt's loyalty mission would be ideal 
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#147
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 07:37
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DJBare wrote...
Not that it matters, we will complain about it but still purchase it, it's a trilogy and I doubt anyone here wants to miss the last part.Gibb_Shepard wrote...
Just so everyone knows, MP is in ME3 (confirmed when BW deleted the leak thread without any kind of reply) and this poll won't do anything. I know it's just to get peoples opinions, but just in case people think this poll will actually take MP out of ME3, expect a broken heart.
I won't buy the game if it has MP. I don't buy any other MP games, so I have no reason to start now. It'll be sad, but hey, it's just a game.
EDIT: OKay, I'll buy it if the MP element comes on a separate disc I can then use to cut carrots, throw away or burn, but is not required to play the SP game. Also, I want the ME3 SP game to be longer, have more detail and dialogue than ME2. Then I'll gladly buy it.
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#148
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 08:06
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I voted no, not that it will "help" if they have decided ofcourse, though as the poster aboive, if they have MP, I do hope they use all the extra resources they get for including it on the SP part of the game.
#149
Posté 12 janvier 2011 - 08:07
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JamieCOTC wrote...
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EDIT: OKay, I'll buy it if the MP element comes on a separate disc I can then use to cut carrots, throw away or burn, but is not required to play the SP game. Also, I want the ME3 SP game to be longer, have more detail and dialogue than ME2. Then I'll gladly buy it.
