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[siebenhens]

If it is a port, then its a good thing that they are releasing it the SAME day as the original game...



Further reading into this makes me believe that most EA games for Mac use a cider "wrapper" to translate the game coding to what an Apple computer can understand. So, as I understand it, this is slowly becoming a standard in most gaming companies. The SIMS 3, even uses a Cider wrapper...if you play that game. But the cider is just a translator, so this should work pretty well

[Kravinoth]

OMG! I never had accessed TransGaming website! I just find out that all great games I played on Mac are cider ports! Prince of Persia, WarHammer, EVE…
I didn’t know…
…

But, if you think well, it makes a lot sense: why great game companies (like EA, Bioware, Activision,…) would care bringing the whole game again to another platform, if a port “works well enough”?
It is less work, and they still make a good money.

I’m disappointed now… My hopes for the day when games will actually be made for Macs, just shrank.

(this post was really tough to write…)

Modifié par Kravinoth, 06 février 2011 - 02:45 .

[SammyJB17]

Kravinoth wrote...

OMG! I never had accessed TransGaming website! I just find out that all great games I played on Mac are cider ports! Prince of Persia, WarHammer, EVE…
I didn’t know…
…

But, if you think well, it makes a lot sense: why great game companies (like EA, Bioware, Activision,…) would care bringing the whole game again to another platform, if a port “works well enough”?
It is less work, and they still make a good money.

I’m disappointed now… My hopes for the day when games will actually be made for Macs, just shrank.

(this post was really tough to write…)

I think the Mac suffers from the same disorder PS3 games suffered from: PC was there first, and since PC had an established format and fans, it was easier to just ignore Macs for most games. The PS3 caught up with the XBOX 360 now, and I hope the same comes for Mac. Though the Mac Appstore will definately help

[Lyssistr]

Kravinoth wrote...

OMG! I never had accessed TransGaming website! I just find out that all great games I played on Mac are cider ports! Prince of Persia, WarHammer, EVE…
I didn’t know…
…

But, if you think well, it makes a lot sense: why great game companies (like EA, Bioware, Activision,…) would care bringing the whole game again to another platform, if a port “works well enough”?
It is less work, and they still make a good money.

I’m disappointed now… My hopes for the day when games will actually be made for Macs, just shrank.

(this post was really tough to write…)

They could use engines that support both DirectX and OpenGL, like Blizzard/Activision does, then their games would almost auto-port to macs and they'd be native (thus having better performance).

 Some Cider ports have worked for me without hicups, like Sims 3 or Spore but others like PoP and WarHammer had a performance hit (lower fps) when I played them. Others like HMMV had memory leaks which were quite frustrating to be honest.

 Some Cider ports are almost flawless but some others have problems.

[siebenhens]

Kravinoth wrote...

OMG! I never had accessed TransGaming website! I just find out that all great games I played on Mac are cider ports! Prince of Persia, WarHammer, EVE…
I didn’t know…
…

But, if you think well, it makes a lot sense: why great game companies (like EA, Bioware, Activision,…) would care bringing the whole game again to another platform, if a port “works well enough”?
It is less work, and they still make a good money.

I’m disappointed now… My hopes for the day when games will actually be made for Macs, just shrank.

(this post was really tough to write…)

sorry we had to break it to ya like this.
If it makes you feel any better, I just found out too.

Modifié par siebenhens, 06 février 2011 - 03:33 .

[Mister Mida]

Lyssistr wrote...

Mister Mida wrote...

OP, when you chose to buy a Mac, you also chose for the big chance that you'll play games like DA2 later than Windows users or not at all.

 This is why he made a thread demonstrating interest from a mac user. It's up to him to say why he did it, but when I created a couple of similar threads in the past (for DAII and other games), I wanted my threads to serve as kind reminders to the devs.

 Also, I can't agree with the de fecto statement that he'll play his stuff later, this is not a law of nature, this is what happened with DAO. blizzard games are all released concurrently for mac & windows, are patched concurrently and are updated concurrently.

 The chance is not a big one, yes, but macs today are not macs of 1996. The userbase is larger, there's Steam for mac now, an application store by apple etc.

I never made a de fecto statement. I said 'big chance'. And the userbase of Mac may be bigger these days, it's still way less than ten percent on the market, while all the Windows versions combined have a share of over seventy percent. So from a business point of view, making a Mac version may not be profitable, considering that not every Mac user is gonna buy it.

[Fernando Melo]

We are planning to release the Mac version at same time as PC.



Also, we are trying for PC/Mac on the retail box (like Sims3). Will confirm as soon as we can.



F

[SammyJB17]

Fernando Melo wrote...

We are planning to release the Mac version at same time as PC.

Also, we are trying for PC/Mac on the retail box (like Sims3). Will confirm as soon as we can.

F

This is awesome! However, I wish this was announced earlier. My main platform is Mac and if I had known the disc was both PC and Mac I would have gotten the signature edition . Ah well, at least I don't have a delay for playing it!

[Rimfrost]

Fernando Melo wrote...

We are planning to release the Mac version at same time as PC.

Also, we are trying for PC/Mac on the retail box (like Sims3). Will confirm as soon as we can.

F

Fernando: Thanks for the reply! And I have a of appreciation for you going through with this! I think the main open question for us mac heads are around DLC, will all DLC also be available for Mac (at release date)? 

I was hoping you could confirm this with a simple 'Yes" or at least say something along the line "Yes, this is our goal but we cannot make promises that 100% of them will be available at launch" or "No, Not all DLC will be available at launch but our goal is to port them later.  Basically it would be great to know what the internal goals are for the Mac platform. I know that in DA:O the DLC where released a bit later but they where all ported.

[SammyJB17]

Rimfrost wrote...

Fernando Melo wrote...

We are planning to release the Mac version at same time as PC.

Also, we are trying for PC/Mac on the retail box (like Sims3). Will confirm as soon as we can.

F

Fernando: Thanks for the reply! And I have a of appreciation for you going through with this! I think the main open question for us mac heads are around DLC, will all DLC also be available for Mac (at release date)? 

I was hoping you could confirm this with a simple 'Yes" or at least say something along the line "Yes, this is our goal but we cannot make promises that 100% of them will be available at launch" or "No, Not all DLC will be available at launch but our goal is to port them later.  Basically it would be great to know what the internal goals are for the Mac platform. I know that in DA:O the DLC where released a bit later but they where all ported.

Seconded.

[Rimfrost]

double post

Modifié par Rimfrost, 06 février 2011 - 05:25 .

[SammyJB17]

Oh, and Mr. Melo, since you hope to utilize the same tech for PC and Mac, does that mean that the demo can be downloaded for Mac as well. I believe this is on topic, since it does have to do with Dragon Age 2 for Mac.

[Kravinoth]

We all knew that already, but it's good to have a confirmation.

I also got an official answer from GameTreeMac that is indeed a Cider port.

Hi "Kravinoth",



Yes it's a Cider port, most of our games as such.



Thanks for your question,



Amanda

> ---------------------

> Hi!

> For about a month, everyone was wondering if there would be a Mac

> version of DA2!

> Now you guys launched the pre-purchase, another question became

> important: this DA2 for Mac is a native version or a cider port?

> And since neither BioWare answers this question for us, you guys are

> our only hope.

>

> Sincerely,

> "Kravinoth"

Now what I really wanna know is if DA2 for Mac will be released on Steam... because it is my main game platform and if I purchase DA2 in GTM and, after this, DA2 be released in Steam, I'm gonna be mad, really really mad!

[SammyJB17]

Kravinoth wrote...

We all knew that already, but it's good to have a confirmation.
I also got an official answer from GameTreeMac that is indeed a Cider port.

Hi "Kravinoth",

Yes it's a Cider port, most of our games as such.

Thanks for your question,

Amanda
> ---------------------
> Hi!
> For about a month, everyone was wondering if there would be a Mac
> version of DA2!
> Now you guys launched the pre-purchase, another question became
> important: this DA2 for Mac is a native version or a cider port?
> And since neither BioWare answers this question for us, you guys are
> our only hope.
>
> Sincerely,
> "Kravinoth"

Now what I really wanna know is if DA2 for Mac will be released on Steam... because it is my main game platform and if I purchase DA2 in GTM and, after this, DA2 be released in Steam, I'm gonna be mad, really really mad!

I highly doubt it will be released on Steam. However, if Mr.Melo's goal is acheived, it is possible that the game could be downloaded for both Mac and PC from the same page. We can only hope:whistle:

[Kravinoth]

Yes, I don't think so too, since Origins for Mac wasn't released on Steam too.

And if this goal become true, all my problems will be solved



(Oh, it's "released ON Steam". Thanks, I didn't know which one to use: "in", "on" or "at" =P)

[Rimfrost]

So they are mocing the cider port forwards so probably the core of their engine is still the same. I appreciate that they are releasing it on the same day and perhaps on the same disc.



At the moment I'm a little conflicted of what to buy. Wait for the disc to see if it's dual platform or buy the gametree download?



Not sure why I'm still considering playing under win7. Such a pain to reboot into it and out of it each time. Decisions, decisions.



Still very exited about this game!

[SammyJB17]

I'd love it if it was combo Mac/PC. I would be mighty pissed as well, as I could have got the Sig edition from the PC version to use on my Mac.

[siebenhens]

btw, just preordered from gametree mac. all current preorder bonuses, and then that demo on the 22nd...pretty cool

[SammyJB17]

siebenhens wrote...

btw, just preordered from gametree mac. all current preorder bonuses, and then that demo on the 22nd...pretty cool

So is it actually for Mac as well( the demo)? And I assume you don't include Exiled Prince in preorder bonuses. 

Modifié par SammyJB17, 09 février 2011 - 01:09 .

[siebenhens]

@ Sammy7B17



i have no idea, but I am hoping so. It would be nice, but we shall see, won't we?



And, no Exiled Prince preorder. Going to get that when the game is released. Annoyed that I never knew sooner so I could order it. But Se la vie

[carabaldo75]

Didn't know that I could use the mac code to legally download the pc version... did it work even if I bought my mac DAO on gametree online?

Great news this mac/pc announcement! I'll buy it for sure in that case

[SammyJB17]

 http://www.macworld....dragonage2.html

....SO I COULD HAVE BOUGHT THE PC VERSION AND GOT THE SIGNATURE EDITION?!?!?!??!?!?!?!?!?:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(:(

I have a a feeling Evil Chris Priestly was behind this...

[BSBNess]

I am so happy because I did get pre-order the signature edition on PC.

[SammyJB17]

BSBNess wrote...

I am so happy because I did get pre-order the signature edition on PC.

Could I borrow it? I want to....see the Signature edition box art 

[BSBNess]

SammyJB17 wrote...

BSBNess wrote...

I am so happy because I did get pre-order the signature edition on PC.

Could I borrow it? I want to....see the Signature edition box art 

Lol I'll send you a pic of it