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[hangmans tree]

Hi.
It hit me on the TW2 forums that some of the newly arrived individuals (female gender) has written off the game after learning that the it has a fixed, male, gender - you can only play that dude with white hair (lol).

I would like to ask you Ladies, what importance has the gender in DA2? Would you pick it up regardeless based on...what? BW legacy? Story? Universe and lore? Characters and acting?
I know that the decision leaving only a human origin for Hawke made some uproar. What if Hawke was set as a male only character? Human male.
What makes the game unique (supposedly - it aint out yet - duh)? What is the first thing that draws female gamers to the title?

On the other side of things, if DA2 had a fixed female character, like Lara Croft lets say, would it be more appealing?

Speak up Ladies! Call it my need to know!

[Maugrim]

I prefer to mainly play a female character and always appreciate the option, but have and will continue to enjoy franchises where I can play only a male character. It grates more when the limitation doesn't make any sense and it down to budget/laziness but that's life for ya.

[wulfsturm]

I'm no lady, but I thought the answer was pretty obvious: It's kind of harder to relate to a character that is the opposite gender then you, even If you're inclined to play one. Especially if you're going to be spending many hours in a game trying to role-play, some people would just rather role-play something that is more familiar then not.

I'm broadly generalizing but there's my take to it.

Modifié par wulfsturm, 12 janvier 2011 - 08:49 .

[Anna0_o]

I might consider buying it if Hawke was set male...But having the female option makes it SO much more appealing to me, Thankyou, Bioware.

[Matchy Pointy]

wulfsturm wrote...

I'm no lady, but I thought the answer was pretty obvious: It's kind of harder to relate to a character that is the opposite gender then you, even If you're inclined to play one. Especially if you're going to be spending many hours in a game trying to role-play, some people would just rather role-play something that is more familiar then not.

I'm broadly generalizing but there's my take to it.

Well, for me, and I'm a guy, I always for some reason relate much more to female characters then male ones in RPGs, so being able to create your own character is one of the things that hold DA2 far over TWw in my regard (even though I'm interested in both).

[namedforthemoon]

I've played the first Fable, where you could only be a male character. I also played The Witcher... While it was fun, I find I have a lot more fun and connection when playing a game where I can be a female character. I'm so glad that Bioware gives us females that option, and even changes the dialogue and certain questlines to reflect that the character I'm playing is female.

[Gloriana]

How about if it was opposite? You could only play as a female, would it be a turnoff for you?



A lot of people like to play as their gender, especially if romance is involved. I have zero interest in romancing other girls, as I am not a lesbian. It's not necessarily a immediate "no" -- since a lot of fantastic games have a fixed narrative -- but having the option is a definite plus.

[Malu Cap]

Well, if DA2 only had a male PC then I would still probably play it but I would not buy it first day of release, or even pre-order it.  I would probably wait for the price to go down.  Or I'd buy it because I've finished all the other games that I wanted to play & have nothing new to play...you know that sort of thing.  

One of the things I love about Bioware games is the ability to play a character that is the same as my gender.  This for me is a big deal, specially for role playing games.  I guess you'd still be able to role play a character that is of the opposite gender (I've created male characters for DAO & ME) but these are all in my 2nd, 3rd etc playthrough.  My primary & canon (for me) PC is always female.  I guess it's because I feel more attached to my character that way.  Usually when I create male PCs its because I'm curious as to what it would be like to be a guy? LOL.

I dunno if my answer makes any sense, but there 

[trickybunny]

Usually in games where I can create a character I like for them to be female, but it's not make or break. I played Origins as a male first and it's honestly my favorite and most preferred playthrough. Fable gets a mention too since when it came to them giving us an option I still opted to play as a male first, I dunno I guess I'm so used to playing as a male protagonist that it wouldn't bother me any of DA went the male only path.

I guess it's because it's just really hard to get behind a female protagonist as most of them are either to much fanservice and not enough substance, or the developers go out of their way to make her overly powerful and good at everything who's hardened and emotionless and then they just end up making a Sue, there's never enough balance. 

Modifié par trickybunny, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:06 .

[Spuro]

I'm not surprised, female gamers in MMORPGs almost always play a female character as well.  There are exceptions of course, but compared to the number of males to roll female characters, it's a bit of a difference.

Modifié par Spuro, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:07 .

[marquiseondore]

DA:O was my first Bioware game. So for me it was a unique experience to play as a female. The majority of games I've played that provide an option for gender made no impact on the rest of the game. As useless as picking a pink straw instead of blue.

[wulfsturm]

marquiseondore wrote...

DA:O was my first Bioware game. So for me it was a unique experience to play as a female. The majority of games I've played that provide an option for gender made no impact on the rest of the game. As useless as picking a pink straw instead of blue.

And even then, BioWare games tend to treat both sexes fairly equily; I.E. same amount of romances, equal representation and pressence, etc. Not saying that's bad, far from it but I found it interesting all the same.

[Azjurai]

makenzieshepard wrote...

I prefer to mainly play a female character and always appreciate the option, but have and will continue to enjoy franchises where I can play only a male character. It grates more when the limitation doesn't make any sense and it down to budget/laziness but that's life for ya.

This.

Still looking forward to playing as Geralt again though

[duckphone07]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

I'm no lady, but I thought the answer was pretty obvious: It's kind of harder to relate to a character that is the opposite gender then you, even If you're inclined to play one. Especially if you're going to be spending many hours in a game trying to role-play, some people would just rather role-play something that is more familiar then not.

I'm broadly generalizing but there's my take to it.

Well, for me, and I'm a guy, I always for some reason relate much more to female characters then male ones in RPGs, so being able to create your own character is one of the things that hold DA2 far over TWw in my regard (even though I'm interested in both).

I am also a guy who has an easier time connecting with female PC's rather than male ones.  I play through both genders multiple times in all the Bioware games I have played, but my first and canon playthrough has always been female.  I don't know why I connect to female PC's more.  I have a theory, but it is too lengthy to post here.  So if Bioware went a route where it was male only or female only, I wouldn't be so bothered by it to the point of never buying the game, but I see the option of being male or female something that should never be removed.  If they had to do so, I would want them to make the PC female only rather than male only, but I can't see that being the case.  If they did go that route, they would most likely make the PC male only.  In any case, I would buy the game anyway and most likely enjoy it immensley.

[errant_knight]

Well...I often end up playing a male character if the female animations and body model makes me crazy. The last thing that's immersive to me is playing a female warrior who's waving her booty at the camera like a streetwalker advertising her wares. When that's not the case, yeah, I like to play female, and even more so, I like it that the developers are taking the roleplaying aspect seriously enough to give me choices in developing my character. On the other hand, a voiced protagonist is more likely to turn me away from a game than lack of gender choice.

[Kidd]

I love being able to create a character I can relate more to. Makes lots of things feel more personal somehow, not just romances. Especially when I do "me"-playthroughs, of course, but even when I roleplay. I haven't made a male character in a game where I've had a choice in many years now...
And honestly, it's so much more fun to design a female face than a male one... for some reason lol. Same with equipping them and stuff. I dunno, perhaps I just prefer to dress myself up instead of dressing up a potential partner? Something like that might be at work, I have no idea.

Modifié par KiddDaBeauty, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:18 .

[marquiseondore]

wulfsturm wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

DA:O was my first Bioware game. So for me it was a unique experience to play as a female. The majority of games I've played that provide an option for gender made no impact on the rest of the game. As useless as picking a pink straw instead of blue.

And even then, BioWare games tend to treat both sexes fairly equily; I.E. same amount of romances, equal representation and pressence, etc. Not saying that's bad, far from it but I found it interesting all the same.

Playing as a female has its advantages.

Modifié par marquiseondore, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:22 .

[Shadelon]

 You're misinformed. Sorely misinformed. It does NOT have a fixed Male character, meaning you can only play a male character. There is a female character option also. AND there IS a character creator.

Modifié par Shadelon, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:26 .

[Allison W]

Whether I can play a female character actually influences my choices quite a bit these days. It didn't so much when I was younger (I still preferred to play female characters when I could, but suffice it to say there was a lot less leeway), but these days, my tolerance is kind of starting to wane. It's not an absolute necessity, particularly if it's a franchise I know is going to always be excellent like Mario or Zelda, but for most games, it's a serious consideration for me.

[Anna0_o]

Shadelon wrote...

 You're misinformed. Sorely misinformed. It does NOT have a fixed Male character, meaning you can only play a male character. There is a female character option also. AND there IS a character creator.

OP was asking the question in general, about what the importance of being able to play as female is to a female gamer, not out of misinformation. 

[request denied]

wulfsturm wrote...

marquiseondore wrote...

DA:O was my first Bioware game. So for me it was a unique experience to play as a female. The majority of games I've played that provide an option for gender made no impact on the rest of the game. As useless as picking a pink straw instead of blue.

And even then, BioWare games tend to treat both sexes fairly equily; I.E. same amount of romances, equal representation and pressence, etc. Not saying that's bad, far from it but I found it interesting all the same.

 One of the best things about DA is that there is no penalty for playing Female , in Oblivion if i wanted to be a Fem warrior she was not as strong as a male . IMO there are more and more girls playing and it helps to be able to play as your own gender .

[Nadia]

marquiseondore wrote...

DA:O was my first Bioware game. So for me it was a unique experience to play as a female. The majority of games I've played that provide an option for gender made no impact on the rest of the game. As useless as picking a pink straw instead of blue.

I could say exacty the same thing.

I always play as female on my first playthrough because it's easier for me to identify and I experience more intense feelings while playing.
Then when I think gender makes some difference in game - like in Dragon Age, I play as a male character and find it very interesting and fun - I still get emotionally attached to the character but my emotions are not so intensive anymore, but it's due to the fact that I know what will happen in the story + gender.

[Renessa]

I must admit, it is a huge thing for me. It can decide whether I buy a game or not, especially if the male protagonist does not do anything for me.



I prefer playing female characters, because I can relate to them better. It is one of the things that makes Bioware games so attractive for me. Not only can you play a female - the game actually recognizes that. Your story changes etc. I am trying out Oblivion at the moment and I have the feeling it does not matter in the slightest what sex you are.



I used to avoid RPGs were you could only play males, but funnily enough The Witcher changed this for me. I had read some short stories before and in the end I could not resist it and tried it out. First I hated it, but then I started liking Geralt a lot. It felt more like watching a film about a guy you thought was cute, but it worked on that level.



Since then I tried out a male Shepard and a male Warden and it was really fun. The game experience is totally different for me, though. As I said, it is much more like creating a character you would like/fancy, then roleplaying as I do with female chars.



I also always have to envision a "type" I want to play (sort of: this Shepard is like John Wayne and this Warden like Errol Flynn) or something. Otherwise I find it so hard to "act or think like a man". Weird, I know.



My first playthroughs are still always female.

[s0meguy6665]

The Witcher 2 is about the protagonist - which happens to be male. There's also games with female protagonists and men don't whine about it.

[Ms .45]

 Just for a compare and contrast, Diablo II offered male and female but with fixed class - ie if you were female your choices were sorceress, amazon, and assassin (exp. pack), and if male, barbarian, necromancer and druid. Thankfully both mage classes were fantastic (the druid looked really lame until you got to know him), but I wasn't surprised when Blizzard moved to having male or female choices for each class. Having said that, your character in Diablo didn't have any sort of inner life worth speaking of, so it didn't make much difference to the story. 
I like having the option to play male or female with a detailed character creator. I tend to play female rogues as it just seems a tiny bit more realistic than a female warrior (at least in a medieval fantasy world - in something like Mass Effect where you have all sorts of science fictiony enhancements it's not so unfeasible). I also liked being able to have a shot at making a character who looks like me - woo yay dwarves! (My nose isn't as big as my avatar, and I don't have red hair. Or tattoos. The resemblance is more from the neck down.)
The savegame I import to DA2 will be my male mage who romanced Morrigan AND Leliana (until Leliana gave him an ultimatum) and gave Morrigan her god baby, then went through the mirror with her. That was really fun. But if I couldn't play as female, I wouldn't have been able to romance Alistair in the mod-less version, and we can't have that, can we?