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[TonyTheBossDanza123]

Edit: Post removed.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:03 .

[lv12medic]

Heh... I love how it shows up the day after the Signature Edition offer ends. Oh well.



I actually thought about this a bit and I'm wondering if it actually has more to do with Steam than EA. I don't think I've seen anything on Steam that ever gives bonuses for pre-ordering by a certain date. I wonder if the way Steam is set up, it can even support such a feature (as in how the Signature Edition was set up).

[TJPags]

Youmu wrote...

TJPags wrote...

There were several other avenues to purchase a digital download version.

Several other like Impulse, GamersGate, D2D? Oh wait, region locked, region locked, and yes, region locked!

The only other viable route was EAstore.. which isn't viable for just being godawful EAstore.

That may be true - as I don't pruchase games in this fashion, I will take your word for it.

However, again, you dismiss the EA store as "godawful EAstore" but it remained an option, as did purchasing an actual disc version through Amazon or other sources.

Steam was not the only source for the game, or for the SE.  It may be the preferred choice, but that - to me - is like saying I prefer to use a Visa card, you don't take Visa, so you're evil.  Just doesn't compute to me.

[sfcrafael]

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...


Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

Okay, fine.

But if people heard about the SE, they could easily have found a place to purchase it.  If all they do is look at Steam to see what's being released, well, again, that's like walking into Best Buy to see what games are available, and complaining you didn't know about something because it was out of stock at BestBuy.

I'm sorry, but the information is readily available from a number of sources to learn that the game exists.

you know, there are people who live in places where there aren't game stores to preorder from and where other digital stores that would offer the deal are region locked, Steam being the exception

so, because of that, I'm not allowed to get the SE?

[Addai]

Zerbin wrote...

The way I see it, they were trying to lessen the amount of market share that Steam would get of this game; give some other venues a chance. They probably also make a larger profit with these other partners too. I really wish that it didn't feel like I was being punished for holding out for the Steam version though. That's...kind of a jerk move.

Yeah, I saw this coming too.  I'd go look for my post where I said "the day after the SE goes off sale it'll show up on Steam," but I don't care to look.

I guess it was a pull for the EA Store to get more digital business.  Plus since Steam is the largest pipeline, plenty of people will never have heard about the SE and will end up paying top dollar plus buying the DLC extra.

It sucks.  It's just business, but it still sucks.

[abbe6100]

lv12medic wrote...
I actually thought about this a bit and I'm wondering if it actually has more to do with Steam than EA. I don't think I've seen anything on Steam that ever gives bonuses for pre-ordering by a certain date. I wonder if the way Steam is set up, it can even support such a feature (as in how the Signature Edition was set up).

Anything that have a pre-order bonus?
Even if there would be a problem, they would just create a "new version" in the store and see which people ordered which, just like the deluxe editions, when the specific date is gone, they remove that version.

[MJF JD]

sfcrafael wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...


Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

Okay, fine.

But if people heard about the SE, they could easily have found a place to purchase it.  If all they do is look at Steam to see what's being released, well, again, that's like walking into Best Buy to see what games are available, and complaining you didn't know about something because it was out of stock at BestBuy.

I'm sorry, but the information is readily available from a number of sources to learn that the game exists.

you know, there are people who live in places where there aren't game stores to preorder from and where other digital stores that would offer the deal are region locked, Steam being the exception

so, because of that, I'm not allowed to get the SE?

where?

[sfcrafael]

MJF JD wrote...

sfcrafael wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...


Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

Okay, fine.

But if people heard about the SE, they could easily have found a place to purchase it.  If all they do is look at Steam to see what's being released, well, again, that's like walking into Best Buy to see what games are available, and complaining you didn't know about something because it was out of stock at BestBuy.

I'm sorry, but the information is readily available from a number of sources to learn that the game exists.

you know, there are people who live in places where there aren't game stores to preorder from and where other digital stores that would offer the deal are region locked, Steam being the exception

so, because of that, I'm not allowed to get the SE?

where?

Brazil here
but I would assume Latin America as a whole didnt get this offer

[MJF JD]

sfcrafael wrote...

MJF JD wrote...

sfcrafael wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...


Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

Okay, fine.

But if people heard about the SE, they could easily have found a place to purchase it.  If all they do is look at Steam to see what's being released, well, again, that's like walking into Best Buy to see what games are available, and complaining you didn't know about something because it was out of stock at BestBuy.

I'm sorry, but the information is readily available from a number of sources to learn that the game exists.

you know, there are people who live in places where there aren't game stores to preorder from and where other digital stores that would offer the deal are region locked, Steam being the exception

so, because of that, I'm not allowed to get the SE?

where?

Brazil here
but I would assume Latin America as a whole didnt get this offer

well if that is true then i would say you at least have a valid complaint.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Edit: Post removed.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:15 .

[Mercedes-Benz]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Tony, and others, the deal with Steam was not available in time for the Signature Edition offer. I know this will not prevent you from thinking this was a big conspiracy, but the deal was not finalized in time for the Signature Edition. However, we are pleased to now have a deal in place with Steam for Steam users such as yourself.  You did have the option of pre-ordering through a physical retailer or otehr digital retailers. If you chose not to, that was your decision. As such, comments accusing us of "ripping off" people are not welcome here and will be considered spam with all implied penalties associated with posting spam on these forums.

As for The Black Emporium, Fadeshear and the Lion of Orlais, the Black Emporium is available for all new copies of DAII, so that does include Steam. Fadeshear and Lion of Orlais are also available on Steam as long as you pre-order. They are only available as pre-order items and will not be available once the game launches, but they are available on Steam until teh game ships.

You didn't answer my question on whether all of the things that were available for free in the signiture edition be available for purchase as dlc for us Steam users?

[TJPags]

sfcrafael wrote...

TJPags wrote...

TonyTheBossDanza123 wrote...


Read my posts. I'm not fighting for myself, I'm fighting for the people who aren't in the know. I know, it's absurd in this day and age. Someone who is CARING about other people? My god, I should have a movie and biography deal by now.

Okay, fine.

But if people heard about the SE, they could easily have found a place to purchase it.  If all they do is look at Steam to see what's being released, well, again, that's like walking into Best Buy to see what games are available, and complaining you didn't know about something because it was out of stock at BestBuy.

I'm sorry, but the information is readily available from a number of sources to learn that the game exists.

you know, there are people who live in places where there aren't game stores to preorder from and where other digital stores that would offer the deal are region locked, Steam being the exception

so, because of that, I'm not allowed to get the SE?

I suppose a lack of actual physical stores may be possible, but was the EAstore locked?  Again, I honestly don't know, as I don't purchase this way, and don't live in such an area.

However, 2 things- first, I'm not sure this can really be laid at the feet of Bioware, as an attempt to screw people.

Second, since this discussion (not you, but in general) seems to be running in circles, I'm going to pretty much bow out at this point.

[Addai]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Tony, and others, the deal with Steam was not available in time for the Signature Edition offer.

How about extending the offer??

It doesn't hurt to ask.

[Chris Priestly]

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

You didn't answer my question on whether all of the things that were available for free in the signiture edition be available for purchase as dlc for us Steam users?

Sorry. To the best of my knowledge, eeh Exiled Prince and the Soundtrack will be available for Steam users as DLC.

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:53 .

[Sylvius the Mad]

Edit: Post removed AGAIN. 

Modifié par Chris Priestly, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:23 .

[Youmu]

TJPags wrote...

However, again, you dismiss the EA store as "godawful EAstore" but it remained an option, as did purchasing an actual disc version through Amazon or other sources.

Steam was not the only source for the game, or for the SE.  It may be the preferred choice, but that - to me - is like saying I prefer to use a Visa card, you don't take Visa, so you're evil.  Just doesn't compute to me.

EAstore never remained an option, nor it never really was one. Yes, I could buy from them if you forced me at gunpoint, but it is not something I will do voluntarily. Maybe once their overhaul the entire thing not to be machine-translated monstrosity that is force-fed down my throat without an option for a simple language select. And of course, their pricepoint was just unacceptable.

And digital is, for me, pretty much the only source nowadays. No need for DVD cases and hassling with ships. I haven't gotten a physical game for a year+ now, it has always been from Impulse/GG/Steam, with overwhelming majority being at Steam due to region locking and their bonkers deals.

[Sylvius the Mad]

akeso wrote...

With steam you get:

• Actual ownership of your game

If that were true, you could refuse patches and even rollback patches you didn't like (even if you had to reinstall to do it).

But you can't.  Steam places a huge number of restrictions on how you use the game you supposedly own.

[BTCentral]

akeso wrote...

No no no, post not removed.
[snipped]

Probably not the brightest of ideas to put your post back after removed by the mods.

akeso wrote...

With steam you get:

• Actual ownership of your game

Not true, Steam could remove access to the game at any time - you might want to re-read their ToS.

Modifié par BTCentral, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:24 .

[magicwins]

This.... really is disappointing.



It may just be good business, but it's upsetting to see all those Steam fanboys/girls taken advantage of. I really do not know why they love it so much, but this move was clearly executed with them in mind.



Sigh....

[AngelicMachinery]

xnoxiousx wrote...

Thanks for nothing. Now you force me to buy a game 2 times i already bought it d2d and now i got buy steam.

Wait, why are you buying it twice when it would just be cheaper to buy the DLC?  I'm really confused...  

[Mercedes-Benz]

Chris Priestly wrote...

Mercedes-Benz wrote...

You didn't answer my question on whether all of the things that were available for free in the signiture edition be available for purchase as dlc for us Steam users?

Sorry. To the best of my knowledge, teh Exiled Price and the Soundtrack will be available for Steam users as DLC.

Thank you . What about the Might of Sten and all of those other items that were available for those who pre-ordered the SE? Them as well?

Modifié par Mercedes-Benz, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:35 .

[abbe6100]

magicwins wrote...

This.... really is disappointing.

It may just be good business, but it's upsetting to see all those Steam fanboys/girls taken advantage of. I really do not know why they love it so much, but this move was clearly executed with them in mind.

Sigh....

Why? Because they did digital sales RIGHT for the longest of times, theres a reason they are #1.

[abbe6100]

Addai67 wrote...

Chris Priestly wrote...

Tony, and others, the deal with Steam was not available in time for the Signature Edition offer.

How about extending the offer??

It doesn't hurt to ask.

+1
How about extending the offer? You know, just to show that it was just a "random happenstance".

[Mercedes-Benz]

EDIT: double post

Modifié par Mercedes-Benz, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:28 .

[magicwins]

Edit: Misunderstood post, ignore

Modifié par magicwins, 12 janvier 2011 - 07:29 .