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#26
James2912

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Co-op campaign. One person is shepard and makes the decisions the other is a guest even then it would be messy and a waste of space. uggh

Modifié par James2912, 12 janvier 2011 - 08:38 .


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TRISTAN WERBE

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Multiplayer firefights are what we need be garrus or anyone even your Shepard

And 3 person co op

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Sesshomaru47 wrote...

I think it would be a waste of time and money to tack on MP.


Completely agree.  Instead, they should use the money they would have allocated to MP and put it towards signing Milla as one of the new VA's for ME3.  That would be acceptable.

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Yeah, the more I think about co-op with the extra players controlling the Squad... bleh. I agree that it would probably be clunky at best, and uglier than Murderface at worst.



Any kind of non-co-op mode, that is to say any kind of versus mode, would also have to eliminate tactical pause in order to work, which would seemingly take some of the "Mass Effect"-ness out, unless they are somehow eliminating it from standard gameplay in ME3 and going completely real time... which is too frightening to actually think about.

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outlaworacle wrote...

Yeah, the more I think about co-op with the extra players controlling the Squad... bleh. I agree that it would probably be clunky at best, and uglier than Murderface at worst.

Any kind of non-co-op mode, that is to say any kind of versus mode, would also have to eliminate tactical pause in order to work, which would seemingly take some of the "Mass Effect"-ness out, unless they are somehow eliminating it from standard gameplay in ME3 and going completely real time... which is too frightening to actually think about.


Yeah its one thing if they give us crappy multiplayer its another if they make the singleplayer crappy in order to have a viable multiplayer that is just unforgivable!

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Well, I don't think multiplayer would fit the trilogy. But if it has to be put in: perhaps we could have co-op that is not really co-op. I'm thinking missions like the suicide mission where the entire squad is present but working for different goals. Have someone play as Shepard with one team, someone else play as Garrus/Miranda leading another team. Of course, not all missions are like that.



Perhaps the other player could take on the chosen character completely--even when they're on the Normandy and such. I know Bioware can't afford to make complete Shepard-style multi-choice dialogues for all characters, but if they could--imagine the possibilities! The whole ship could be filled with life, Garrus and Tali bonding in the mess hall, Samara and Thane discussing their different principles, and so on. As many as ten people could play together, all of them gaining access to unique dialogues and all kinds of new information about their chosen character that's not accessible even to Shepard. This would motivate people to play as different characters.



...Okay, I think my imagination ran rampant with me. :) But still, I personally would love to see this.

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NO.

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Oh god James don't go there please. If the single player is WORSE than the multiplayer then I think that ME3 will be doomed as one of the biggest disappointments of all time.

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IF multiplayer were to be implemented, I would vehemently detest a button function that makes your avatar roll or dodge gunfire like the one in Gears of War. Also, no sticky grenades. God, no sticky grenades.

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if they wanted to make people want multiplayer all they have to do is let the second person control a squad member, their big selling point could be play as tali and garrus

Modifié par thatguy212, 12 janvier 2011 - 09:08 .


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A feature that turns the disc into a nuclear drive core that will allow me to blow my self up like the Virmire sacrifice.

See, I gave you a idea while complaining! In all honesty I can't bring myself to answer this. When I hear these words every inch of my body reflexes and implodes.

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I want a Gears of War 2 kinda MP. Alliance vs cerberus vs Collectors/Husks.

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Am I the only one who is sick of hearing about multiplayer?



No multiplayer please Bioware, im sure I have said it like 100 times in about 100 multiplayer topics now.

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Funkcase wrote...

Am I the only one who is sick of hearing about multiplayer?

No multiplayer please Bioware, im sure I have said it like 100 times in about 100 multiplayer topics now.


Stick to the topic

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outlaworacle wrote...

It is alright. MP is quite the hot-button topic, for reasons I simultaneously understand but remain baffled by. No name-calling yet so I think we're doing pretty good.

I just mainly see a lot of "screw multi-player in the multi-butt" sentiment going around, and that's good feedback as well, but it just occured to me that if there IS going to multi-player, we might want to let Bioware know what the fans think would be good instances of MP versus crappy ways to implement it.


So that's why you posted Milla with her 'multi-pass'... :whistle:

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A good MP implementation for Mass3 would be not to implement it at all and instead make a new Mass game focused and developed for MP specifically after we have our awesome, kick ass, gratifying SP experience played over and over and over.

And then over and over and over.

Oh, and did I mention over and over and over?



In such a hypothetical, I guess some sort of co-op experience would be nice. It'd be like Resident Evil 5, except, actually worth the money.

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DarkLord_PT wrote...

A good MP implementation for Mass3 would be not to implement it at all and instead make a new Mass game focused and developed for MP specifically after we have our awesome, kick ass, gratifying SP experience played over and over and over.
And then over and over and over.
Oh, and did I mention over and over and over?

In such a hypothetical, I guess some sort of co-op experience would be nice. It'd be like Resident Evil 5, except, actually worth the money.

:crying: RE used to be my fav series before ME came along and RE5 struck the nail in the coffin. I wouldn't mind co-op as long as the partner could only interact in combat and had no effect on achievements or storyline.

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SalsaDMA wrote...

outlaworacle wrote...

It is alright. MP is quite the hot-button topic, for reasons I simultaneously understand but remain baffled by. No name-calling yet so I think we're doing pretty good.

I just mainly see a lot of "screw multi-player in the multi-butt" sentiment going around, and that's good feedback as well, but it just occured to me that if there IS going to multi-player, we might want to let Bioware know what the fans think would be good instances of MP versus crappy ways to implement it.


So that's why you posted Milla with her 'multi-pass'... :whistle:


Milla has the multipass... to my heart. Image IPB And another organ that I won't mention Image IPB I would definitely like to multi-tap that a....h, ok, even I have to stop here. But, seriously. Milla, if you're reading this: ha ha, you're such a nerd!!

Back on topic, I know I called this thread Multi-Player Optimism but even this discussion makes the possibility seem kind of bleak. Of course, Bioware could always surprise us... but ME3 would be their first game with multi-player, wouldn't it? Not counting KOTORO (which sounds like a Moral Kombat boss).

Modifié par outlaworacle, 12 janvier 2011 - 10:04 .


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RinpocheSchnozberry

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WHOA. I read "optimism" as "orgasm." That changed the thread.

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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

WHOA. I read "optimism" as "orgasm." That changed the thread.


Yeah I think you can only do those on the Wii.

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outlaworacle wrote...
Milla has the multipass... to my heart. Image IPB And another organ that I won't mention Image IPB I would definitely like to multi-tap that a....h, ok, even I have to stop here. But, seriously. Milla, if you're reading this: ha ha, you're such a nerd!!

Back on topic, I know I called this thread Multi-Player Optimism but even this discussion makes the possibility seem kind of bleak. Of course, Bioware could always surprise us... but ME3 would be their first game with multi-player, wouldn't it? Not counting KOTORO (which sounds like a Moral Kombat boss).


They did Baldur's gate series and Neverwinter nights too. RPG series with both single player and multiplayer capabilities and awesome stories (in my opinion). All of those titles got good reviews and were generally hailed as landmarks in computer rpgs.

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Bullets McDeath

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Ah, I had forgotten that. I even used to play BG with a kid down the street over dial-up, derp.



Now if you'll excuse me I need to run to the store for some adult diapers and denture cream.

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I think it is inevitable for multiplayer to work its way into Mass Effect 3 since nowadays it is almost required to be in a game and EA wants to make as much money of the franchise as possible.

I am not opposed to the idea but I am a bit skeptical since bioware is not know for multiplayer gaming. Perhaps the multiplayer formula seen in games like gears of war would work best for ME3.

3rd person objective based combat with simple tasks like kill all members of the other team or capture the flag. Also being able to unlock and play as famous characters within the trilogy would be a great idea.

Modifié par Razorsedge820, 12 janvier 2011 - 10:14 .


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RinpocheSchnozberry wrote...

WHOA. I read "optimism" as "orgasm." That changed the thread.


I... read that too. >.>

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outlaworacle wrote...
Back on topic, I know I called this thread Multi-Player Optimism but even this discussion makes the possibility seem kind of bleak. Of course, Bioware could always surprise us... but ME3 would be their first game with multi-player, wouldn't it? Not counting KOTORO (which sounds like a Moral Kombat boss).

It was never really going to be that optimistic given the forums history on multiplayer topics.
On the optimistic side I'll take co-op so long as I get to shoot my squadmate for not following orders.