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[DonKaran]

Gavinthelocust wrote...

Oh stop whining, us console users have to pay 60 dollars normally for any new game. Our "special editions" are usually in the 70-80 dollar range.

lol yea because our pc's are ways cheaper than consoles nowadays..

[robotnist]

while i personally dont care, those of you who do vocally defend the 60$ price tag are the ones that will bring about the 70$ price tag.



in case you havent noticed games used to be 40-50$ 10 years ago, and now with launch day DLC and inflating prices you can spend anywhere from 60-80$ and thats not including collector's ed....



dont defend the trend that will eventually have us paying WAY too much. no one could believe it when everyone announced that next gen games would be 60$, but everyone took it anyway.



PC stayed 50$. now theyre pushing PC to 60$ and very few of us are even willing to vocally disagree. pitiful.



now i understand the adage, "you get what you pay for", but unfortunately this is usually not the case with games. sometimes you do, sometimes you dont.



personally i believe that if this were true, games like baldur's gate, fallout 3, dragn age, should all cost 100$ while these 5 hour shooters that are released should be 20$...

[Eveangaline]

http://impulsedriven.com/dragonage2



cost 50 bucks here.

[Follow Me on Twitter]

Dude 60$ is the norm.



When i go out to a gamestop expecting to buy a new release game i pretty much always expect to put sixty on my debt card. PC or console.

[wulfsturm]

etherhonky wrote...

while i personally dont care, those of you who do vocally defend the 60$ price tag are the ones that will bring about the 70$ price tag.

Sigh, its not a matter of "if" its a matter of "when." As I said before, inflation.

[Schneidend]

Companies will charge whatever we are willing to pay. It's basic economics. And, clearly, those unwilling to pay are a vocal minority at best.

[Nighteye2]

OP, have you ever heard of inflation? You know, that thing that video games have been ignoring over the past 15 years?



Games cannot keep getting cheaper year over year by hanging on to a fixed price in spite of inflation...



Also, most games in Europe sell for €49,99 , so at $60 you're getting it cheap.

[KCFender]

Lord_Saulot wrote...

Tame1 wrote...



Look at "The Witcher II" -- which actually SAVES you money if you pre-order and has made an absolute promise to be a much bigger game than DA2 and to actually cater to the exclusivity of a PC market.

Do you have the reference for where they promised to make it bigger than DA2? I know they have said it will be shorter than the first Witcher, and that game took me about 30% less time than DAO.

Whether or not the game is "bigger" isn't the whole point. The Witcher 2 is a FULLY developed sequel - and by that I mean the game engine itself is not the same engine they used on the first Witcher. Everything about the game is freshly designed. So that means a whole lot of development time. And yet, they price the game fairly, and offer the same general deal no matter which vendor you go to. Surely you can see that's a much more reasonable and consumer-friendly approach to selling their game? I gladly pre-ordered it.



This game, on the other hand, is just using the same engine they made for Origins. How long did it take to make Origins compared to this sequel? It took many years longer to make Origins than this game. And yet they want to charge more for this game than they did for Origins? Why? Maybe the story is better, maybe the animations have been improved, but it still only required a percentage of the time (and therefore, a percentage of the cost) that Origins did. And yet they want to RAISE the price... {smilie} They're so cute!



I won't pay $59.99. I'm with the TC. I'll gladly wait for this to go on sale. They got some great products, but this company sucks. This business has me really skeptical of The Old Republic - a game I really want to like. But it wouldn't surprise me to see EA/BioWare peddling nickle-and-dime DLC for that crap starting on Day One. You know they're thinking of all the possibilities when it comes to that.



I might want to just steer away from all BioWare products after ME3. There are smaller companies out there that have BioWare's old passion for making great games, without all the passion over finding new ways to raise prices.

[EclipticOlive54]

Follow Me on Twitter wrote...

Dude 60$ is the norm.

When i go out to a gamestop expecting to buy a new release game i pretty much always expect to put sixty on my debt card. PC or console.

Yup 60$ is the norm:)

[KCFender]

Nighteye2 wrote...

OP, have you ever heard of inflation? You know, that thing that video games have been ignoring over the past 15 years?

Games cannot keep getting cheaper year over year by hanging on to a fixed price in spite of inflation...

Also, most games in Europe sell for €49,99 , so at $60 you're getting it cheap.

There has been close to no inflation over the past two years in NA/Canada. Certainly not such an exorbitant amount of inflation that a company needs to raise the price on a product by more than 10%, despite the product costing less than their other products to make.

[wulfsturm]

KCFender wrote...

despite the product costing less than their other products to make.

Oh? And you would know this, how?

[Morroian]

KCFender wrote...

This game, on the other hand, is just using the same engine they made for Origins. How long did it take to make Origins compared to this sequel? It took many years longer to make Origins than this game. And yet they want to charge more for this game than they did for Origins? Why?

Supply and demand, look it up.

[FreezaSama]

etherhonky wrote...

while i personally dont care, those of you who do vocally defend the 60$ price tag are the ones that will bring about the 70$ price tag.

in case you havent noticed games used to be 40-50$ 10 years ago, and now with launch day DLC and inflating prices you can spend anywhere from 60-80$ and thats not including collector's ed....

dont defend the trend that will eventually have us paying WAY too much. no one could believe it when everyone announced that next gen games would be 60$, but everyone took it anyway.

The "trend" as you put it, is a result of inflation. It happens. Though, interestingly enough, no one seems to remember that Super Nintendo games were generally $59.99 a piece. And in some rare cases, even more than that. Final Fantasy VI (released as FFIII in the US) launched at $69.99, and Chrono Trigger was released at a "horrific" $79.99. The $10 decrease when the next round of systems came around could probably be chalked up to the fact that CD's were much cheaper to produce (as well as to ship) than the cartridges earlier systems used. But things change, the economy changes, and you can't expect any pricing stucture to last forever. Either buy the game, or don't. But please don't whine about it. No one wants to hear it.

[stormhit]

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The money supply has been greatly inflated, thus reducing the value of a dollar.  Therefore, it takes more of them to buy anything.

Consumer inflation in the US has been stable over the past 10 years-  there has been no great inflation of the money supply.  It has actually been negative in the US quite recently.

That doesn't mean that compared to 50 dollars in 2000 it shouldn't be 60 now; but there's been no recent explosion of inflation.

The comparative value of the dollar that you're referencing is mostly due to other issues.

[TwistedComplex]

Bread used to cost 25 cents



What did you expect when governments keep pumping fake money into an economy?



Money get devalued and prices go up

[TwistedComplex]

stormhit13 wrote...

Sylvius the Mad wrote...

The money supply has been greatly inflated, thus reducing the value of a dollar.  Therefore, it takes more of them to buy anything.

Consumer inflation in the US has been stable over the past 10 years-  there has been no great inflation of the money supply.  It has actually been negative in the US quite recently.

That doesn't mean that compared to 50 dollars in 2000 it shouldn't be 60 now; but there's been no recent explosion of inflation.

The comparative value of the dollar that you're referencing is mostly due to other issues.

The US dollar has PLUMETTED in value in recent years. Why do you think games that cost 25 euros cost 45 dollars in the US? And the fed just printed 500 billion more dollars out of no where and put it into the economy

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:23 .

[Liablecocksman]

KCFender wrote...

Whether or not the game is "bigger" isn't the whole point. The Witcher 2 is a FULLY developed sequel - and by that I mean the game engine itself is not the same engine they used on the first Witcher. Everything about the game is freshly designed. So that means a whole lot of development time. And yet, they price the game fairly, and offer the same general deal no matter which vendor you go to. Surely you can see that's a much more reasonable and consumer-friendly approach to selling their game? I gladly pre-ordered it.

This game, on the other hand, is just using the same engine they made for Origins. How long did it take to make Origins compared to this sequel? It took many years longer to make Origins than this game. And yet they want to charge more for this game than they did for Origins? Why? Maybe the story is better, maybe the animations have been improved, but it still only required a percentage of the time (and therefore, a percentage of the cost) that Origins did. And yet they want to RAISE the price... {smilie} They're so cute!

I won't pay $59.99. I'm with the TC. I'll gladly wait for this to go on sale. They got some great products, but this company sucks. This business has me really skeptical of The Old Republic - a game I really want to like. But it wouldn't surprise me to see EA/BioWare peddling nickle-and-dime DLC for that crap starting on Day One. You know they're thinking of all the possibilities when it comes to that.

I might want to just steer away from all BioWare products after ME3. There are smaller companies out there that have BioWare's old passion for making great games, without all the passion over finding new ways to raise prices.

Well ****ing put.

You know, I'm thinking I will most likely get Dragon Age 2 on preorder sometime... But maybe I won't.

I preordered Dragon Age: Origins the minute it become available. This time was different, for exactly the reasons you list.
I'm similarly on the fence on TOR. I really want to like it.

I really have little more to add, other than a pad on a back and another "Well ****ing put".

[Ryzaki]

Oh I can't wait for console games to go up to 70 dollars just so I can laugh at the irony as some of these "it's only 10 bucks!" folks choke on their own words.

[mr_luga]

Unfortuantly, after charging 60 bucks alot on consoles, people start to see, it's okay to charge this much for everything now, and even pC gaming gets affected -.-

[Haxas]

A lot of misinformed people in this thread. $60 is not the norm for publishers in the pc gaming market, its a growing standard though that's catching on fast.



The reason console games are $60 is because of royalties and the cost of Blu Rays (atleast for PS3).



There is absolutely no reason a game is $60 on a digital download service. Hell it should be cheaper than $50 due to the lack of need to produce the disc, case, manual and shipping/packing costs. Of course Valve takes a portion of $ for each game they sell but it obviously isn't more than what publishers lose by going retail.



Yes the production costs of games has risen this gen, but DD services should offset that. The simple truth is that publishers realized PC isn't as dead a market as they thought it was, and now are milking the most they can get out of it D:.

[TwistedComplex]

Liable****sman wrote...

KCFender wrote...

Whether or not the game is "bigger" isn't the whole point. The Witcher 2 is a FULLY developed sequel - and by that I mean the game engine itself is not the same engine they used on the first Witcher. Everything about the game is freshly designed. So that means a whole lot of development time. And yet, they price the game fairly, and offer the same general deal no matter which vendor you go to. Surely you can see that's a much more reasonable and consumer-friendly approach to selling their game? I gladly pre-ordered it.

This game, on the other hand, is just using the same engine they made for Origins. How long did it take to make Origins compared to this sequel? It took many years longer to make Origins than this game. And yet they want to charge more for this game than they did for Origins? Why? Maybe the story is better, maybe the animations have been improved, but it still only required a percentage of the time (and therefore, a percentage of the cost) that Origins did. And yet they want to RAISE the price... {smilie} They're so cute!

I won't pay $59.99. I'm with the TC. I'll gladly wait for this to go on sale. They got some great products, but this company sucks. This business has me really skeptical of The Old Republic - a game I really want to like. But it wouldn't surprise me to see EA/BioWare peddling nickle-and-dime DLC for that crap starting on Day One. You know they're thinking of all the possibilities when it comes to that.

I might want to just steer away from all BioWare products after ME3. There are smaller companies out there that have BioWare's old passion for making great games, without all the passion over finding new ways to raise prices.

Well ****ing put.

You know, I'm thinking I will most likely get Dragon Age 2 on preorder sometime... But maybe I won't.

I preordered Dragon Age: Origins the minute it become available. This time was different, for exactly the reasons you list.
I'm similarly on the fence on TOR. I really want to like it.

I really have little more to add, other than a pad on a back and another "Well ****ing put".

They did the same thing with Origins. Day one DLC for people who pre-order

Same with Mass Effect 2

I really don't see a problem here. A lot of PC games are starting to cost 60 dollars (Thank you, pirates), so it's not just Bioware/EA

I'm never happy when something costs more money. But look back at the N64 when they used to cost what. 20 dollars?

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:28 .

[Meltemph]

Oh I can't wait for console games to go up to 70 dollars just so I can laugh at the irony as some of these "it's only 10 bucks!" folks choke on their own words.

Why would they choke on their words?

[Kilshrek]

Dragon Age 2 on PC = AUD $ 89 - $99 ~ 1 AUD = 0.9 USD



On the consoles the average game is $109 - $119.



Problem, $60 game?