This is a tough one, because I thought they did a good job of designing outfits in ME2. And I love Samara's design, for instance. But I wouldn't mind if they leaned toward more practical outfits in ME3, as it does strain credulity to see Jack dressed like she's ready to go clubbing while fighting the collectors.
Dislike the sexual outfits in ME2?
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#102
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 02:46
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Lumikki wrote...
Having sexy casual cloths is okey in my opinion. How ever, having them in combat situation isn't really that good. It's more realistic if people use right gear in right situation. So, I support situation based cloths.
Think same way here.
#103
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 02:51
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InvaderErl wrote...
davidshooter wrote...
the sexuality in ME2 was at the level of two 10 year old boys snickering in the corner because they just heard the word "boobies"
Oh so when ME1 lets you oggle strippers and have meaningless sex with Asari hookers its in context. I'm not complaining about the presence or existence of those characters but the interactivity is clearly meant to titilliate.
Listen, I'm not saying ME2 is guiltless, I don't like the stripper oggling or Samara's cleavage or the DAT ASS shot but ME1 wasn't any more innocent in this regard, they both have moments where the sexuality is juvenile.
Yeah, I think I agree with you - although the strip joints don't bother me in either game because that's what they're kinda like in real life. What gets me is when they seem to be looking for any excuse to shoehorn sex into the game where it is out of place or in the case of Samara almost contrary to her backstory. When they do these things it doesn't come off as sexy it comes off as silly pre-teen giggling.
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#104
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 02:53
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I don't mind the club's existence or the dancers and visually I like them as background figures, it's more so the PRESS A to look at their ass or ******.
#105
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:03
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Indeed, if ME3 doesn't have an Asari strip club, I'll be disappointed. Best animations in the game...
I guess as others have said, situational clothing is best. If they do that, I'll be shocked though.
I guess as others have said, situational clothing is best. If they do that, I'll be shocked though.
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#106
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:06
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I can understand people wanting "realism" with the outfits. But seriously? People are that uptight over seeing Miranda's ass?
There's things in the game for everyone. Just because you don't appreciate Miranda's backside doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Calling it juvenile is pretty judgmental, especially if you don't consider the context. Some of them aren't blatant, its just that Miranda turns around. Some of them are blatant, like when she bends over. And yet... if you pay attention to Miranda, she's supposed to be that way. Why? She's the "perfect woman" - an operative. She's gonna use her looks as a weapon.
Likewise, Samara. Asari Justicar. They are a sensual people, let's face it. It makes sense that the paragon of Asari Culture looks both deadly and "sexy" (though I'd argue that Samara's face is just meh... but I'm not a fan of Asari) - it just makes sense.
Jack? The tats I get, the bald I get, and the spare clothing I get. She's a convict, a crazy woman, a homicidal ****, and let's face it... not the best self esteem. What I'd like to know is how she gets makeup/lipstick when she's being held in cryo for all that time lol.
If you notice, the "sexuality" makes sense. We don't see Tali flaunting it. Hell, even Samara, with her boobs, doesn't "flaunt" it, they just "are." Hell, even in ME1 with the Matriarch. Yeah. Big rack. And? Who gives a crap? If anything, she looks more intimidating because of it, I think if she was fully covered up, she'd look less villainy.
Skin is skin. People need to grow up, and appreciate that the human body is not taboo. Is it annoying when people giggle like 5 year olds when they see a boob? Sure. But its also annoying (to me at least) at people being offended at them showing what every single person has. Private parts are only called private parts because someone decided they had a mandate to tell people what's decent/indecent.
Miranda uses her sensuality as a weapon, and at the same time, an ass is just another body part. Who cares if they show it?
There's things in the game for everyone. Just because you don't appreciate Miranda's backside doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Calling it juvenile is pretty judgmental, especially if you don't consider the context. Some of them aren't blatant, its just that Miranda turns around. Some of them are blatant, like when she bends over. And yet... if you pay attention to Miranda, she's supposed to be that way. Why? She's the "perfect woman" - an operative. She's gonna use her looks as a weapon.
Likewise, Samara. Asari Justicar. They are a sensual people, let's face it. It makes sense that the paragon of Asari Culture looks both deadly and "sexy" (though I'd argue that Samara's face is just meh... but I'm not a fan of Asari) - it just makes sense.
Jack? The tats I get, the bald I get, and the spare clothing I get. She's a convict, a crazy woman, a homicidal ****, and let's face it... not the best self esteem. What I'd like to know is how she gets makeup/lipstick when she's being held in cryo for all that time lol.
If you notice, the "sexuality" makes sense. We don't see Tali flaunting it. Hell, even Samara, with her boobs, doesn't "flaunt" it, they just "are." Hell, even in ME1 with the Matriarch. Yeah. Big rack. And? Who gives a crap? If anything, she looks more intimidating because of it, I think if she was fully covered up, she'd look less villainy.
Skin is skin. People need to grow up, and appreciate that the human body is not taboo. Is it annoying when people giggle like 5 year olds when they see a boob? Sure. But its also annoying (to me at least) at people being offended at them showing what every single person has. Private parts are only called private parts because someone decided they had a mandate to tell people what's decent/indecent.
Miranda uses her sensuality as a weapon, and at the same time, an ass is just another body part. Who cares if they show it?
#107
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:12
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Just a few complaints that I disagree with in this thread.
1. The squad mates were never exposed to the vacuum of space.(Collector ship was just that a ship, Collector base was still a space station of sorts)
2.Just because there wasn't adequate oxygen in a particular location, doesn't make the air toxic to the skin or body.
3. You hardly ever see Asari in armour (except the Asari spectre), even the Asari commandoes from ME1 didn't have armour on. And Jack, .. well you actually think armour fits with her personality.
4. Miranda's outfit .....well, ....well would you look at the time. :innocent:
1. The squad mates were never exposed to the vacuum of space.(Collector ship was just that a ship, Collector base was still a space station of sorts)
2.Just because there wasn't adequate oxygen in a particular location, doesn't make the air toxic to the skin or body.
3. You hardly ever see Asari in armour (except the Asari spectre), even the Asari commandoes from ME1 didn't have armour on. And Jack, .. well you actually think armour fits with her personality.
4. Miranda's outfit .....well, ....well would you look at the time. :innocent:
#108
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:17
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trucoolbrees wrote...
1. The squad mates were never exposed to the vacuum of space.(Collector ship was just that a ship, Collector base was still a space station of sorts)
2.Just because there wasn't adequate oxygen in a particular location, doesn't make the air toxic to the skin or body.
1. Heretic Station ("Geth require neither"), not sure about the infected VI space station
2. A few UNC missions; like the Geth atmospheric device planet or the Blood Pack mining planet.
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#109
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:21
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I just don't find wearing freaking high-heels during a battle to be practical.
#110
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:26
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I never did like obviously sexy outfits. People that are truly hot don't need to emphasize or display that fact. It somehow cheapens it. Strippers and high class hookers can display the sexy for alll they are worth, but not someone in a command position.
Edit: Just for the record, I would take the sweet understated Kaidan over Jacob and those abs any day of the week.
Edit: Just for the record, I would take the sweet understated Kaidan over Jacob and those abs any day of the week.
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Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:29
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Rykoth wrote...
Miranda uses her sensuality as a weapon, and at the same time, an ass is just another body part. Who cares if they show it?
Because she is not stupid enough to use her sensuality as a weapon against those on whom it is obviously not going to work?
Think about it this way. A PC is attracted to Miranda. She realizes the allure she has for you. The camera lingers lovingly on the lavish contours of her body probably implying that she is showing off her physical perfection for that PC. That showcases both the fact that Miranda is a smecks BOMB and the fact that she knows when to use it.
In the case of a PC romancing someone else, especially a female PC romancing a dude, it seems kind of baffling that she would bend over and stuff for you. All it makes me think is not that Miranda uses smecks as a weapon but the Bioware team liked what they did with Miranda SO MUCH that they wanted everyone to see it whether it made sense or not. Which is fine I suppose. I have not objected to it, I have not even complained about it, all I have stated is that I thought it was weird that a woman would behave like that with everybody no matter how hot she is.
But hey, their call, their game.
#112
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:30
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Rykoth wrote...
There's things in the game for everyone. Just because you don't appreciate Miranda's backside doesn't mean someone else doesn't. Calling it juvenile is pretty judgmental, especially if you don't consider the context. Some of them aren't blatant, its just that Miranda turns around. Some of them are blatant, like when she bends over. And yet... if you pay attention to Miranda, she's supposed to be that way. Why? She's the "perfect woman" - an operative. She's gonna use her looks as a weapon.
Perhaps "Ass" and "Rack" could be bonus powers in ME3 and we could level them up.
#113
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:32
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I quite like the sexy armour in ME2, I very much do.
But I don't like how some characters walk around with naked boobs or without helmets in outer space or in the atmosphere of a brown dwarf or the hazardous environment of some worlds, that's just ridiculous.
Besides, I actually find many of the bodysuit / armor outfits that are worn by ME1 characters and Shepard to be pretty sexy already. The devs could add some more sexyness to those without revealing skin easily imo.
So I hope they do that in ME3.
But I don't like how some characters walk around with naked boobs or without helmets in outer space or in the atmosphere of a brown dwarf or the hazardous environment of some worlds, that's just ridiculous.
Besides, I actually find many of the bodysuit / armor outfits that are worn by ME1 characters and Shepard to be pretty sexy already. The devs could add some more sexyness to those without revealing skin easily imo.
So I hope they do that in ME3.
#114
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:35
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I hope Liara's outfit changes in the latest DLC is a sign of what Bioware will do in ME3:
Practical armor on missions
Whatever suits the character at the home base or a city
Practical armor on missions
Whatever suits the character at the home base or a city
#115
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:36
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Seeing BW take more and more sexual approaches to ME feels like a huge middle finger to FOX.
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Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:44
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Heh, I didn't know OP's could declare discussion over. Most people want there threads to go on for as long as possible...
I don't know what more I could add: The outfits were a good touch! And it some ways, gameplay wise, it was a good idea. We had less time to get to know each individual squadmember in ME2, because there were so many of them, that they each need to sortof, "get the introductions out of the way," by using a visual introduction to give you a lot of information about the character, even before you had your first conversation with them.
But... The same thing could be done by designing two appearences: a casual, on ship appearance, and a unique armor set for combat situations. There isn't any need for everyone to look exactly the same in armor: obviously Thane is probably going to wear armor that looks even lighter than the standard light armor. And think about it, Zaeed has some pretty unique looking armor. Even if they just modified design elements from the various N7 pieces and slapped em together to give each squaddie a unique look, I would've been happy.
Also, now that we aren't given our squaddies new armor to put on, you can keep characterizing them/differentiating them with colors. Remember Ash's iconic white/pink armor that you replaced right away in ME1? Well now it's back---I mean, they even did this in ME2 by putting her back in her armor.
What's more, some characters have a casual outfit already, i.e. Garrus.
I understand that designing a casual and a battle look is twice as much work, but that hardly seems like an excuse for returning squadmates in ME3. The casual outfit is already designed. Just whip up one more appearance for each character where they look a bit harder to kill.
I don't know what more I could add: The outfits were a good touch! And it some ways, gameplay wise, it was a good idea. We had less time to get to know each individual squadmember in ME2, because there were so many of them, that they each need to sortof, "get the introductions out of the way," by using a visual introduction to give you a lot of information about the character, even before you had your first conversation with them.
But... The same thing could be done by designing two appearences: a casual, on ship appearance, and a unique armor set for combat situations. There isn't any need for everyone to look exactly the same in armor: obviously Thane is probably going to wear armor that looks even lighter than the standard light armor. And think about it, Zaeed has some pretty unique looking armor. Even if they just modified design elements from the various N7 pieces and slapped em together to give each squaddie a unique look, I would've been happy.
Also, now that we aren't given our squaddies new armor to put on, you can keep characterizing them/differentiating them with colors. Remember Ash's iconic white/pink armor that you replaced right away in ME1? Well now it's back---I mean, they even did this in ME2 by putting her back in her armor.
What's more, some characters have a casual outfit already, i.e. Garrus.
I understand that designing a casual and a battle look is twice as much work, but that hardly seems like an excuse for returning squadmates in ME3. The casual outfit is already designed. Just whip up one more appearance for each character where they look a bit harder to kill.
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#117
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 03:56
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Uszi wrote...
Also, now that we aren't given our squaddies new armor to put on, you can keep characterizing them/differentiating them with colors.
Go Go Power Rangers!
#118
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:00
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I think the outfits are fine on board the ship or at port like on the Citadel. It only bothers me when they are away on missions, like the suicide mission. You'd think they'd be geared up.
#119
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:01
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My only complaint was that Jacob's outfit had a giant **** on it. Aside from that, I just pretened all material is super dense kevlar and all exposed skin is covered by invisible kinetic barriers.
#120
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:03
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Uszi wrote...
Heh, I didn't know OP's could declare discussion over. Most people want there threads to go on for as long as possible...
LMFAO, I had no idea what you were talking about cause I didn't see the modified OP until just now. Can't say I've ever seen anything quite like that on these boards.
#121
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:21
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Pwner1323 wrote...
Seeing BW take more and more sexual approaches to ME feels like a huge middle finger to FOX.
But they toned down the sex scenes.
#122
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:22
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I think the outfits are too sexualised. Call me a prude for thinking so, I don't consider a desire for classy clothing and to earn the nudity over ****ty clothing and objectivication of women in order to sell games to horny teens a bad thing. Being prudish should not be the object of ridicule, and I don't find having a pixellated butt shoved in my face high quality entertainment. The irony that in a 'free' society we are not free to be prudish or act in certain ways amuses me.
Then again, maybe I'm just weird. I find women wearing proper, realistic armour as more sexy than those stupid bikini outfits, and like strong women.
Then again, maybe I'm just weird. I find women wearing proper, realistic armour as more sexy than those stupid bikini outfits, and like strong women.
#123
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:29
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sinosleep wrote...
Uszi wrote...
Heh, I didn't know OP's could declare discussion over. Most people want there threads to go on for as long as possible...
LMFAO, I had no idea what you were talking about cause I didn't see the modified OP until just now. Can't say I've ever seen anything quite like that on these boards.
The OPs name is Sten, are you going to argue with Sten?
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#124
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:32
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LadyJaneGrey wrote...
I hope Liara's outfit changes in the latest DLC is a sign of what Bioware will do in ME3:
Practical armor on missions
Whatever suits the character at the home base or a city
I second this opinion.
#125
Posté 13 janvier 2011 - 04:33
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Tonymac wrote...
LadyJaneGrey wrote...
I hope Liara's outfit changes in the latest DLC is a sign of what Bioware will do in ME3:
Practical armor on missions
Whatever suits the character at the home base or a city
I second this opinion.
Thirded.
