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[MatCauthonReborn]

Hello all

I've only recently bought a PS3 and decided to give Dragon Age a shot.  I'm an old school lover of Baldur's Gate and Star Wars KOTOR so I knew I'd enjoy the game even if it is a brand new ruleset.  Anyways, onto my question...

I've noticed there are a number of very expensive items for sale amongst the many merchants in the game.  At no point during my quests have I spent large sums of money on healing packs or anything else yet I still seem to be well short of affording these 'super' items.  This is my first run through and I only have the Dwarves to recruit before I go to the landsmeet and I was wondering if this was normal?

Also, my character build for the game is a Dwarf Commoner Warrior who has access to both Berzerker and Champion specialities.  He is built towards dual wielding and seems to be holding his own.  I often find that I am taking Wynne, Morrigan and another Warrior (or Dog) with me on quests.  I'm finding Zevram and Leilani (?) too lightweight to help in most fights.  How can I use them better?  Please bear in mind that the PS3 system of controls is tricky enough to use in moving around your party without having to worry about getting people into backstabbing positions! 

With the aforementioned party will I struggle in the later fights?  I know that in most Bioware games you can beat the game with most party mixes but I'd appreciate some hints about which characters I might want to practise their skills a little more

Thanks 

[Zahe]

Hi there, welcome to the DA community. Lack of gold for those items are to be expected at that point in the game unless you make a concious effort towards making gold. The really expensive items (100g~) are usually some of the best in the game so it is to be expected.

For the party setup, the base usually is one of each class and then fill whatever the last spot is with what you feel you need/want. Rogues usually works best as Archers if you don't want to micro them, since melee rogues have to be behind the target to be any real threat. However the reason most people take rogues is for traps and lockpicking, a mix between mages and warriors should be a good enough setup for the combat that you wouldn't need to worry about gimping yourself.

Shoot away if you got anymore questions!

Modifié par Zahe, 11 janvier 2011 - 08:51 .

[LlamaDiscon]

I think I had a bit over 100 gold on my first playthrough when I was finishing up the game with Orzammar. I couldn't be arsed to farm, but I've heard of two great options:



1: Doing the trap quest in Lothering over and over

2: Making Potent Lyrium Potions.

[yarrum k]

If you save as much as possible it still won't be possible to afford much without getting an extra job. The good news is that many of the best items can be found at no cost during the quests.



It is more a matter of want than need since it is very possible to succeed without buying any major item.



There are really only two...um, four...no, eight essential items that must be purchased. What the heck, buy everything that costs more than fifty just to make sure. It is better to have too many great items than not enough.

[BillWatson08]

If you get the cudgel from one of the DLC's, you can get a lot for it (at least on the PC). Also if you run a Dwarven Noble, your friend pays you twice what everyone else gives you when you sell items. I've just started the Landsmeet and I've got over 2000 gp. But then I also do every quest and sold 1200 traps to Alison.

[abaris]

1: Doing the trap quest in Lothering over and over
2: Making Potent Lyrium Potions.

Lyrium doesn't cut it. I just tried and you get about the same amount of gold you invested in ingridients.

[mousestalker]

abaris wrote...

1: Doing the trap quest in Lothering over and over
2: Making Potent Lyrium Potions.

Lyrium doesn't cut it. I just tried and you get about the same amount of gold you invested in ingridients.

Merchants sell the same items at different prices. You're buying the ingredients from the wrong merchants.

[Zahe]

^ That. Making Potent lyrium potions is a great way of making gold. Buy dust at a certain tower and the rest of the stuff at the Gnawed Noble.

[abaris]

Zahe wrote...

^ That. Making Potent lyrium potions is a great way of making gold. Buy dust at a certain tower and the rest of the stuff at the Gnawed Noble.

In other words Bodans discount isn't worth diddly...

[mousestalker]

At the risk of breaking the 'no spoilers rule', if a dwarf tells you he is giving you a discount, typically he is lying. There is exactly one dwarven merchant who gives a discount.

[Zy-El]

Yes, there is a lot of pretty gear sold by the merchants but it is not worthwhile buying that gear for anyone but your main PC. If you're a Warrior, you have no need to get that uber Staff. Also, the key to getting a lot of gold is selling off stuff you don't need. Sell anything and everything you don't need.

Rogues are handy in that they can steal from anybody you can interact with. The stolen stuff can then be sold for gold. They also open locks and can disarm traps that yield xps to ALL party members. Yes, if Leliana picks a lock, everybody in the party gets the 30 xps, not just her. So, by picking every lock and disarming every trap, you might gain a couple more levels than you would without a Rogue in your party.

[Zahe]

abaris wrote...

In other words Bodans discount isn't worth diddly...

Precisely.

Also I disagree somewhat on the point that you shouldn't buy stuff for anyone but the Warden. If the Warden isn't a tank himself, getting stuff for your meatshield generally is a good investment. Especially magic resist items tend to be worthwhile.

[abaris]

Zy-El wrote...

Yes, there is a lot of pretty gear sold by the merchants but it is not worthwhile buying that gear for anyone but your main PC. If you're a Warrior, you have no need to get that uber Staff. Also, the key to getting a lot of gold is selling off stuff you don't need. Sell anything and everything you don't need.

Sure, but usually it pays to outfit all the players as best as you can.

[Zy-El]

You can usually find enough good gear for free to equip on your companions. You can only have 3 companions in your party - ergo, you only need the best of gear for those 3. There's no need to spend gold for a suit of armor for all the tanks when you only use 1 tank at a time.

I favour a melee Rogue and usually have one of each class in my party or sometimes I prefer a girls' night out (ie all females in the party).

[abaris]

Zy-El wrote...

You can usually find enough good gear for free to equip on your companions. You can only have 3 companions in your party - ergo, you only need the best of gear for those 3. There's no need to spend gold for a suit of armor for all the tanks when you only use 1 tank at a time.
I favour a melee Rogue and usually have one of each class in my party or sometimes I prefer a girls' night out (ie all females in the party).

I'm not talking about buying equipment. I'm rather talking about buying books to sharpen the intellectual capacities of my characters.

[termokanden]

I buy books for my main character first. Then I buy other items my main character needs. Once I've bought all of that, if I still have money left, I invest in books and a few of the best items for party members. Without the DLC, you might not be able to get all of that, but I suggest following that order anyway without worrying all that much about money.

By the way, there is a DLC item from Golems of Amgarrak that can be sold for 339 gold. Twice that amount for dwarf nobles if sold at the right merchant. With that one you can buy pretty much what you want.

Modifié par termokanden, 14 janvier 2011 - 01:15 .

[ZetaSheperd]

There is a quest called Precious Metals in Orzammar that is probably the most rewarding in term of gold profits. You'll need a high coercion and some gold to invest at the begining of the quest. I suggest you look for it in the wiki.



Also, collect everything from every dead bodies to locked stashes and sell to Bodhan. If your inventory is full in middle of a quest, destroy regular stuff first. Stuff with extra attributes are more worthy when sold.



Finally, if you have some of the DLC, it's a good idea to do them first. Every DLC completed will grant you some great gear in every other characters made (Origins or Awakening). Look for DLC quests/rewards in the wiki.



Good luck.

[BillWatson08]

I just finished Origins with about 2800 gold.

[Stealth2Kill]

Making Potent Lyrium Potions is a great way of making gold! The first 2 or 3 times you won't make that much money but after a few times you will start getting a lot of money!



check the dragon Age Wiki for the details about how to do this.

[USArmyParatrooper]

Stealth2Kill wrote...

Making Potent Lyrium Potions is a great way of making gold! The first 2 or 3 times you won't make that much money but after a few times you will start getting a lot of money!

check the dragon Age Wiki for the details about how to do this.

An important note on that, make sure you're not buying ingredients from the wrong vendor. I made that mistake and was actually losing money. Hint: Don't buy them from the guy in your party camp. I get them from the tavern in Denerim, and of course the only place that sells unlimited lyrium dust in the circle of magi.

Total cost for each potion is 1.031 gold. Divide the total amount of gold you have by 1.031 and round down to the nearest whole number.

So let's say you calculate 100.4589, that means you can make 100 potions. From Denerim buy 100 flasks, 200 concentrator agents and 200 distilation agents. Then go to the circle tower and buy 400 Lyrium Dust.

Make 100 Potent Lyrium Potions and sell back. The profit on 100 potions is I think 22 gold or so. Then of course on 200 potions it's 44 gold and so on. Now that you made a profit recalculate how many potions you can make and repeat in reverse, selling the potent potions to the guy in Denerim.

If you're going to make large amounts of money you need to make sure you have plenty of room in your inventory. Every 99 of an item is one slot that is taken.

Modifié par USArmyParatrooper, 16 janvier 2011 - 04:31 .

[termokanden]

BillWatson08 wrote...

I just finished Origins with about 2800 gold.

Which exploit did you use?

[PlayingWithKnives]

Erm wow lol how long does it take to travel back and forth making those lyrium potions to make enough gold to buy the few epic items ?

[D4rkFire]

If you re playing on the Xbox you can use the money glitch to get as much gold as you want