Gender importance
#201
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 12:32
#202
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 12:35
Seewomann wrote...
Blue on the outside....
Well I just haven't gotten to the bleeding part just yet...patience, it's not every day that I can find someone to shoot me in the face with a rocket launcher. :innocent:
#203
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 12:52
Naitaka wrote...
Seewomann wrote...
Blue on the outside....
Well I just haven't gotten to the bleeding part just yet...patience, it's not every day that I can find someone to shoot me in the face with a rocket launcher. :innocent:
ahh just forget about the shooting ha
#204
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 02:46
And I have both male and female friends. And I find it easy to relate to them regardless of gender if we have things in common.
#205
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 03:16
#206
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 03:16
Liable****sman wrote...
I'm a man, so I will answer the opposite question.
I only ever play Male characters if I have the choice.
I only ever really play Male characters, to be honest.
Only game with a female main character that I've played through is Oni... And that game was quite awesome.
I have to say though, being maybe a little prejudice, that male gamers who choose to roleplay as female characters, are odd and maybe a little gay... I mean weird.
This is the best, funniest post in the topic. At least it explains why some would never play a character of the opposite gender... because it'll make us all gay!
I'm a dude, more often than not I play a male character, such as Shepard, but I'm playing a female character in Dragon Age. Plus, being a lesbian actually makes you even awesomer than if you're a dude, that's something I've learned.
#207
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 03:47
But... why?
Putting personal beliefs aside, I think it's just any good writer's duty to do so.
#208
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 03:56
Otherwise, I don't play role-playing games if I can't play a female character. I can play action/adventure ones since you're not roleplaying in those games, you don't really make choices for your character. But if it's an RPG, it's a whole different matter.
I also think it's unfair. Most RPGs have their main protagonist as a blank slate, free for the player to fill in. Why then restrict the gender?
#209
Posté 14 janvier 2011 - 05:22
But in this day and age I do like to have the option of playing either sex when I'm in a game with a less pre-defined character. Even Shepard and Hawke, who are defined in some very specific ways, still allow enough freedom for you to choose your gender.
Personally, I never understood why someone would be bothered by others wanting to play another gender in game, or bothered by the idea of playing one themselves. In fact, my response to only being allowed to play males in games for so many years has been to default into always playing women my first time through in any game that gives me the option; I like the change.
And ... as an aside, here ... I was going to make a comment about being comfortable enough in my sexuality that playing another gender didn't bother me ... but then it really struck me, why should I even feel the slightest need to defend the decision. I see people throw around statements to the effect of, "I think guys who play girls are at least a little gay" (paraphrased, but taken right out of this thread) like they are insults and for a split second feel this knee jerk reaction where I want to say "not me!". But you know what, screw that. "Being gay" or "a little gay" is *not* an insult. In fact, I *am* a little gay. I like pretty things, I play female characters many times because I like the female perspective in a game, or I prefer the way their characters look; I like nice outfits, I look forward to the love interest parts of the game more than the combat ... I'd say most of those things would make me "a little gay" and I'm proud of it.
If better story, deeper character interaction and more choice are the result of the gaming industry becoming "more gay", I'd say it is about damn time.
Modifié par elearon1, 14 janvier 2011 - 05:25 .
#210
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:12
#211
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:59
elearon1 wrote...
Now that I think about it, though ... have there really been any games out lately that required you to play as a defined female character? Any roleplaying games ... ever?
I can't think of anything I would call a RPG, but I've played very few that had fixed male protagonists either. Someone did point out that there are more fixed protagonists out there than I thought; maybe I just tend to avoid games with fixed protagonists or tend not to consider them RPG's in a lot of cases. The closest thing I can thinkof would be the No One Lives Forever games. I wouldn't call them RPG's, but there was some stat progression at least in the second one and you did choose dialogue options, so some might I suppose.
Adventure games often have defined female protagonists (Syberia and the Longest Journey for example)...not that there are many of those these days.
#212
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 06:22
It's hard to go back to the same old stuff after that, so I spend a lot of time just waiting for the next Bioware game to come out. I'll still play action adventure games and the occasional FPS but I won't play an RPG without a female option anymore.
Funny thing is, I almost didn't buy Mass Effect because I thought it was the same old generic space hero guy game.
#213
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 06:25
yoshibb wrote...
I've played as a man in video games since I was a little girl with a Sega Genesis. I'm seriously tired of it, but I still play action games like Dead Rising, Assassin's Creed, and Bioshock. However, since I started playing Bioware's games I'm having trouble playing anything else. Even when I was a girl in RPGs like Oblivion, it didn't even seem to register with the system. I felt more genderless than female. I seriously wanted a game like Mass Effect my whole life. There's no needing to be saved by a man at some point, there's no senseless female emotions at random points, no pointless fanservice. It's just female Shepard kicking ass and saving the galaxy. I connected with that character more than any character I had played the past 20 years before that.
It's hard to go back to the same old stuff after that, so I spend a lot of time just waiting for the next Bioware game to come out. I'll still play action adventure games and the occasional FPS but I won't play an RPG without a female option anymore.
Funny thing is, I almost didn't buy Mass Effect because I thought it was the same old generic space hero guy game.
Ah yes, the fact they never used femshep for any advertisement for Mass Effect was a big mistake in my opinion. I really hope to see more lady Hawke as DAII draw closer to release.
#214
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 06:41
Naitaka wrote...
yoshibb wrote...
I've played as a man in video games since I was a little girl with a Sega Genesis. I'm seriously tired of it, but I still play action games like Dead Rising, Assassin's Creed, and Bioshock. However, since I started playing Bioware's games I'm having trouble playing anything else. Even when I was a girl in RPGs like Oblivion, it didn't even seem to register with the system. I felt more genderless than female. I seriously wanted a game like Mass Effect my whole life. There's no needing to be saved by a man at some point, there's no senseless female emotions at random points, no pointless fanservice. It's just female Shepard kicking ass and saving the galaxy. I connected with that character more than any character I had played the past 20 years before that.
It's hard to go back to the same old stuff after that, so I spend a lot of time just waiting for the next Bioware game to come out. I'll still play action adventure games and the occasional FPS but I won't play an RPG without a female option anymore.
Funny thing is, I almost didn't buy Mass Effect because I thought it was the same old generic space hero guy game.
Ah yes, the fact they never used femshep for any advertisement for Mass Effect was a big mistake in my opinion. I really hope to see more lady Hawke as DAII draw closer to release.
It's one of the big reasons I beg for more marketing of the female counterpart. I literally almost missed playing the best game of my life.
#215
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 06:44
yoshibb wrote...
Naitaka wrote...
yoshibb wrote...
I've played as a man in video games since I was a little girl with a Sega Genesis. I'm seriously tired of it, but I still play action games like Dead Rising, Assassin's Creed, and Bioshock. However, since I started playing Bioware's games I'm having trouble playing anything else. Even when I was a girl in RPGs like Oblivion, it didn't even seem to register with the system. I felt more genderless than female. I seriously wanted a game like Mass Effect my whole life. There's no needing to be saved by a man at some point, there's no senseless female emotions at random points, no pointless fanservice. It's just female Shepard kicking ass and saving the galaxy. I connected with that character more than any character I had played the past 20 years before that.
It's hard to go back to the same old stuff after that, so I spend a lot of time just waiting for the next Bioware game to come out. I'll still play action adventure games and the occasional FPS but I won't play an RPG without a female option anymore.
Funny thing is, I almost didn't buy Mass Effect because I thought it was the same old generic space hero guy game.
Ah yes, the fact they never used femshep for any advertisement for Mass Effect was a big mistake in my opinion. I really hope to see more lady Hawke as DAII draw closer to release.
It's one of the big reasons I beg for more marketing of the female counterpart. I literally almost missed playing the best game of my life.
Sadly, it seems they want an "offical" face to Hawke same as with Shepard.
#216
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 06:58
While I can understand the reasoning, that really is too bad - the Witcher is an excellent game, with a well developed character and a good story.
When playing games like Oblivion, where your gender seemed mostly unimportant, I tend to do a lot of imaginary dialogue in my head (or out loud since there isn't usually anyone else around when I play) between my character and those around her, to compensate for this lack of interaction. (I did this a lot in many NWN Mods, and Guild Wars as well) It isn't quite the same as having programmed conversations, but it can still add a lot of fun and depth to my playthroughs. (actually, I still do this in games like ME and DA:O, when I feel like a conversation should be occurring between my party, but isn't ... I am a shameless rp addict)
#217
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:22
#218
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:36
#219
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:51
#220
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 07:57
Harid wrote...
Don't like playing female characters, 'cept for "choose your own protagonist" games like the ones Bioware makes. They are almost always written horribly, almost always appeal to the lowest common denominator, and the best written females in gaming like The Boss, you rarely control. And if Konami was ever to make a game based on The Boss I would expect crushing disappointment anyway.
You've obviously never played The Longest Journey or Beyond Good And Evil, some of my fav. protagonists are female.
#221
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 08:02
#222
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 08:02
Naitaka wrote...
Harid wrote...
Don't like playing female characters, 'cept for "choose your own protagonist" games like the ones Bioware makes. They are almost always written horribly, almost always appeal to the lowest common denominator, and the best written females in gaming like The Boss, you rarely control. And if Konami was ever to make a game based on The Boss I would expect crushing disappointment anyway.
You've obviously never played The Longest Journey or Beyond Good And Evil, some of my fav. protagonists are female.
Nope, and nope, but exceptions don't prove the rule.
I also have a problem with waif-fu, which is 99% of the time, included with female protagonists, and it's just. . .something I can't ignore. It insults my intelligence.
Modifié par Harid, 15 janvier 2011 - 08:05 .
#223
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 11:29
Harid wrote...
Naitaka wrote...
Harid wrote...
Don't like playing female characters, 'cept for "choose your own protagonist" games like the ones Bioware makes. They are almost always written horribly, almost always appeal to the lowest common denominator, and the best written females in gaming like The Boss, you rarely control. And if Konami was ever to make a game based on The Boss I would expect crushing disappointment anyway.
You've obviously never played The Longest Journey or Beyond Good And Evil, some of my fav. protagonists are female.
Nope, and nope, but exceptions don't prove the rule.
I also have a problem with waif-fu, which is 99% of the time, included with female protagonists, and it's just. . .something I can't ignore. It insults my intelligence.
If you have any love for point-and-click adventure games, I warmly recommend The Longest Journey. April Ryan was a fun character.
I don't quite as warmly recommend the sequel, Dreamfall: The Longest Journey. Gameplay-wise it was a terrible attempt at making the series more console-friendly, but at least the story is still good.
#224
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 11:42
#225
Posté 15 janvier 2011 - 05:50
elearon1 wrote...
-snip of awesome-
If better story, deeper character interaction and more choice are the result of the gaming industry becoming "more gay", I'd say it is about damn time.
Kudos to you!
Now that I think about it, though ... have there really been any games
out lately that required you to play as a defined female character? Any
roleplaying games ... ever?
Septerra core: Legacy of the creator was an awesome rpg with rich characters and amazing plot and your character was Maya, a badass gal with a rifle. Seriously, it's still one of my favourite games ever.





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