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[Emzamination]

Aradace wrote...

Emzamination wrote...

I love it when 2 men or women are ready to kill each other over me 

Me too lol.  But only because after they're done I can tell them that they're both S.O.L.

Fighting to save the world is one thing, fighting over a single person's affections, I just let em go at it and then break the bad news to all parties involved afterward lol. 

LOFL!!!!!! Thats Pimp 

[Alixen]

Honestly, not doing it for the reason of 'letting/forcing the player be a bad parent' sounds worse to me THAN blaming it on budget and schedules. It implies too much.

Budget and timetables? Not much can be done about that. However, there are many ways to get around it. Assumedly by the time your character could even end up pregnant and having a baby (the second timeskip perhaps, if i'm right that the first is getting used to Kirkwall and before Fenris/Anders) you have enough funds to hire a nanny. Or even 'Mother' takign care of the child. (It'd hardly be a 'lone wolf and cub' situation. Though that would be indeed awesome. =D)

Is that considered being a bad parent these days? It worked for hundreds/thousands of years, and still does for parents with busy schedules. Interacting with a baby/child could be as simple of having a loving/funny/distant response to the child in a way that isn't negative, and limiting visible interactions with the child.

My thought is that unless Lady Hawk (and the female NPCs) have taken a nasty stomach wound that would affect natural functions, it's fairly limiting to the very 'family-exploring' story that is supposedly being told to avoid the most basic and fundamental aspect of having a serious relationship between the ages of 20ish-30ish.

I'm a fairly big fan of Dragon Age, a very big fan of Bioware (since KOTOR, and went back to play all the earlier stuff), and also buy all the books for Mass Effect/Dragon Age aswell as Art Books, Tabletop RPG stuff, ect, ect. Just trying to make it clear i'm not just a 'forum complainer'.

However, as such I feel no need to shy away from admitting that i'm very disapointed in this choice, as it seems the official word is 'No.' To me it comes across as dodging something that could have added a great deal to the game, and something I feel will be glaring unles sit is at LEAST adressed by the characters in-game.

Perhaps Anders cannot have children due to being a Grey Warden; and Fenris because of what was done to him? That at least sounds better than 'it doesn't fit' or 'bad parenting' because both sound hollow. People often find themselves extremely busy and yet still having to juggle it with raising a family; even in todays world with our advanced contraceptive methods and medical procedures.

Still looking forwards to DA2 and am anticipating another killer Bioware experiance. Still not going to shy away from expressing an opinion though.

Modifié par Alixen, 28 février 2011 - 02:50 .

[Biefstukfriet]

The combination of a game spanning ten years and pregnacy is awesome! Your choices could affect the pregnancy, it either succeeding or ending prematurely based on the decisions you make. Which could really deepen the relation with the character you decided to 'mate' with. It would also make the main character feel tethered to the world.

And ofcource, influencing your child's youth via dialogue and actions would be incredibly cool. It's like an organic version of player housing! ;-)

Modifié par Biefstukfriet, 28 février 2011 - 02:57 .

[Russalka]

Do click on the Bioware tag of this ancient topic.

[PinkShoes]

every time i see this thread i shiver. I dont want that sort of touture in real life let alone a game. Also your a fighter, a champion, you cant take a couple years off to have a kid for no reason.

[Alixen]

Hm, was about to make a comment about only on a forum that moves this fast is '3 hours' ancient... then went back a page and saw 28 days.

Still, better to dredge up an old topic with a Bioware response thhan making another new one, eh?

[Biefstukfriet]

PinkShoes wrote...

every time i see this thread i shiver. I dont want that sort of touture in real life let alone a game. Also your a fighter, a champion, you cant take a couple years off to have a kid for no reason.

You're also a human, made out of flesh and blood. 'Accidents' happen.


Anyway, it's to bad there won't be a pregancy in-game. But it was nice fantasizing about it while it lasted. (that sounds totally wrong...).

[Ignus Burns]

Don't worry. If Dragon Age keep devolving, it will probably have become a pure dating sim by the time of Dragon Age 4 (it's what the audience wants, right?). The kid will even do something awesome every time you press a button!

[Elvoria]

David Gaider wrote...

Okay, to make this short:

Could we do player pregnancy? Sure.

Did we? No. Child-rearing is not one of the adventures you will embark upon.

And "Thank the Maker" for that!

[limoen]

This isn't a Molyneux game. If you want a life sim go play the Sims or something.

[Elsariel]

limoen wrote...

This isn't a Molyneux game. If you want a life sim go play the Sims or something.

Haven't heard that one before... nooooooo....

[CitizenThom]

Pregnancy, child-rearing, and similar character developments would be an interesting addition to game that's occuring over a long span of years. Similarly, if Hawke is the Wilt Chamberlain of Kirkwall, it'd be interesting to have the illegitimate sons and daughters confronting Hawke late in the game too.

I thought the last couple of hours of Red Dead Redemption were amazing, simply because of the family dynamic that's revealed. So many game stories involve saving the princess, it's interesting when a game actually takes the time to show you that the princess was in fact worth saving.

[Gabriel S.]

limoen wrote...

This isn't a Molyneux game. If you want a life sim go play the Sims or something.

That is an egregious and cheap argument.

[Copyright Theft]

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

limoen wrote...

This isn't a Molyneux game. If you want a life sim go play the Sims or something.

That is an egregious and cheap argument.

Admit it, you just wanted to use the word 'egregious' didn't you?

[Killjoy Cutter]

While I can see this having a place in another game of another sort, it's definately not something I want to see in DA or ME sort of game, and most certainly not something that should be forced on the player in some way.

It's good to see the devs stating outright that it's not part of DA2.

Modifié par Killjoy Cutter, 28 février 2011 - 06:07 .

[Wotannanow]

wulfsturm wrote...

In Baldur's Gate 2 - a BioWare RPG, you could get one of your L.I.'s (I can't remember her name for the life of me, it was one of the elves) pregnant by the expansion. I thought it was pretty heavy stuff at the time. I think BioWare could do it in a game again, but it would really depend on the material and context at the time. It has to make sense, I feel for it to make the largest impact.

Yes, and in the epilogue, you could also get a son with Viconia -- the drow -- or if you had chosen Aerie, the avariel elf, you'd have a second child in the elilogue, if you stuck with her.

[Lacan2]

Doubt there will be a pregnancy. Skyrim will have children though, so maybe a more common thing...

Modifié par Lacan2, 28 février 2011 - 06:19 .

[Gabriel S.]

Lacan2 wrote...

Doubt there will be a pregnancy. Skyrim will have children though, so maybe a more common thing...

It's already been confirmed that there isn't.

[limoen]

Gabriel Stelinski wrote...

limoen wrote...

This isn't a Molyneux game. If you want a life sim go play the Sims or something.

That is an egregious and cheap argument.

What a fancy word you used there! Honestly though, that was indeed a cheap argument. Nevertheless, I think people want too much from this game. Incorporating pregnancies, interacting with children etc. would have taken time and resources away from developing the core game and story.

[CitizenThom]

(maybe in an expansion then?)

In some part, I agree that it shouldn't be a top priority. One can also say that this game is pure fantasy.

But in any game that implies sex, there's opportunity for humor and sentimentality alike if there were more consequence tied to those actions. Think of unrequited lovers showing up out of the woodwork in Kirkwall... "Remember me? Of course you don't!" etc. etc. It doesn't actually require anything be added to the game mechanics, it just requires additional scripting. And the possibilities in the hands of Bioware... are probably worth the additional scripting.

[JamesX]

wulfsturm wrote...

In Baldur's Gate 2 - a BioWare RPG, you could get one of your L.I.'s (I can't remember her name for the life of me, it was one of the elves) pregnant by the expansion. I thought it was pretty heavy stuff at the time. I think BioWare could do it in a game again, but it would really depend on the material and context at the time. It has to make sense, I feel for it to make the largest impact.

IIRC only the Ariel Elf can be preganant.  No one else can.  They even explained that as long as the child is inside her their life force is interwined.  So if she die and be raised from the dead, so will the child.  :innocent: