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[Lyssistr]

Kravinoth wrote...

Rimfrost wrote...

I have a boot camp win7 but I want to buy the mac version to send BioWare and EA a signal. I have no plans to switch back to windows and I strongly prefer not having to reboot to win7.

I agree. If we, Mac owners, continue buying games for windows, games for Mac will never be taken seriously.
We must support games for Mac! (even if they are Cider…)

 My experience with Cider'd games so far tells me they're not worth the gamble. Some are good ports but many are simply horrible. Also support for Cider games is quite often horrible.

 I will prefer to buy a game on a mac, if it's well suited for the platform. However, I won't pay for something which may not be well-supported or even worse barely playable.

[Matt Ca]

Meh, decided to buy the Mac version anyway (parents owe me some money ), lets just hope all the hype TransGaming are doing lives up to expectations.



Either way, I can just use the key to play the windows version.

[SammyJB17]

As long as it runs, I'm getting it. Love me some Dragon Age! I don't really care if it's a port or in-house production, because Origins was a port and ran beautifully on my Macbook Pro 15".

[Rimfrost]

Well I would be surprised if it runs worse then DA:O and DA:O runs great on my mac.



DA:O is a stable game on both platforms yet I have had crashes on both Vista and OS-X. I would say 10% more crashes on OS-X but that might just be a fluke.



I will pre-order the Mac version from GameTree on Monday. I'm still hoping they allows us something like SteamPlay so that we can download the PC version as well. I'm holding out hope they will announce something like that.



That said if the mac version is as stable as DA:O and DA:A was then I'm fine with it.

[Lyssistr]

SammyJB17 wrote...

As long as it runs, I'm getting it. Love me some Dragon Age! I don't really care if it's a port or in-house production, because Origins was a port and ran beautifully on my Macbook Pro 15".

DAO on a mac run fine indeed BUT it was barely supported and iirc also was more expensive

[SammyJB17]

Lyssistr wrote...

SammyJB17 wrote...

As long as it runs, I'm getting it. Love me some Dragon Age! I don't really care if it's a port or in-house production, because Origins was a port and ran beautifully on my Macbook Pro 15".

DAO on a mac run fine indeed BUT it was barely supported and iirc also was more expensive

It was no more expensive than the PC version, and it might have actually been cheaper!  I don't understand what you mean by barely supported however. DLC coming late? Customer service?

[Lyssistr]

SammyJB17 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

SammyJB17 wrote...

As long as it runs, I'm getting it. Love me some Dragon Age! I don't really care if it's a port or in-house production, because Origins was a port and ran beautifully on my Macbook Pro 15".

DAO on a mac run fine indeed BUT it was barely supported and iirc also was more expensive

It was no more expensive than the PC version, and it might have actually been cheaper!  I don't understand what you mean by barely supported however. DLC coming late? Customer service?

a few months after release, DAO was about 15 pounds @ amazon, the mac version was like 3 times that, it was more expensive, much more expensive, not cheaper.

 Not only DLC (not too keen on DLC to care much about that), the expansion, Awakenings, was supported too late as well.

Modifié par Lyssistr, 05 février 2011 - 06:58 .

[SammyJB17]

I paid the same price for Origins that was the regular price (49.99 I believe) Awakening was $29.99, the same as Awakening for any other platform. DLC was same price. I haven't check recently, and maybe it didn't go down, but it didn't affect me much ( still would be an issue for others). I got everything almost immediately after it was available though.



On a related topic, DA 2 for Mac= Awesome.

[Lyssistr]

SammyJB17 wrote...

I paid the same price for Origins that was the regular price (49.99 I believe) Awakening was $29.99, the same as Awakening for any other platform. DLC was same price. I haven't check recently, and maybe it didn't go down, but it didn't affect me much ( still would be an issue for others). I got everything almost immediately after it was available though.

On a related topic, DA 2 for Mac= Awesome.

@ release they were about the same, some months later, DAO was very cheap on amazon and mac price was still high. Mind that I'm comparing amazon UK prices for PC to UK prices for the mac version.

 Awakening was supported for mac so late that I didn't check the price, it was supported *after* I got it for PC @ 12 pounds, so I doubt mac version sold for less than that.

 I do want to see games on my mac, I prefer it as a platform. However I'm interested only if they are properly supported and reasonably priced, like it happens e.g. with Blizzard games.

 I hope DAII mac version works out differently.

Modifié par Lyssistr, 05 février 2011 - 07:16 .

[Kravinoth]

About this argument I have to agree with both sides. We need to support games on Mac, even if they are Cider, just like SammyJB17 said. And, I also understand Lyssistr’s side. I played DA:O and DA:A in both platforms, in the same Mac, and Windows version is so much better (what is tempting, when you are buying a new game…).
But… I don’t know, I can be speaking bull****… But I think this difference of quality, in the same hardware, comes from MS-DirectX… OSX doesn’t have something like that (HEY APPLE!!)…
So, even if they make a native version for OSX, it wouldn’t be so much better.
(If I’m wrong, please, don’t mind in correcting me)

(And, since I’m now very active in this topic, I have to say: I’m brazilian, I can handle myself speaking english, but writing is not my specialty xD so please, forgive me for my grammar and spelling errors)

Modifié par Kravinoth, 05 février 2011 - 08:41 .

[Mister Mida]

OP, when you chose to buy a Mac, you also chose for the big chance that you'll play games like DA2 later than Windows users or not at all.

[Lyssistr]

Mister Mida wrote...

OP, when you chose to buy a Mac, you also chose for the big chance that you'll play games like DA2 later than Windows users or not at all.

 This is why he made a thread demonstrating interest from a mac user. It's up to him to say why he did it, but when I created a couple of similar threads in the past (for DAII and other games), I wanted my threads to serve as kind reminders to the devs.

 Also, I can't agree with the de fecto statement that he'll play his stuff later, this is not a law of nature, this is what happened with DAO. blizzard games are all released concurrently for mac & windows, are patched concurrently and are updated concurrently.

 The chance is not a big one, yes, but macs today are not macs of 1996. The userbase is larger, there's Steam for mac now, an application store by apple etc.

Modifié par Lyssistr, 05 février 2011 - 09:01 .

[Lyssistr]

Kravinoth wrote...

About this argument I have to agree with both sides. We need to support games on Mac, even if they are Cider, just like SammyJB17 said. And, I also understand Lyssistr’s side. I played DA:O and DA:A in both platforms, in the same Mac, and Windows version is so much better (what is tempting, when you are buying a new game…).
But… I don’t know, I can be speaking bull****… But I think this difference of quality, in the same hardware, comes from MS-DirectX… OSX doesn’t have something like that (HEY APPLE!!)…
So, even if they make a native version for OSX, it wouldn’t be so much better.
(If I’m wrong, please, don’t mind in correcting me)

(And, since I’m now very active in this topic, I have to say: I’m brazilian, I can handle myself speaking english, but writing is not my specialty xD so please, forgive me for my grammar and spelling errors)

The thing is I love macs as a deployment platform but I have Windows installed anyhow because I run Visual Studio and the Windows side of MS-Office (some apps still need DDE). Windows is still king for some types of developement (not for all though) .I do this through VMWare so I don't have to reboot, but Windows is there.

If the quality of the product, the quality of support and pricing aren't comparable, I'll reboot in Windows. I don't think that asking for consistent support and consistent pricing as time goes by are unreasonable things. After all, when you buy something, you pay for support.

 If they do release a common DVD for PC & Mac installation, that will solve the pricing bit tho, when DAII is cheap @ amazon, it will be cheap for both platforms.

 On the DirectX bit, I don't know much about graphics, but recreating DirectX for OS X, would realistically require collaboration with Microsoft and since Microsoft doesn't seem to get much by such a move, unfortunately, I doubt it will happen anytime soon. In the distant future, who knows, anything is possible.

Modifié par Lyssistr, 05 février 2011 - 09:03 .

[ViSeiRa]

Good news everyone, the game will be released on Mac at March 8th just like the PC, just saw the pre-order page at GameTree.

Modifié par ViSeirA, 05 février 2011 - 09:10 .

[Kravinoth]

If both versions will be released at same the time, I want to believe the same will happen to DLCs!

[ViSeiRa]

I think it'll, they already have Fadeshear and the other pre-order bonuses, great job Bioware!

[Lyssistr]

Kravinoth wrote...

If both versions will be released at same the time, I want to believe the same will happen to DLCs!

If they do that, it would be great and tbh they need to do that, to prove they've switched attitude regarding their mac products.

[SammyJB17]

Lyssistr wrote...

Kravinoth wrote...

If both versions will be released at same the time, I want to believe the same will happen to DLCs!

If they do that, it would be great and tbh they need to do that, to prove they've switched attitude regarding their mac products.

EA or Bioware? Because neither Mass Effect games were on Mac.

[Lyssistr]

SammyJB17 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Kravinoth wrote...

If both versions will be released at same the time, I want to believe the same will happen to DLCs!

If they do that, it would be great and tbh they need to do that, to prove they've switched attitude regarding their mac products.

EA or Bioware? Because neither Mass Effect games were on Mac.

 Don't know who decides on that (Bio/EA) nor should I need to know, when I pay, all I need to know is that support must be there on time.

 Nor do I have a clue why they decided to release DA series on mac and not ME series. Can only make some guesses but that's not really knowing.

Modifié par Lyssistr, 05 février 2011 - 09:49 .

[SammyJB17]

Lyssistr wrote...

SammyJB17 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Kravinoth wrote...

If both versions will be released at same the time, I want to believe the same will happen to DLCs!

If they do that, it would be great and tbh they need to do that, to prove they've switched attitude regarding their mac products.

EA or Bioware? Because neither Mass Effect games were on Mac.

 Don't know who decides on that (Bio/EA) nor should I need to know, when I pay, all I need to know is that support must be there on time.

 Nor do I have a clue why they decided to release DA series on mac and not ME series. Can only make some guesses but that's not really knowing.

Regardless, this is a good step towards equality for Macs, being released on the same day. Maybe other games will start to do it too 

[Kravinoth]

Lyssistr wrote...

SammyJB17 wrote...

Lyssistr wrote...

Kravinoth wrote...

If both versions will be released at same the time, I want to believe the same will happen to DLCs!

If they do that, it would be great and tbh they need to do that, to prove they've switched attitude regarding their mac products.

EA or Bioware? Because neither Mass Effect games were on Mac.

 Don't know who decides on that (Bio/EA) nor should I need to know, when I pay, all I need to know is that support must be there on time.

 Nor do I have a clue why they decided to release DA series on mac and not ME series. Can only make some guesses but that's not really knowing.

It seems that it’s Bioware who decides. Because when I sent an email to EA asking if they will sell Mac version at Brazilian Store, they answered me they didn’t know because Bioware hadn’t give any updates to them.
See it by yourselves:

Thank you for contacting Electronic Arts Customer Support.

Well, I cannot give any official statement about this as we don't receive any updates from Bioware. That includes possibility or approx. release date for Mac. I'm sorry for unable to provide you any further information about the Mac version.

Modifié par Kravinoth, 05 février 2011 - 10:04 .

[carabaldo75]

Is this version going to be a native mac version or a crappy porting like  last DAO for mac? I bought the mac version of DAO and was really diasappointed to see how much slower and chunkier it got compared to the pc version on the same hardware (bootcamp & yes, bittorrent. holy **** how many times should I buy the same game??)

Modifié par carabaldo75, 05 février 2011 - 10:55 .

[Lyssistr]

carabaldo75 wrote...

Is this version going to be a native mac version or a crappy porting like  last DAO for mac? I bought the mac version of DAO and was really diasappointed to see how much slower and chunkier it got compared to the pc version on the same hardware (bootcamp & yes, bittorrent. holy **** how many times should I buy the same game??)

It's on transgaming's website, so all evidence suggests it's a cider port, not a native version .

[SammyJB17]

Lyssistr wrote...

carabaldo75 wrote...

Is this version going to be a native mac version or a crappy porting like  last DAO for mac? I bought the mac version of DAO and was really diasappointed to see how much slower and chunkier it got compared to the pc version on the same hardware (bootcamp & yes, bittorrent. holy **** how many times should I buy the same game??)

It's on transgaming's website, so all evidence suggests it's a cider port, not a native version .

It ran fine for me... though it is true I never tried it on another platform. Hopefully DA II will run more smoothly for you, and just saying torrents=naughty

[Lyssistr]

to be fair on this, they allowed you to use your mac code to download the PC version from EA.



So there was no need for using torrents to get the windows version, when support on the mac side was looking grim they made this option available