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[PsychoBlonde]

Evard's Violet Tentacles of Forced Intrusion.

[errant_knight]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think Flemeth would save Hawke's rear if there was nothing special about Hawke and/or their family. That's not the same as being the chosen one. The Warden was also special.

Well, not really. The warden was accomplished and could be unusually persuasive, but you could play the warden as a normal person rising to the occasion, although the game included more butt-kissing than I would have prefered. Flemeth saved them because the PC and Alistair were the last two wardens in Ferelden and she needed a warden baby, not because the PC was special. As to what Flemeth has to do with Hawke, can't comment on that. Sounds like you know spoilers that I don't want to. In any case, special powers isn't a plus for me. Whatever Flemeth does, I hope it's caused by something situational as was her rescue in DA:O, not my some inate quality of Hawke or special power.

[Shepard Lives]

I'd prefer Hawke to have some kind of special power, even a small one (being a mage is sufficient, actually) because in DAO it always kind of broke my suspension of disbelief how a completely random dwarf peasant could defeat armies of trained mercenaries and superpowered monsters.
I'm fine with the exceptional persuasiveness, cunning and/or sex appeal, but the Warden's combat skills were always in need of an explanation for me. Some origins more than others.

The Human Noble descends from a family of barbarian warlords and veritable badasses and was trained for combat since s/he was born.

The City Elf's mother is implied to descend from some kind of elf big shot from Andraste's time, maybe Shartan.

The Dwarf Noble doesn't have as many justifications, but it's likely the combat training they received was above average.

The mages are... well, mages. PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER.

But the Dalish and Casteless origins were always leaving me a touch slack-jawed. I know this kind of thing happens in 99% of RPGs, and it's obviously a case of gameplay-story segregation, but it still vaguely bothered me.

Anyway, first playthrough for me will be a mage so I gues this'll be a non-issue, at least until I get to my female two-hander.

Modifié par Shepard Lives, 13 janvier 2011 - 06:20 .

[The Elder King]

Shepard Lives wrote...

I'd prefer Hawke to have some kind of special power, even a small one (being a mage is sufficient, actually) because in DAO it always kind of broke my suspension of disbelief how a completely random dwarf peasant could defeat armies of trained mercenaries and superpowered monsters.
I'm fine with the exceptional persuasiveness, cunning and/or sex appeal, but the Warden's combat skills were always in need of an explanation for me. Some origins more than others.

The Human Noble descends from a family of barbarian warlords and veritable badasses and was trained for combat since s/he was born.

The City Elf's mother is implied to descend from some kind of elf big shot from Andraste's time, maybe Shartan.

The Dwarf Noble doesn't have as many justifications, but it's likely the combat training they received was above average.

The mages are... well, mages. PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER.

But the Dalish and Casteless origins were always leaving me a touch slack-jawed. I know this kind of thing happens in 99% of RPGs, and it's obviously a case of gameplay-story segregation, but it still vaguely bothered me.

Anyway, first playthrough for me will be a mage so I gues this'll be a non-issue, at least until I get to my female two-hander.

Dalish are famous to be deadly archers. THe Dalish Warden is probably a skilled hunter. Plus, you are son/daughter of the previous clan's Keeper. The dalish say that the Keeper generally descend from the Dales's most noble family.

[Legion 2.5]

It's his beard

[DarthCaine]

Legion 2.5 wrote...

It's his beard

[Kimarous]

hhh89 wrote...

Shepard Lives wrote...

*snip*

But the Dalish and Casteless origins were always leaving me a touch slack-jawed. I know this kind of thing happens in 99% of RPGs, and it's obviously a case of gameplay-story segregation, but it still vaguely bothered me.

Anyway, first playthrough for me will be a mage so I gues this'll be a non-issue, at least until I get to my female two-hander.

Dalish are famous to be deadly archers. THe Dalish Warden is probably a skilled hunter. Plus, you are son/daughter of the previous clan's Keeper. The dalish say that the Keeper generally descend from the Dales's most noble family.

As for the Casteless, we don't know WHY the line is casteless...

[Stanley Woo]

Trintrin86 wrote...

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's the Dance Fighting skill tree, which, of course, includes Jazz Hands. Of course, Shuffle-Step-Kick-Ball-Change is an AoE ability...

What? No grande jete' in that talent tree??? Bioware is totally excludeing ballet in favor of tap/jazz! It's a conspiricy I says!

Trintrin Disapproves -50

Feh, you just haven't seen the pas de deux cross-dance combo in action.

[Relansa]

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's the Dance Fighting skill tree, which, of course, includes Jazz Hands. Of course, Shuffle-Step-Kick-Ball-Change is an AoE ability...

But Stanely...  'Stuffle Step Kick Ball Change' only attacks to the front of you...    Hehehheehe

[errant_knight]

Shepard Lives wrote...

I'd prefer Hawke to have some kind of special power, even a small one (being a mage is sufficient, actually) because in DAO it always kind of broke my suspension of disbelief how a completely random dwarf peasant could defeat armies of trained mercenaries and superpowered monsters.
I'm fine with the exceptional persuasiveness, cunning and/or sex appeal, but the Warden's combat skills were always in need of an explanation for me. Some origins more than others.

The Human Noble descends from a family of barbarian warlords and veritable badasses and was trained for combat since s/he was born.

The City Elf's mother is implied to descend from some kind of elf big shot from Andraste's time, maybe Shartan.

The Dwarf Noble doesn't have as many justifications, but it's likely the combat training they received was above average.

The mages are... well, mages. PHENOMENAL COSMIC POWER.

But the Dalish and Casteless origins were always leaving me a touch slack-jawed. I know this kind of thing happens in 99% of RPGs, and it's obviously a case of gameplay-story segregation, but it still vaguely bothered me.

Anyway, first playthrough for me will be a mage so I gues this'll be a non-issue, at least until I get to my female two-hander.

Hmmm.... I see your point. Since I almost always play a Cousland, I hadn't really thought about this. Still, having training isn't so much a special power and having a background that makes battle prowess believable. I think that can be done without making Hawke uniquely powered.

[SDNcN]

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think Flemeth would save Hawke's rear if there was nothing special about Hawke and/or their family. That's not the same as being the chosen one. The Warden was also special.

Considering how old she is Flemeth probably knew Hawke's ancestor Parthalan

[slimgrin]

His 'special' power? This ones too easy...

[Relansa]

SDNcN wrote...

Maria Caliban wrote...

Hate to say it, but I don't think Flemeth would save Hawke's rear if there was nothing special about Hawke and/or their family. That's not the same as being the chosen one. The Warden was also special.

Considering how old she is Flemeth probably knew Hawke's ancestor Parthalan

And all this is giving me horribly evil ideas for when my best friend and I bite into the game and can start our own IRC rp on the subject after we learn more about the chars... 

[William91]

He can turn water into wine! Oh...that was another guy no?

[lv12medic]

Hawke has the special ability to do the Hawke-achunka.

Please don't call the pun police. 

[quantumraider]

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's the Dance Fighting skill tree, which, of course, includes Jazz Hands. Of course, Shuffle-Step-Kick-Ball-Change is an AoE ability...

Shuffle-Step-Kick-Ball-Change may work on male enemies, for females I suggest Shuffle-Step-Trash-New-Hairdo-Change

or perhaps Shuffle-Step-Laugh-At-New-Shoes-Change

[Phoenix_Loftian]

Hawke becoming a hero out of 'necessity' or 'circumstance' is just Origins all over again.

[Dr. wonderful]

Hawke ability:



Rogue: Appears to be everyone friend, his special powers? His tougue.

Warrior: Hawke special ability to kill faster and faster.

Mage: Summon spells FTW.

[Eveangaline]

I'd like for hawkes special ability to be...the ability to get credit for crap they didn't do. You have the option of hiding while kirkwall is attacked, and it just happens a warrior that looks a lot like you did the work, then when they battle the final boss, they're both almost dead, the warrior loses, and Hawke steps in to take out the last 1hp of the final bosses health.

[crimzontearz]

well

ok I'll tell you.....

Isabela says that that Hawke's special power can only be seen in the bedroom, apparently last time they were....ermmmm....intimate Hawke made Isabela shout out obscenities in fluent Orlesian she passed out from sheer bliss.....the only problem is that Isabela does NOT know any orlesian whatsoever 

yes Hawke is THAT awesome
 

[JamesX]

Phoenix_Loftian wrote...

Hawke becoming a hero out of 'necessity' or 'circumstance' is just Origins all over again.

It is more like 90% of RPGs in history.

[drahelvete]

JamesX wrote...

Phoenix_Loftian wrote...

Hawke becoming a hero out of 'necessity' or 'circumstance' is just Origins all over again.

It is more like 90% of RPGs in history.

Chosen by Destiny has to account for at least 25%. Probably more.

[MKDAWUSS]

William91 wrote...

He can turn water into wine! Oh...that was another guy no?

He plans on filling Lake Calenhad with Orlesian Merlot

[Demx]

Stanley Woo wrote...

It's the Dance Fighting skill tree, which, of course, includes Jazz Hands. Of course, Shuffle-Step-Kick-Ball-Change is an AoE ability...

I'm assuming Spirit Fingers is still achievable in the Dance Fighting skill tree? Though I wouldn't mind  using River Dance as a sustained ability.

[Dellingr]

Hawke? you mean that human attached the beard we play as? well I guess having an attached human for transport counts as a special power for a beard