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[Thunderfox]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

ThunderfoxF wrote...

Sorry if you're married to one ordering system. Thats your problem not Bioware/EAs

I hope you're not talking to me.

I'm talking to everyone

[Kentor]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

I kind of agree: it's not a particularly nice move on the part of Bioware. I can understand pre-order bonuses, and launch day DLC, but cutting Steam out of the picture with no explanation at all doesn't inspire confidence. It's not going to affect my purchasing of Bioware products yet, but it's something to keep in mind.

[akeso]

This was a seriously messed up process that was pulled off by EA. Releasing DA2 for preorder on steam the very day after the signature edition expires while offering it exclusively via their own digital distribution system is one thing. But offering it also for preorder via brick and mortar retail points simply to the fact that EA refuses to compete with STEAM in terms of services provided and instead opts to simply black-ball anyone who despises their little "rental system" (forcing people to re-buy a licence after 1 year?)

Honestly, all this has done is convince me to wait for the "ulta-super deluxe edition" that will be out in 6 months and will be 50-75% off via steam. Because these antics that EA is looking to pull has left with the desire to get as much as possible from them while paying as little as they can; they are interesting in doing the same to us it seems.

Oh, and modding DA:O on steam was just fine.

Modifié par akeso, 12 janvier 2011 - 06:49 .

[Thunderfox]

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

Why?  I mean, I read your reasoning, I just don't understand it.

Sure, some people wouldn't have known about the SE if they only looked at Steam, I guess, but is that Bioware's fault?  Or even EA's?

This is like saying that, because Best Buy didn't have the game in stock, I was prevented from buying it.  I could have gone to Gamestop.

This. If a customer can't research a game and their options, they get no sympathy from me.

[Kentor]

BTCentral wrote...

No.

You missed out on the free companion DLC, four bonus items and the digital soundtrack.

I missed out on nothing because pre-orders are free and I can cancel my signature edition whenever I choose.

[TonyTheBossDanza123]

Kentor wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

I kind of agree: it's not a particularly nice move on the part of Bioware. I can understand pre-order bonuses, and launch day DLC, but cutting Steam out of the picture with no explanation at all doesn't inspire confidence. It's not going to affect my purchasing of Bioware products yet, but it's something to keep in mind.

I think the explanation is obvious. The fact that they refused to tell us why the SE wouldn't be on Steam, combined with the release of the regular edition, at the same price, on Steam, the day after the SE expired, is all the explanation that's needed.

This was a pure cash grab on Bioware/EA's part.

[TonyTheBossDanza123]

ThunderfoxF wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

Why?  I mean, I read your reasoning, I just don't understand it.

Sure, some people wouldn't have known about the SE if they only looked at Steam, I guess, but is that Bioware's fault?  Or even EA's?

This is like saying that, because Best Buy didn't have the game in stock, I was prevented from buying it.  I could have gone to Gamestop.

This. If a customer can't research a game and their options, they get no sympathy from me.

I'm glad you're so elitist.

[Thunderfox]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

Kentor wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

I kind of agree: it's not a particularly nice move on the part of Bioware. I can understand pre-order bonuses, and launch day DLC, but cutting Steam out of the picture with no explanation at all doesn't inspire confidence. It's not going to affect my purchasing of Bioware products yet, but it's something to keep in mind.

I think the explanation is obvious. The fact that they refused to tell us why the SE wouldn't be on Steam, combined with the release of the regular edition, at the same price, on Steam, the day after the SE expired, is all the explanation that's needed.

This was a pure cash grab on Bioware/EA's part.

Or maybe Valve was being dickish. It wouldn't be the first time. Like with their complete destain for the PS3, until they decided that hey Portal 2 on PS3 means more money...

Modifié par ThunderfoxF, 12 janvier 2011 - 06:52 .

[Mercedes-Benz]

I have a question Chris, will all of the things that the people who pre-ordered the Signuture Edition got for free, be available for purchase as DLC by those of us who pre-ordered the standard edition through Steam?

[BurtonSD]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

ThunderfoxF wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

Why?  I mean, I read your reasoning, I just don't understand it.

Sure, some people wouldn't have known about the SE if they only looked at Steam, I guess, but is that Bioware's fault?  Or even EA's?

This is like saying that, because Best Buy didn't have the game in stock, I was prevented from buying it.  I could have gone to Gamestop.

This. If a customer can't research a game and their options, they get no sympathy from me.

I'm glad you're so elitist.

How so? People had options to get the SE one way or another, just not on Steam. Deal.

Why is this thread even open? Should've been locked after the OP.

[TJPags]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

ThunderfoxF wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

Why?  I mean, I read your reasoning, I just don't understand it.

Sure, some people wouldn't have known about the SE if they only looked at Steam, I guess, but is that Bioware's fault?  Or even EA's?

This is like saying that, because Best Buy didn't have the game in stock, I was prevented from buying it.  I could have gone to Gamestop.

This. If a customer can't research a game and their options, they get no sympathy from me.

I'm glad you're so elitist.

Actually, I think your the one being elitist.

There were several other avenues to purchase a digital download version.  There were many options to purchase actual disc copies.

The fact that people got so hung up on the SE not being available through Steam baffled me, and the fact that people are now somehow acting like they were prevented from buying the SE because it wasn't on Steam now baffles me.

[TonyTheBossDanza123]

ThunderfoxF wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

Kentor wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

I kind of agree: it's not a particularly nice move on the part of Bioware. I can understand pre-order bonuses, and launch day DLC, but cutting Steam out of the picture with no explanation at all doesn't inspire confidence. It's not going to affect my purchasing of Bioware products yet, but it's something to keep in mind.

I think the explanation is obvious. The fact that they refused to tell us why the SE wouldn't be on Steam, combined with the release of the regular edition, at the same price, on Steam, the day after the SE expired, is all the explanation that's needed.

This was a pure cash grab on Bioware/EA's part.

Or maybe Valve was being dickish. It wouldn't be the first time. Like with their complete destain for the PS3, until they decided that hey Portal 2 on PS3 means more money...

Valve being dickish? I think you're confused.

Their complete disdain for PS3:

This was because of the high price point of the PS3, and they're lack of treating the consumer respectively.

Portal 2 on PS3:

The reason they did this is because they learned that Microsoft is a pile of ****. Forcing them to charge money for DLC. That's why TF2 has no updates on the Xbox. That's why L4D updates cost money. Because M$ forces them to charge money for stuff they give away on the PC for free.

That's why they're releasing on the PS3, because Sony has been open and better with them now ever since whats his face left, the old president of Sony Games. Bah I forget his name, but ever since then they've been much better to their consumers (though lately...).

Anway, there's no evidence of Valve ever being "Dickish". If anything, they're the last mainstream developer who treats the consumers with respect.

[EclipticOlive54]

ThunderfoxF wrote...

Sorry if you're married to one ordering system. Thats your problem not Bioware/EAs

True:mellow:

[William Bell]

finally! now i can pre-purchase it

[Maria Caliban]

The Black Emporium sounds awesome.

[sfcrafael]

will the Day One DLC Coupons work with the steam version?
because if they, I could try getting a signature box and then sell it, and keep my DA2 on Steam

if not, I guess I will have to wait till next christimas sale..

Modifié par sfcrafael, 12 janvier 2011 - 06:58 .

[TonyTheBossDanza123]

[quote]TJPags wrote...

[quote]TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

[quote]ThunderfoxF wrote...

[quote]TJPags wrote...

[quote]TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

[quote]Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.[/quote]

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

[/quote]

Why?  I mean, I read your reasoning, I just don't understand it.

Sure, some people wouldn't have known about the SE if they only looked at Steam, I guess, but is that Bioware's fault?  Or even EA's?

This is like saying that, because Best Buy didn't have the game in stock, I was prevented from buying it.  I could have gone to Gamestop.
[/quote]

This. If a customer can't research a game and their options, they get no sympathy from me.

[/quote]

I'm glad you're so elitist.

[/quote]

Actually, I think your the one being elitist.

There were several other avenues to purchase a digital download version.  There were many options to purchase actual disc copies.

The fact that people got so hung up on the SE not being available through Steam baffled me, and the fact that people are now somehow acting like they were prevented from buying the SE because it wasn't on Steam now baffles me.[/quote]
[quote]BurtonSD wrote...

[quote]TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

[quote]ThunderfoxF wrote...

[quote]TJPags wrote...

[quote]TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...

[quote]Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.[/quote]

It's not "kind of" a jerk move, it's a blatant jerk move. I called this a few days ago in the thread where we were emailing PR. What's sad is they're going to get away with it.

[/quote]

Why?  I mean, I read your reasoning, I just don't understand it.

Sure, some people wouldn't have known about the SE if they only looked at Steam, I guess, but is that Bioware's fault?  Or even EA's?

This is like saying that, because Best Buy didn't have the game in stock, I was prevented from buying it.  I could have gone to Gamestop.
[/quote]

This. If a customer can't research a game and their options, they get no sympathy from me.

[/quote]

I'm glad you're so elitist.

[/quote]

How so? People had options to get the SE one way or another, just not on Steam. Deal.

Why is this thread even open? Should've been locked after the OP.

[/quote]


Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

[Youmu]

TJPags wrote...

There were several other avenues to purchase a digital download version.

Several other like Impulse, GamersGate, D2D? Oh wait, region locked, region locked, and yes, region locked!

The only other viable route was EAstore.. which isn't viable for just being godawful EAstore.

[Chris Priestly]

Tony, and others, the deal with Steam was not available in time for the Signature Edition offer. I know this will not prevent you from thinking this was a big conspiracy, but the deal was not finalized in time for the Signature Edition. However, we are pleased to now have a deal in place with Steam for Steam users such as yourself.  You did have the option of pre-ordering through a physical retailer or otehr digital retailers. If you chose not to, that was your decision. As such, comments accusing us of "ripping off" people are not welcome here and will be considered spam with all implied penalties associated with posting spam on these forums.

As for The Black Emporium, Fadeshear and the Lion of Orlais, the Black Emporium is available for all new copies of DAII, so that does include Steam. Fadeshear and Lion of Orlais are also available on Steam as long as you pre-order. They are only available as pre-order items and will not be available once the game launches, but they are available on Steam until teh game ships.

[sfcrafael]

the DLC code for the Signature Edition will be redeemable through here or not?

If thats the case, there is still the possibility to get the DLC and all for the Steam version..

[TJPags]

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...
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Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

Okay, fine.

But if people heard about the SE, they could easily have found a place to purchase it.  If all they do is look at Steam to see what's being released, well, again, that's like walking into Best Buy to see what games are available, and complaining you didn't know about something because it was out of stock at BestBuy.

I'm sorry, but the information is readily available from a number of sources to learn that the game exists.

[akeso]

Edit: Post removed.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:25 .