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[Minxie]

shantisands wrote...

Russalka wrote...

Suggestions for casual clothes and the issues people had with companion outfits also attracted Sims-spam.

I
would love casual clothes!! It always irked me to see my plate wearers
standing in front of the fire in full plate, including the helmet.  
Inventing the oven? not sure... Casual clothes is a good idea! - when in camp/base for sure! Making something logical is not necessarily sims, surely?  Anyway, I support that idea!  

Agreed! 
That's why I like the show Legend of the Seeker, campy as it is. They
are on the road constantly so they don't trudge around in heavy armor
all day (and the women have really cool outfits). They just make up for really low armor class by... not getting hit. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wink.png[/smilie] (They only get injured by swords and arrows when it's convenient to the plot.)

p.s.
All this talk about the Sims is making me wanna go play it. (and hey,
you're not stuck in the same place all the time - you can go on world
adventures exploring tombs and getting attacked by mummies! teehee [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie])

[Never]

I think it's a great option, if it were at the end of the game. It would be lame to pop one out just to hand it over to your mom to take care of. And obviously it'd be lame to take care of it in-game

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

I think the game will be too short to do something like prolonged Baldur's Gate style romances. Either that, or Bioware just does't have a balls to do anything more serious in romances than teen jokes and chest hair.

[AmyBA]

David Gaider wrote...

Actually, even if I had the budget I'm not sure I would include players with young children.

Why? Because I don't want to potentially force the player into the position of being a bad parent. The only way to do it justice would be to make it a major plot element-- not to make it a throwaway item in Aerie's backpack. I'm not really interested in that.

Thaaank youuu!

This is essentially part of what I was trying to point out to people.

Everyone keeps trying to say it is such a minor thing, no big deal, totally optional. But having a kid is not a minor thing, it IS a big deal, it does have a huge impact, and if you add it in it can't really be optional because of that impact. Then we are forced into a scenario a lot of people really do not want to deal with in a game.

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

I think the game will be
too short to do something like prolonged Baldur's Gate style romances.
Either that, or Bioware just does't have a balls to do anything more
serious in romances than teen jokes and chest hair.

How does having children automatically make the romance more serious? So relationships without children aren't serious? Are you saying the jokes will suddenly be different and better? We would just end up with jokes about poopy diapers and spit-up and all the other parental woe cliches.

What teen makes jokes about chest again anyway, every teen I know goes "ewwww" when you talk about chest hair.

Modifié par AmyBA, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:47 .

[Loc'n'lol]

David Gaider wrote...

Riiiight. Couldn't possibly be any other reason.

Alistair, is that you ?

[AmyBA]

crimzontearz wrote...

well...I foresee a pregnancy in ME3 (Shepard said she wants Liarta to give him lots of blue children.....that one line was awfully cute)

as for DA2, well it's a 10 years story so, why not? I'd love to see Isabela as a mommy

Why do people keep bringing up what Shep said to Liara?

I think people are forgetting that Liara is still a good 150-200 years from entering the right stage to start having children. The codex says she can do so earlier if shes melded with many partners more often than normal, which I doubt she has.

And I am also pretty sure Shep was joking and being silly, given the reaction Liara has to it. "Oh" punches Shep in the shoulder. " You say these things"' shakes her head while laughing.

Modifié par AmyBA, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:38 .

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

AmyBA

"So relationships without children aren't serious? "



Well.. yeah. A prolonged realtionship with one partner is usually about having children and living mature life and everything. In Bioware games (exept BG) it's usually is't so complicated than "getting that chick in bed", basically like a dating sim. Anyway, you pointed that by yourself better than me - it's a huge impact to the plot, that is, so no kids for you :3

[AmyBA]

DamnThoseDisplayNames wrote...

AmyBA
"So relationships without children aren't serious? "

Well.. yeah. A prolonged realtionship with one partner is usually about having children and living mature life and everything. In Bioware games (exept BG) it's usually is't so complicated than "getting that chick in bed", basically like a dating sim. Anyway, you pointed that by yourself better than me - it's a huge impact to the plot, that is, so no kids for you :3

I guess I need to tell my aunt and uncle who have been married 30 years, happily and with no children, that they should have called it quits a long time ago.

I guess me and my husband who have been together for 10+ years need to end it now, since we also plan to not have children.

Modifié par AmyBA, 12 janvier 2011 - 10:03 .

[silentassassin264]

DarthCaine wrote...

Figured as much. They don't wanna spend budget for something optional so they can rush the game for release.

...Why did I come into this thread?

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

AmyBA

Yep, the "childfree" cultists must push the pedal and just run from the cliff in that car. Ar-ar.

Honestly, I hope you understood what I meant by opposing "getting that chick into bed" and "living mature life".

[NinjaCupcake]

ummm...im just gonna be honest and say i would have no interest in having a child/getting pregnant in a game like this

but hey thats just my opinion....

[ErichHartmann]

Edit: nevermind.  Must resist responding to trolling.

Modifié par ErichHartmann, 12 janvier 2011 - 11:21 .

[Brockololly]

David Gaider wrote...
The only way to do it justice would be to make it a major plot element-- not to make it a throwaway item in Aerie's backpack.

Like, you know, an Old God Baby?

[VampireCommando]

If you wanna have a child in a fantasy game then go play fable, he'll I'm not even sure that classes as a fantasy game any more. But for the love of god why would you want in in DA, DA is a mature, violent and some times nasty fantasy game, why bring 'happy families' into it and ruin it, not to mention it's just plain creepy.

[Saibh]

David Gaider wrote...
...not to make it a throwaway item in Aerie's backpack. I'm not really interested in that.

Come on. Come on. We've all had things we'd rather not mention in our backpacks from time to time. And Hawke's backpack is one of those bags of holdings that are gigantic on the inside--he could keep a whole village of babies!

Modifié par Saibh, 12 janvier 2011 - 11:21 .

[Miri1984]

Just don't put the baby in Anders' backpack with Ser Pounce unless he's been well fed.

[Korva]

Strongly against. It's partly because I don't care for children at all, and partly because I think that creating a new life is too big and important a responsibility to handle it as a 5-minute sidequest with the option to conveniently dropkick the rugrat into some third person's lap so we can boast we're a parent but don't have to be arsed with the actual parenting. Aerie's pregnancy was awful, like in bad fanfic or "I want attention for something right now!" RP: it had no consequences, caused no obligations, imposed no restrictions.



Procreation and parenting, handled "well", would require a hell of a lot more resources than any three romances put together IMO which would turn it into a major plot point that is either obligatory or as good as, since people skipping it would miss out on whole lot of content with no compensation. Either way would leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

[Piecake]

VampireCommando wrote...

If you wanna have a child in a fantasy game then go play fable, he'll I'm not even sure that classes as a fantasy game any more. But for the love of god why would you want in in DA, DA is a mature, violent and some times nasty fantasy game, why bring 'happy families' into it and ruin it, not to mention it's just plain creepy.

Who says it has to be the 'happy family' dynamic?  DA2 is set well before the Enlightenment and Rousseau, so the views on children and child rearing are quite different.  Heck, in general, most parents in the middle ages did not get too attached to their kids, especially early on, because the high infant mortality rates. 

Anyway, I am not really for or against it, but I think it would be quite hard to pull it off well.  It just seems like it would make the game lose focus.  I find your claim that child rearing and children ruin mature, dark fantasies amusing, since A Song of Ice and Fire has a whole lot of the little buggers running around

[Druss99]

VampireCommando wrote...

If you wanna have a child in a fantasy game then go play fable, he'll I'm not even sure that classes as a fantasy game any more. But for the love of god why would you want in in DA, DA is a mature, violent and some times nasty fantasy game, why bring 'happy families' into it and ruin it, not to mention it's just plain creepy.

You pretty much stole what I was going to say, you monster .

But yeah I just don't see what this could possibly add to the game or why anyone would want it.

[Tinxa]

Korva wrote...

Strongly against. It's partly because I don't care for children at all, and partly because I think that creating a new life is too big and important a responsibility to handle it as a 5-minute sidequest with the option to conveniently dropkick the rugrat into some third person's lap so we can boast we're a parent but don't have to be arsed with the actual parenting. Aerie's pregnancy was awful, like in bad fanfic or "I want attention for something right now!" RP: it had no consequences, caused no obligations, imposed no restrictions.

Procreation and parenting, handled "well", would require a hell of a lot more resources than any three romances put together IMO which would turn it into a major plot point that is either obligatory or as good as, since people skipping it would miss out on whole lot of content with no compensation. Either way would leave a very bad taste in my mouth.

This.
As much as I love bioware games a plot (or subplot) revolving around some child I don't care about as a player but I must as a character just wouldn't draw me in. I just imagine all the NPCs and the LI telling me how adorable my child is only to be faced with something like Oren. That would be just... ugh

[UndercoverDoctor]

This isn't the damn sims.

[pizoxuat]

Yeah, with my own real toddler running around causing mayhem and general cuteness, I would have a hard time justifying leaving a pixel kid with the nanny while running off and risking death. So I am fine with pregnancy and child-rearing being left out.

[GameBoyish]

Incredibly rare half-dwarves? Ohyes

[iamthespark]

Interesting topic. Since I'm playing a "hero" in the game, I wouldn't like them to become pregnant, but if there was an epilogue, I wouldn't mind it saying that my character settled down and had raised a family (if of course my character was very much "in love" with an LI).



Although, I think it would add a lot to the game if an LI was romanced, pregnant *and* in real trouble. That would make one want to save her *even more*. Like (note: I romanced Liara in ME and played Shadow Broker) if Liara was pregnant in ME3 with FemShep's kid, and I had to make the choice between saving Earth OR saving Liara and FemShep's future offspring............. Man, that decision would really crush me.

[marshalleck]

Kids and their hormones these days. First it's "will this character be a romance?" now it's "can we maek babby!?"

Ugh.

Bioware, if you're still reading this thread, which I doubt: please for the love of all that is good in this world, toss a bucket of ice water on this rampaging segment of your fanbase and make a game without any romances. Going cold turkey for a while will do them a world of good. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 13 janvier 2011 - 03:11 .