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[hangmans tree]

I must say that I feel the same way and could not wear female skin ingame I always play my own gender for immersion I guess.

But on the other hand the artwork and renders of Lara - the survival horror/whatever one - appeals to me greatly too. Lose all the boobs and skirts and ribbons with cat ears, make a fleshed out female character with edge and it gets really interesting for me - regardless of gender. Motivation and personal story, then the design of a character are really important.



Whether its fixed character or one you can make from scratch its still RPG.

[Korva]

As for predefined female protagonists (who are not pornographic fantasies) ... yes that would be far more appealing than a predefined male, or at least has the possibility depending on how the character is designed and the story is told. Case in point: I don't know if anyone here remembers the old graphics adventure Legends of Kyrandia 2: Hand of Fate. It had a female protagonist who was smart, take-charge, and no one (at least as far as I remember) went "ew a gurl! gurlz cant save teh world lol" on her. So far so good.

I was annoyed by how the protagonist magically changes her clothes in every new area (the ol' stereotype of fashion-crazy women), but could live with it. However, what totally ended up ruining the game is that in the end, after solving all the puzzles, fixing all the problems, and more than once saving the ass of an utterly annoying, incompetent and smarmy guy who tagged after her acting like the wannabe hero and "protector" -- this smart, skilled, take-charge woman leaps into the arms of this guy and gushes over him as her hero!

It made zero sense, there was no reason for it, and in fact it completely lead the entire game and its protagonist ad absurdum. A game like that would (and did) annoy me a lot more than the nth lookatthissupermanlymachohe-manguy protganonist or even a Lara Croft pinup ever could. So, a set female protagonist does not equal better in my eyes, it just has the potential to be more appealing if handled well. Big "if" there.

(But, again, if a game wants to be considered a RPG, a set female protagonist would be as annoyingly limiting and a case of "false advertising" in my eyes as a male one.)

Modifié par Korva, 12 janvier 2011 - 12:09 .

[Wynne]

I played TW1. There was a hot elven rebel leader with a wretched-sexy voice in it.

I will play TW2 as there is a hot elven rebel leader with a wretched-sexy voice in it again.

Besides, the white-haired guy isn't old. He's got a hot, toned ass. So it's not like there's nothing  in there for the ladies.

But with Bioware games, I have come to expect double-gendered games from them. The possibility to play as a female is practically one of the foundations of my love for their games. My excitement would be halved, at least, if I could only play as Garrett.

Witcher's based on a book series with a fixed protagonist; that's why it has a fixed protagonist. Not so with Bioware's titles. I would never want to see them backslide after such a wonderful tradition has been established.

Besides, gender adds to replayability for both genders of player. I generally play once as a male just to see what it's like, and I enjoy seeing the difference.

[Liablecocksman]

I'm a man, so I will answer the opposite question.



I only ever play Male characters if I have the choice.

I only ever really play Male characters, to be honest.



Only game with a female main character that I've played through is Oni... And that game was quite awesome.



I have to say though, being maybe a little prejudice, that male gamers who choose to roleplay as female characters, are odd and maybe a little gay... I mean weird.

[KLUME777]

Matchy Pointy wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

I'm no lady, but I thought the answer was pretty obvious: It's kind of harder to relate to a character that is the opposite gender then you, even If you're inclined to play one. Especially if you're going to be spending many hours in a game trying to role-play, some people would just rather role-play something that is more familiar then not.

I'm broadly generalizing but there's my take to it.

Well, for me, and I'm a guy, I always for some reason relate much more to female characters then male ones in RPGs, so being able to create your own character is one of the things that hold DA2 far over TWw in my regard (even though I'm interested in both).

@Matchy Pointy,

I feel the same way.

[Aristorum]

I'm a lady and I like to play ladies. But the option to play one being absent from a game is not a deal breaker. Sure, I value playing my own gender, but if it's a genuinely good game either way, a main character's sex organs don't really bother me.

[Andraste_Reborn]

I generally avoid RPGs where you can only play as a male character. In other genres where fixed protagonists are standard it doesn't bother me, but part of the fun of roleplaying games is designing my own character within the boundaries the game creates. Cutting off the option of playing a female character is usually a dealbreaker for me. (The exception being Planescape: Torment.)



I have no idea how I'd feel about an RPG with a fixed female protagonist. I can't think of one, while I could name half a dozen with fixed male protagonists. This says something about the games industry and its market.

[PrinceOfFallout13]

i have played bayoneta so gender doesnt matter to me

[Lee337]

If given the choice I go for a man as a primary choice as, like many have said, it's easier to immerse yourself and identify.

If the game is a set gender, it doesn't bother me at all playing as a female.I can idendify with them as well as a man as long as the character has depth, not just there for show and is somewhat realistic.

Lara Croft as a character didn't really appeal to me despite liking the gameplay and looking forward to seeing her revamp. She looks a lot more like a normal person whilst still being attractive. The developers have said the game will be about her character and not sex appeal.

[sevalaricgirl]

I don't play games where I have to be a male lead, except for FPS. I never play rpgs where I am locked into being a male.

[HoonDing]

HolyAvenger wrote...

To be fair I struggle to think of a game with a female protagonist which isn't fanservice-y. See the new Tomb Raider game for example. Lara Croft's...assets have been scaled back, and the fan backlash is on.

The Longest Journey, Still Life, Dreamfall, Syberia, and many other adventure games.

Also, Metroid, America's McGee's Alice, No one lives forever, Summoner 2, Beyond good & evil...

Modifié par virumor, 12 janvier 2011 - 02:01 .

[Finduilas1]

wulfsturm wrote...

I'm no lady, but I thought the answer was pretty obvious: It's kind of harder to relate to a character that is the opposite gender then you, even If you're inclined to play one. Especially if you're going to be spending many hours in a game trying to role-play, some people would just rather role-play something that is more familiar then not.

I'm broadly generalizing but there's my take to it.

My take on it is the opposite. Characters that stand out are more interesting to roleplay. It's easy enough to come up with a motive and background of say a human mage. It's much more difficult (and less predictable) to relate to an orc paladin, who for some reason ended up where he is.

This makes for interesting roleplaying in my opinion. You've already played that human mages story to death in other RPGs. Putting yourself in someone elses place whose characteristics deviates so much from your own is a good practice imo and a lot of fun to boot.

Opposite gender characters are not that hard to relate to. Females aren't aliens. 

Modifié par Finduilas1, 12 janvier 2011 - 02:18 .

[Xewaka]

Finduilas1 wrote...
Opposite gender characters are not that hard to relate to. Females aren't aliens. 

*Looks shiftily at his "women are from venus" poster*

Suuuure...

[abaris]

Lee337 wrote...

If given the choice I go for a man as a primary choice as, like many have said, it's easier to immerse yourself and identify.

Even though I am male, I find it quite entertaining to play a female lead. Even more so if the sexism and prejudices shine through - as in origins. It's quite refreshing compared to the political correct but not realistic approach of so many other games.

[Xewaka]

abaris wrote...
Even though I am male, I find it quite entertaining to play a female lead. Even more so if the sexism and prejudices shine through - as in origins. It's quite refreshing compared to the political correct but not realistic approach of so many other games.

Unless the female is also a dwarf. For some reason, dwarf overrides female, while elf doesn't.

[Eudaemonium]

KLUME777 wrote...

Matchy Pointy wrote...

wulfsturm wrote...

I'm no lady, but I thought the answer was pretty obvious: It's kind of harder to relate to a character that is the opposite gender then you, even If you're inclined to play one. Especially if you're going to be spending many hours in a game trying to role-play, some people would just rather role-play something that is more familiar then not.

I'm broadly generalizing but there's my take to it.

Well, for me, and I'm a guy, I always for some reason relate much more to female characters then male ones in RPGs, so being able to create your own character is one of the things that hold DA2 far over TWw in my regard (even though I'm interested in both).

@Matchy Pointy,

I feel the same way.

Similarly, as a guy I find I relate much better to the character when I play a woman. I dunno, I guess I find male characters too... masculine? =/

I will play both though, and its not liek I'll only play games where you can play one gender, just given the option I nearly always pick female.

[Finduilas1]

Unless the female is also a dwarf. For some reason, dwarf overrides female, while elf doesn't.

No, elf overrides male

[xZitx]

As a woman, I played my first DAO run as a woman ingame too. But as I have  played games since when I was little...I have no problem to play a male character. Here in germany there is the "Gothic"-series, which I enjoyed greatly, or the Witcher...or...it was almost always a male (except DAo and venetica ) I dont mind playing male, but I can`t "feel" as if I am HIM. So for the "me"-playthroughs it's female...I noticed that when I play a (predefined or not) male character, I tend to watch if he looks sexy or attractive and he should look quite handsome in his armour ah..and I behave like I would like a guy to behave if he was my boyfriend xD

So, yes, I would still buy DA2 if it was male protagonstist, but I value it highly that I have the chance to play it as a female.

Modifié par xZitx, 12 janvier 2011 - 02:29 .

[Victia]

Well as a woman I would rather play as a woman if given the choice, that said ihave nothing against playing as a man, infact most games make you play as a male so it really doesnt bother me that much!



But basically being able to choose gender is a bonus not a right to me, and one that ivery grateful to bioware (and bethesda) for giving us. But i would still be as exxited about Da2 if I did have ro play as a man

[abaris]

Here in germany there is the "Gothic"-series, which I enjoyed greatly, or the Witcher...or...it was almost always a male (except DAo and venetica )

That's the reason why I never got interested in the Gothic series. I tried one of them once when it came for free with a copy of Gamestar, but grew bored very quickly. Fixed gender, fixed person, fixed background, no influence over character creation, no immersion for me.

[AngelicMachinery]

Would I pick up the game? Probably, the gender of the main character doesn’t matter… much. I play a lot of video games where the main character is male (Mostly because that’s the only choice.) Yet, I find it harder and harder to play role-playing games where I am not allowed to play as a female. I find it difficult to identify with a male lead to the point where it can get a little jarring. In games where the story is weak, or where the story is linear and without heavy dialogue choices it’s alright… but in a game like DA where you are essentially designing a character’s personality it really does help to be playing my preferred gender.

[Thiefy]

i dont mind either way really. a good game is a good game. been a gamer since i was 6 years old so i'm used to playing as a guy.



i find gender matters more to guys.i know a lot of guys who wont play a game with a female lead unless she is made super hot and guys can stare at her assets. i know guys who refuse to play female wardens because "it doesn't interest them", as they politely put it, and then I know guys who played female wardens their first play through (and subsequently romanced Leli)



not being able to play female will not turn me off from a game if i was already interested in it, but if there was a franchise i wasnt 'into' yet and there was a an option to play female or have specific goodies for females (like romances, etc.) i would look into it and consider getting it.



oh and it should be noted, i guess that given a choice to have one OR the other in different version, yeah, I do pick female. Like the game series Harvest Moon - you could only play as male for a while but after a while they started making a version for guys and a version for girls, seperately, so I stopped buying the male counterparts and bought the female ones (though now they just put both gender options on the same game).

[Gabey5]

i love both.. really adds to re playability!

[maxernst]

I play both genders, because it's interesting to see the world from a different perspective, if the game has enough depth to react to male and female characters differently. I don't feel that it's always necessary to include both genders as possibilities...Planescape: Torment requires you to be male, for example. On the other hand, I can certainly understand why a woman might not enjoy playing a particular, highly defined male character like Geralt (I don't enjoy playing Geralt myself). And I'd extend this to non-RPG games as well...I wouldn't think the fact that Morgan Freeman or J.C. Denton are male should greatly inhibit the enjoyment of a woman playing those games, but I can certainly see why a woman might not enjoy playing Duke Nukem. Not that all men would necessarily like him, either.