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[Nighteye2]

KCFender wrote...

Nighteye2 wrote...
OP, have you ever heard of inflation? You know, that thing that video games have been ignoring over the past 15 years?

Games cannot keep getting cheaper year over year by hanging on to a fixed price in spite of inflation...

Also, most games in Europe sell for €49,99 , so at $60 you're getting it cheap.

There has been close to no inflation over the past two years in NA/Canada. Certainly not such an exorbitant amount of inflation that a company needs to raise the price on a product by more than 10%, despite the product costing less than their other products to make.

The last 2 years, maybe - but those years have been exceptional. What about all the years before, with 3-4% inflation annually?

Over the course of the past 15 years, prices should have almost doubled, if they kept pace with inflation. Instead they remained the same. The standard game price could have been $100 by now. Be glad it's only $60

[DamnThoseDisplayNames]

I wonder if that would hit other countries as well. In mine I payed around 16$ for Fallout New Vegas (a simple disc in a square box, like good old 1990), while it's X-box version is about 80$, me think. In Soviet Russia your PC pays you.

[KCFender]

When you see gas go from $1.50 a year to $4.00, do you think "Oh, that's inflation".



They charge $60 now because they think they can. And they're right. But I would like them to know that it's cost them at least one purchase.

[Liablecocksman]

TwistedComplex wrote...
They did the same thing with Origins. Day one DLC for people who pre-order

Same with Mass Effect 2

I really don't see a problem here. A lot of PC games are starting to cost 60 dollars (Thank you, pirates), so it's not just Bioware/EA

Indeed... And while I've certainly grown more mature and less impulse-driven, I also wager the constant price-jumping of games has had an influence on me not buying as many games as I used to. Hell, I remember I once had 4 games on preorder at one time. Those days are long gone. Now I'm casually looking forward to when a title comes out, trying to decide whether or not I should buy it, and not even whether or not I should wait for it to get cheaper with time.

The situation wasn't really the same with Origins, though. Vael will only come with the signature edition, so even if I preorder I will not get him.
Similarly, only the sword and shield will be DLC(Probably entirely unavailable until GOTY after release) and the Black Emporium will be featured in every new purchase.

In Origins, you only had the DLC to buy after you bought the game, if you bought it second hand. Shale, that is, the Stone Prisoner.

[Meltemph]

There is absolutely no reason a game is $60 on a digital download service. Hell it should be cheaper than $50 due to the lack of need to produce the disc, case, manual and shipping/packing costs.

The price "shouldn't be" anything, other then what a purchaser is willing to pay, as long as enough people will buy it... Now you personally may think it is to much, but the idea that someone knows how best everyone should be spending their money is a bit presumptuous, don't you think? I mean, what one person is willing to pay from another is how trade works.

[Addai]

Nighteye2 wrote...

OP, have you ever heard of inflation? You know, that thing that video games have been ignoring over the past 15 years?

Right, so that is why the console price hasn't gone up but the PC price has, and DA2 on PC started out selling at $50 but then went up to $60?

Products have price points.  If companies can get away by pushing them up, especially by giving you less for your money (as they are also doing with DA2), then they're going to do it.  A couple games pushed the price point up and still sold, so now more game makers are going to try to do the same.  So it's not just "10 bucks."  It's giving EA a market signal that will affect other PC game prices, too.

If you don't care or you're on console anyway, why are you even posting in this thread?

[AntiBonk]

Impulse is selling it for 49$, that is where I pre-ordered my copy of the signature edition.

[TJPags]

Meltemph wrote...

Oh I can't wait for console games to go up to 70 dollars just so I can laugh at the irony as some of these "it's only 10 bucks!" folks choke on their own words.

Why would they choke on their words?

Ehh, if console games go to $70, people will complain also.  And you know what?  People will still buy them, and then everyone will charge $70, and that will be the new norm.

Really - do you people expect prices of things to remain constant forever?

[TwistedComplex]

Kilshrek wrote...

Dragon Age 2 on PC = AUD $ 89 - $99 ~ 1 AUD = 0.9 USD

On the consoles the average game is $109 - $119.

Problem, $60 game?

[Meltemph]

Right, so that is why the console price hasn't gone up but the PC price has, and DA2 on PC started out selling at $50 but then went up to $60?

It hasn't gone up because the companies obviously feel it would hurt them more then it would help... I mean, why else would they not charge more, other then for that reasons?

[Thunderfox]

*Looks at all the Places DA2 is at or near the top of the best sellers list*

I honestly don`t think EA/BioWare really cares about a couple of lost people, who think 60 dollars, less now that canada is above par, is too much

[Sharuko]

Consumers decide what happens at the end. If you don't like the price point wait for it to drop, it will eventually. If you can't wait, you buy it at the current price point. Looks like EA is going the Activision route.

[Meltemph]

Ehh, if console games go to $70, people will complain also. And you know what? People will still buy them, and then everyone will charge $70, and that will be the new norm.

That was sorta my point and I agree with you. It isn't to much and people won't "choke" on it as long as they are buying it. Grumble or be happy all the way to the purchase, at the end of the day how you were feeling when you made the purchase really doesn't matter.

Modifié par Meltemph, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:37 .

[TJPags]

KCFender wrote...

When you see gas go from $1.50 a year to $4.00, do you think "Oh, that's inflation".

They charge $60 now because they think they can. And they're right. But I would like them to know that it's cost them at least one purchase.

Actually, I think it's inflation, taxes, and costs associated with restrictions on drilling locations.  Oh, and the fact that most oil comes from overseas.  Oh, and the fact that gas and oil companies are trying to make as large a profit as they can.

Does it bother me?  Sure.  Is there anything I can do about it?  Other than vote a certain way in elections, no.

[Mecha Tengu]

nah bro PC games are free

[TwistedComplex]

Addai67 wrote...

Nighteye2 wrote...

OP, have you ever heard of inflation? You know, that thing that video games have been ignoring over the past 15 years?

Right, so that is why the console price hasn't gone up but the PC price has, and DA2 on PC started out selling at $50 but then went up to $60?

Products have price points.  If companies can get away by pushing them up, especially by giving you less for your money (as they are also doing with DA2), then they're going to do it.  A couple games pushed the price point up and still sold, so now more game makers are going to try to do the same.  So it's not just "10 bucks."  It's giving EA a market signal that will affect other PC game prices, too.

If you don't care or you're on console anyway, why are you even posting in this thread?

You do realize why its going up right?

They are about to release the next gen consoles, and their games will cost 70 dollars, it happens every time they're about to release a new console


Is it really that hard to see?

[BoogieManFL]

I'm sure the game will be good, I hope it's great, but if their is one thing I've learned about DLC for DA:O and ME2 - most of them are NOT worth how much they cost.

 I'm alright with the game costing 60 bucks if they release quality DLC with a reasonable cost. And maybe some for free without having to order special editions and the like.

Modifié par BoogieManFL, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:48 .

[kayangelus]

If you don't care or you're on console anyway, why are you even posting in this thread?

Because it is painful to see people who don't understand capitalism trying to discuss how something should be priced?

Bioware and EA are not a non-profit organization people. They will sell the game at whatever price they think will get them the most money.  If people are buying it (and they are making a profit), than it is not over priced. 

If you don't like the increase in PC game pricing, there is really only one way to inform the companies; talk with your wallet. By cheaper games, and don't buy more expensive games. If you already bought the game and are complaining, it isn't like they are going to hear you.

Now, me, personally I believe DA2 will be worth $60. So I bought the signature edition for $60. Other games, I tend to wait until they go on sale to buy them, because I don't think they are worth full price.

Modifié par kayangelus, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:39 .

[Jon Jern_]

Don't blame Bioware guys! Blame those pesky console gamers! Haha. Haha. I'm so funny.

[TwistedComplex]

Avatar costs 54 dollars on blu-ray. Lasts 2 hours

Dragon Age 2 costs 60 dollars, probably lasts 40+ hours not counting replays

I really don't see the problem here

Modifié par TwistedComplex, 13 janvier 2011 - 12:47 .

[Kilshrek]

TwistedComplex wrote...

*pic*

I prefer Troll Face myself, but mostly because of the grin.

Anyway I was trying to say that Australians would gladly buy a new release PC game for $60, for $50? Damn sure we would. That would be almost 1/2 of what we pay these days. That is assuming you just go to your local shop and buy off the shelf.

I don't get the vitriol over $60 for the game.

[kayangelus]

TwistedComplex wrote...

Avatar costs 32 dollars on blu-ray. Lasts 2 hours

Dragon Age 2 costs 60 dollars, probably lasts 40+ hours not counting replays

I really don't see the problem here

It is less than half as long as Origins?

[TwistedComplex]

kayangelus wrote...

TwistedComplex wrote...

Avatar costs 32 dollars on blu-ray. Lasts 2 hours

Dragon Age 2 costs 60 dollars, probably lasts 40+ hours not counting replays

I really don't see the problem here

It is less than half as long as Origins?

You know what i mean

[Le_Saboteur]

Wow, I had no idea how inexpensive video games are in other parts of the world. Standard large release video game here (in New Zealand) is $120 for console, about $110 for PC. Usually.



Damn.